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Post by guido2 on Oct 8, 2018 14:28:51 GMT -5
Sorry, I don't understand your post/point, please clarify it. The NRA boogieman and Israel being blamed as the biggest influences by too many. Unions will always be bigger. If the NRA and Israel are considered to be a serious problem. Lord help us with the likes of the Koch Brothers and Bloomberg and that ilk.
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Post by Ranger John on Oct 8, 2018 16:49:28 GMT -5
Historically they certainly have been. But the GOP has done a pretty good job of cutting off their money, by freeing their members from them, so I don't think it will continue indefinately. I would very much like this to be true. Please supply a credible link in support of your claim. Actually, if you follow the link in MOTR's post to opensectets.org, and compare the 2018 cycle to the historically largest donors, you'll see the current donors are a mix of special interest groups with a couple of unions thrown in. The largest donors historically were dominated by unions.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 18:59:41 GMT -5
I don't believe that your government will ever act in the best interests of its people until ALL 'donations', back-handers, bribes and bungs are stopped. I only pointed out the two in question because they are the largest ones. From the mouth of babe's ….you smacked that nail square on. Since I retired a few years back I finally got a chance to focus on 'what is going on' in our Federal and State gooberment. And as a good citizen I tried to get involved at a number of levels and pay attention. And make my voice heard. And here is what I discovered....if you are the unwashed peons...you were only good for your vote. That's it. They will do what they please, when they please if they please. If you have $$$$$ they will suck up to you in a heartbeat. Oh and I said 'were' for a reason. Since the Trump Electoral College theft, and the latest with Kav....frankly your VOTE doesn't mean shxt...since they have shown that what we thought was 'truth, justice and the American Way' is just another image...another farce...a joke. At least I have and I hope others realize this whole 'for the people' thing is sham. We as US citizens have been living in a governmental version of Disney World...where you think 'all your dreams will come true' with hard work. BS. I think about the movie Matrix....as far as 'they' are concerned we are the money 'batteries' nothing more. Maybe that was the real symbolism in the movie. And you saw what happened at the end. The "Trump Electoral College theft"... a Presidential election conducted IAW the terms of the Constitution "The latest with Kav"...a Supreme Court Justice nominee confirmed as a Justice IAW the Constitution. I guess I better order another fainting couch. And by the way, I worked hard and most of my dreams have come true. I'll retire on 6 figures in a few weeks. I own two cars, the oldest of which is barely three years old. I have a 2,700 SF house, a wooded lot and a wonderful grandchild who will, all things being equal, carry my father's line into the future. So much for your BS.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 16:57:12 GMT -5
Oh good Lord. Just start the process to impeach Kavanaugh. Got to wait a bit longer till after November. I am willing to bet if 'we the people' could bypass the 'process' as the GOP seems to have at ever turn. And start one on our own it would have already started and the one for Trump would have already been well underway. IMO. I doubt it. What, specifically, would you charge Kavanaugh with for impeachment? What has he done, since assuming his seat, to warrant impeachment? Same with Trump. The fact that we didn't want a treasonous criminal as President is not a reason to impeach the one that was elected. So, what "high crimes and misdemeanors" would you charge Trump with?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 16:59:07 GMT -5
I can't help but wonder if your repeated comments like that, now escalated to wishing for death by gun, qualify for Maryland's new Red Flag gun laws. Well not possible on three counts. - I was talking about Donald Duck - The application of the law is narrow and applies only to spouse, immediate family, people that are dating. - Lastly, I am not threating Donald Duck. If Mr. Duck pulls the trigger by his own volition. How can I or anyone else be accused if being a potential threat. Fortunately, we are not to the stage of Nazi like 'thought police' at the moment. But I imagine anything is possible in the age of Trump. Where real news is fake news, where lawyers declare truths as untruths or truths or or or. But it's not because your masters in the DemoNAZI Party haven't been trying. If they retake the House, watch for bills outlawing any criticism of fascism, Socialism, or NAZIism to start coming out. Along with victim disarmament nonsense.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 17:00:12 GMT -5
I wish our republican citizens would wake up one day and realize what they’re doing to this country. I don’t get their motivations. They still haven't recovered from the fact we elected a black man as President ......twice! It made them bat sheet crazy. Remember the Tea Baggers? This latest nuttiness is just a morphing from that. You mean the Muslim Communist? Who would now be sharing a cell with The Felon if he hadn't corrupted the FBI and DOJ to the point that they are now the STAZI?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 17:02:01 GMT -5
He was half white... ya know! Yeah but it was the black half that sent the right wingers going nuts. No, it was the fascist agenda. Remember, it was the NAZIs that trotted out the prostitutes to derail Cain, tried it with Thomas, and are now going after Kanye. The Party of the KKK is showing it hasn't changed since the 1860's.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 17:03:34 GMT -5
Are you really happy to have a politically leaning (either way) judiciary? It is something that I am not akin to, and I very much hope that I never will be during my lifetime. I feel safer given the history of the SCOTUS. It might be that apparent over where you are (maybe it is, I don't know), but SCOTUS justices often surprise those who appoint them and those who think they will rule in a certain way. I do not believe that Kavanaugh will be an activist justice. I think he will adhere closer to the U.S. Constitution as it was intended, and that robust debate will ensue among the justices in each and every case.Although some will think it sexist and ageist, I really do think that RBG is too old and in diminished capacity now. I also believe she is hanging in there for partisan reasons. Thurgood Marshall, in his later days and diminished capacity, was a shell of who and what he was earlier during his SCOTUS tenure. I felt the same way about President Reagan in his second term as president. hat's what scares the bejeebus out of the fascists. They can't get their agenda imposed if they don't have a judiciary that will legislate from the bench.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 17:05:56 GMT -5
I didn't say that some of them aren't crooked, but they cannot be bought by the likes of the NRA, AIPAC, Big Pharma and so on because, there are strict limits on political party funding. and those lobbies also have no way of ousting an MP that wont play their game. In the main MP's do act on behalf of their constituents, failure to do so will get them booted out at the next by-election or general election. Bingo. You haven't normalized political crime like we have. Having a homogenous population makes doing that a lot tougher. People are more likely there to see through a con game and less likely to buy a bucket of drivel. Here we have republicans though whose only talent is tearing things down then muddying the waters with drivel. No, they have entrenched, generational political crime.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 17:09:08 GMT -5
Do you have a credible link for this?
These folks disagree: linkThe NRA has been (relatively) cheap: link No, I don't and I stand corrected. Let me say that I posted those two examples because IMO they are the highest profile bribers. Thank you for the links, you have shown me that the corruption is even worse than I was aware of. The NRA is not even in the top 50 for donations. It's only the "highest profile" because the Left can't force through their agenda if the population is armed. They want everyone helpless so their brown shirts can intimidate them easier.
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Post by WKDWZD on Oct 12, 2018 17:10:56 GMT -5
No, I don't and I stand corrected. Let me say that I posted those two examples because IMO they are the highest profile bribers. Thank you for the links, you have shown me that the corruption is even worse than I was aware of. The NRA is not even in the top 50 for donations. It's only the "highest profile" because the Left can't force through their agenda if the population is armed. They want everyone helpless so their brown shirts can intimidate them easier. Idiot!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 17:13:23 GMT -5
Is your issue with organizational donation or just these two, which, coincidentally I’m sure, are organizations typically associated more with conservative candidates than liberal candidates? Organizational donation should be banned, but ALL organizational donation; labor unions AND corporations, planned Parenthood and the NRA. I don't believe that your government will ever act in the best interests of its people until ALL 'donations', back-handers, bribes and bungs are stopped. I only pointed out the two in question because they are the largest ones. Here's the problem with your suggestion. 1, that leaves the government itself in control of who get's elected, because they will control all the funds for all the candidates. 2. Every citizen is a "special interest", and your idea would cut off all contact between the representatives and Senators and their constituents. 3. The money would still flow in, it would just be hidden in bills, regulations, and "secret" donations.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 17:15:17 GMT -5
Yeah but it was the black half that sent the right wingers going nuts. No, it was the fascist agenda. Remember, it was the NAZIs that trotted out the prostitutes to derail Cain, tried it with Thomas, and are now going after Kanye. The Party of the KKK is showing it hasn't changed since the 1860's. Herman "The Serial Groper" Cain ?? Those 4 women weren't prostitutes. They wer employees
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 17:17:00 GMT -5
The NRA is not even in the top 50 for donations. It's only the "highest profile" because the Left can't force through their agenda if the population is armed. They want everyone helpless so their brown shirts can intimidate them easier. Idiot! Nope. The NRA has become a flash point for the Left, because they haven't been able to disarm the public through legislation. They want to put pressure on their fellow travelers in Congress to ignore the Constitution, and make sure that no one but themselves are armed. Blaming the NRA for every Leftist that goes bezerk, and shoots up a night club, school, or office is just part of the propaganda. The NRA has nothing at all to do with any of the shootings they are being blamed for, but the Goebbels media simply regurgitates the lies and calumny coming from the fascists.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 17:18:36 GMT -5
No, it was the fascist agenda. Remember, it was the NAZIs that trotted out the prostitutes to derail Cain, tried it with Thomas, and are now going after Kanye. The Party of the KKK is showing it hasn't changed since the 1860's. Herman "The Serial Groper" Cain ?? Those 4 women weren't prostitutes. They wer employees Who never had a problem with him until the new NAZI Party "encouraged" them to make fake accusations. Where are any of them today? How many of them filed charges? Even made police reports? Even told their friends about it? Just more Fords, used to derail a campaign of a black man, then thrown away.
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Post by WKDWZD on Oct 12, 2018 17:25:02 GMT -5
Nope. The NRA has become a flash point for the Left, because they haven't been able to disarm the public through legislation. They want to put pressure on their fellow travelers in Congress to ignore the Constitution, and make sure that no one but themselves are armed. Blaming the NRA for every Leftist that goes bezerk, and shoots up a night club, school, or office is just part of the propaganda. The NRA has nothing at all to do with any of the shootings they are being blamed for, but the Goebbels media simply regurgitates the lies and calumny coming from the fascists. Yep! You are one sad, demented, sick puppy.
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Post by guido2 on Oct 12, 2018 18:49:23 GMT -5
Yeah but it was the black half that sent the right wingers going nuts. No, it was the fascist agenda. Remember, it was the NAZIs that trotted out the prostitutes to derail Cain, tried it with Thomas, and are now going after Kanye. The Party of the KKK is showing it hasn't changed since the 1860's. Red ...you do realize we all could save a lot of storage, bandwidth and processing power if you eleminated' facists (and variations there of), illogical references to Nazi's and The KKK party....which I have still no figured out. Good news my magic decoder ring should arrive soon.
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Post by guido2 on Oct 12, 2018 18:50:12 GMT -5
Nope. The NRA has become a flash point for the Left, because they haven't been able to disarm the public through legislation. They want to put pressure on their fellow travelers in Congress to ignore the Constitution, and make sure that no one but themselves are armed. Blaming the NRA for every Leftist that goes bezerk, and shoots up a night club, school, or office is just part of the propaganda. The NRA has nothing at all to do with any of the shootings they are being blamed for, but the Goebbels media simply regurgitates the lies and calumny coming from the fascists. Yep! You are one sad, demented, sick puppy. 👍
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 19:37:11 GMT -5
Yep! You are one sad, demented, sick puppy. 👍 Really? I'm not the one that's terrified of my fellow citizens, to the point that I want only the government to be armed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 19:40:23 GMT -5
No, it was the fascist agenda. Remember, it was the NAZIs that trotted out the prostitutes to derail Cain, tried it with Thomas, and are now going after Kanye. The Party of the KKK is showing it hasn't changed since the 1860's. Red ...you do realize we all could save a lot of storage, bandwidth and processing power if you eleminated' facists (and variations there of), illogical references to Nazi's and The KKK party....which I have still no figured out. Good news my magic decoder ring should arrive soon. Let me help you out. The Democrats are the Party of the KKK. They birthed them, financed them, and peopled them. They still do. However, now that the KKK is no longer a threat to much of anyone but themselves, they have turned to fascism, and birthed antifa, to be the brown shirts that the KKK used to be. Facism and NAZIism are essentially the same thing. The difference is in tactics, not final solutions. Therefore, the Democrats have become the new NAZI Party. Of course, they always did have an affinity for NAZIs.
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Post by guido2 on Oct 13, 2018 8:33:44 GMT -5
Really? I'm not the one that's terrified of my fellow citizens, to the point that I want only the government to be armed. Just goes to show prove you have no clue about me at all. I am and NRA instructor, have used firearms for years, was a cop, I am pro-2nd and pro CCW. The last thing I want is that the only people that can have firepower is the goooberment, the representatives with armed guards etc. Both state an local. Further, to me it is the height of hypocrisy when guys like Bloomberg (fat cats and actors) do everything they can to take your way of self defense away ...YET...always have armed guards around them. Am I terrified concerned about thugs that are not fellow citizens...yup. Big difference. So you are definitely barking up the wrong tree.
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Post by guido2 on Oct 13, 2018 8:39:26 GMT -5
Red ...you do realize we all could save a lot of storage, bandwidth and processing power if you eleminated' facists (and variations there of), illogical references to Nazi's and The KKK party....which I have still no figured out. Good news my magic decoder ring should arrive soon. Let me help you out. The Democrats are the Party of the KKK. They birthed them, financed them, and peopled them. They still do. However, now that the KKK is no longer a threat to much of anyone but themselves, they have turned to fascism, and birthed antifa, to be the brown shirts that the KKK used to be. Facism and NAZIism are essentially the same thing. The difference is in tactics, not final solutions. Therefore, the Democrats have become the new NAZI Party. Of course, they always did have an affinity for NAZIs. Ohhhh that. The same incoherent stuff you always type out. Got it. 🙄 Lets start simple; how do you connect the dems and the KKK other than your saying they are connected. Show me a link from a real media source...heck...at this point I would settle for an op-ed that coincides with your position with some reasonable associations, time line and such. I look forward to reading them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 7:19:18 GMT -5
Nope. The NRA has become a flash point for the Left, because they haven't been able to disarm the public through legislation. They want to put pressure on their fellow travelers in Congress to ignore the Constitution, and make sure that no one but themselves are armed. Blaming the NRA for every Leftist that goes bezerk, and shoots up a night club, school, or office is just part of the propaganda. The NRA has nothing at all to do with any of the shootings they are being blamed for, but the Goebbels media simply regurgitates the lies and calumny coming from the fascists. Yep! You are one sad, demented, sick puppy. If you can't add anything but a personal attack on another poster, why post anything?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 11:15:45 GMT -5
Nope. The NRA has become a flash point for the Left, because they haven't been able to disarm the public through legislation. They want to put pressure on their fellow travelers in Congress to ignore the Constitution, and make sure that no one but themselves are armed. Blaming the NRA for every Leftist that goes bezerk, and shoots up a night club, school, or office is just part of the propaganda. The NRA has nothing at all to do with any of the shootings they are being blamed for, but the Goebbels media simply regurgitates the lies and calumny coming from the fascists. The NRA "A" rating is a kiss of death politically nowadays. Nobody wants to be seen as a sellout to the Russians. www.thedailybeast.com/the-nras-a-rating-loses-its-luster-for-republican-candidates
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Post by guido2 on Oct 15, 2018 11:44:48 GMT -5
Nope. The NRA has become a flash point for the Left, because they haven't been able to disarm the public through legislation. They want to put pressure on their fellow travelers in Congress to ignore the Constitution, and make sure that no one but themselves are armed. Blaming the NRA for every Leftist that goes bezerk, and shoots up a night club, school, or office is just part of the propaganda. The NRA has nothing at all to do with any of the shootings they are being blamed for, but the Goebbels media simply regurgitates the lies and calumny coming from the fascists. The NRA "A" rating is a kiss of death politically nowadays. Nobody wants to be seen as a sellout to the Russians. www.thedailybeast.com/the-nras-a-rating-loses-its-luster-for-republican-candidatesFidel ...I want to thank you for saving me so much money on admission to the local zoo. I can watch you throw money poop for nothing. smh.
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Post by palealeman on Oct 15, 2018 11:55:29 GMT -5
Let me help you out. The Democrats are the Party of the KKK. They birthed them, financed them, and peopled them. They still do. However, now that the KKK is no longer a threat to much of anyone but themselves, they have turned to fascism, and birthed antifa, to be the brown shirts that the KKK used to be. Facism and NAZIism are essentially the same thing. The difference is in tactics, not final solutions. Therefore, the Democrats have become the new NAZI Party. Of course, they always did have an affinity for NAZIs. Ohhhh that. The same incoherent stuff you always type out. Got it. 🙄 Lets start simple; how do you connect the dems and the KKK other than your saying they are connected. Show me a link from a real media source...heck...at this point I would settle for an op-ed that coincides with your position with some reasonable associations, time line and such. I look forward to reading them. Glad you're not holding your breath, Guido. You'd go for years without oxygen waiting for him to post something cogent.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 11:08:36 GMT -5
Let me help you out. The Democrats are the Party of the KKK. They birthed them, financed them, and peopled them. They still do. However, now that the KKK is no longer a threat to much of anyone but themselves, they have turned to fascism, and birthed antifa, to be the brown shirts that the KKK used to be. Facism and NAZIism are essentially the same thing. The difference is in tactics, not final solutions. Therefore, the Democrats have become the new NAZI Party. Of course, they always did have an affinity for NAZIs. Ohhhh that. The same incoherent stuff you always type out. Got it. 🙄 Lets start simple; how do you connect the dems and the KKK other than your saying they are connected. Show me a link from a real media source...heck...at this point I would settle for an op-ed that coincides with your position with some reasonable associations, time line and such. I look forward to reading them. www.britannica.com/topic/Ku-Klux-Klanwww.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2017/oct/23/dane-county-republican-party/debunking-claim-kkk-was-founded-military-arm-democ/Founded in 1866, the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) extended into almost every southern state by 1870 and became a vehicle for white southern resistance to the Republican Party’s Reconstruction-era policies aimed at establishing political and economic equality for blacks. Its members waged an underground campaign of intimidation and violence directed at white and black Republican leaders.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 11:09:41 GMT -5
Nope. The NRA has become a flash point for the Left, because they haven't been able to disarm the public through legislation. They want to put pressure on their fellow travelers in Congress to ignore the Constitution, and make sure that no one but themselves are armed. Blaming the NRA for every Leftist that goes bezerk, and shoots up a night club, school, or office is just part of the propaganda. The NRA has nothing at all to do with any of the shootings they are being blamed for, but the Goebbels media simply regurgitates the lies and calumny coming from the fascists. The NRA "A" rating is a kiss of death politically nowadays. Nobody wants to be seen as a sellout to the Russians. www.thedailybeast.com/the-nras-a-rating-loses-its-luster-for-republican-candidatesthat would mean that no Democrat would ever be elected to anything, even dog catcher, since Putin owns at least half of the Party of the KKK. Soros, the NAZI, owns the other half.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 11:18:22 GMT -5
that would mean that no Democrat would ever be elected to anything, even dog catcher, since Putin owns at least half of the Party of the KKK. Soros, the NAZI, owns the other half. What rock have you been living under? Putin was the one who helped Trump get elected. Soros is Jared Kushner's business partner.
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