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Post by ivanbalt on Nov 20, 2023 7:51:10 GMT -5
At his prime, he was as dominant as it gets.
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Post by soulflower on Nov 20, 2023 8:03:57 GMT -5
At his prime, he was as dominant as it gets. I was rooting for Britton to make a comeback after his TJ surgery but it sounds like he suffered some setbacks in his recovery…
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 22, 2023 20:42:54 GMT -5
I was glad to have him here. Although he never panned out as the starter he was predicted to be, he was a damn fine closer and did solid work here.
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Post by Jimmy Jazz on Dec 3, 2023 23:01:03 GMT -5
2016 was insane. The game was over. The holmes did not give up runs that year.
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Post by alienrace on Dec 6, 2023 10:33:51 GMT -5
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Post by pickle20 on Dec 6, 2023 10:38:58 GMT -5
Not thrilled by this signing, but hey he's another arm in the backend of the bullpen.
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Post by ivanbalt on Dec 7, 2023 7:21:51 GMT -5
Soto to the Yankees. I don't know much about their farm system to know how much they gave away other than it was 6 players for a one year rental. They obviously have to ability to sign him next year but we'll see.
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Post by pickle20 on Dec 7, 2023 7:30:50 GMT -5
I don't believe their farm system is that good. Ranked 16th at season's end by Bleacher Report. Probably a little weaker now.
Soto and Judge look awesome together in that lineup but will Judge stay healthy? Can the Yankees afford another record-setting contract a year from now? Probably. AL East is going to be a monster again next year.
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Post by ivanbalt on Dec 7, 2023 7:57:12 GMT -5
Padres somehow did worse with a full season of Soto. Not that it was his fault, but one star can't solve all the problems.
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Post by pickle20 on Dec 7, 2023 8:51:38 GMT -5
Padres somehow did worse with a full season of Soto. Not that it was his fault, but one star can't solve all the problems. Pretty crazy that the offense was the issue out there in SD last year with all that firepower in the line-up.
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Post by soulflower on Dec 7, 2023 9:28:29 GMT -5
Soto to the Yankees. I don't know much about their farm system to know how much they gave away other than it was 6 players for a one year rental. They obviously have to ability to sign him next year but we'll see. 2 out of the 6 were already MLB players. The only players the Yankees will probably regret letting go are Michael King and Drew Thorpe. But they desperately needed a Lefty slugger like Soto to balance their offense. So it's a great trade from my POV. Now they need to sign Yamamoto, the Japanese star pither
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Post by pickle20 on Dec 8, 2023 14:14:02 GMT -5
Reports are that Ohtani is signing with Toronto.
The AL East just keeps getting stronger and stronger.
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Post by ivanbalt on Dec 11, 2023 5:48:40 GMT -5
Reports are that Ohtani is signing with Toronto. The AL East just keeps getting stronger and stronger. Thankfully not true. Dodgers got him for an affordable $700 million/10 years. I'm sure that contract will work out well.
This contract indirectly ends any chance of signing Henderson to an extension or as a FA.
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Post by soulflower on Dec 11, 2023 7:14:40 GMT -5
Reports are that Ohtani is signing with Toronto. The AL East just keeps getting stronger and stronger. Thankfully not true. Dodgers got him for an affordable $700 million/10 years. I'm sure that contract will work out well.
This contract indirectly ends any chance of signing Henderson to an extension or as a FA. Premature to assume that. Ohtani is an elite hitter and pitcher so look at it as him being paid as two impact players, not just one. $70 mil per season still seems like an overpay even for Ohtani but I don’t think other players are coming close to his salary any time soon because no other player does what he does…
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Post by ivanbalt on Dec 11, 2023 7:38:42 GMT -5
Thankfully not true. Dodgers got him for an affordable $700 million/10 years. I'm sure that contract will work out well.
This contract indirectly ends any chance of signing Henderson to an extension or as a FA. Premature to assume that. Ohtani is an elite hitter and pitcher so look at it as him being paid as two impact players, not just one. $70 mil per season still seems like an overpay even for Ohtani but I don’t think other players are coming close to his salary any time soon because no other player does what he does… Better believe it will up the ante on FA contracts for elite players. Might not hit $70 mil a year, but if Henderson continues to progress, he'll be $55 a year easily.
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Post by alienrace on Dec 11, 2023 8:02:43 GMT -5
O's are likely having new ownership shortly. Wouldn't worry about not paying or paying right now.
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Post by pickle20 on Dec 11, 2023 8:59:57 GMT -5
$70M a year for Ohtani is basically $35M for him as a hitter, and $35M a year for him as a pitcher. He's top 5 at both positions. I doubt Gunnar extends here but in FA I could see him easily getting $35M a year.
Most of Ohtani's salary is also deferred.
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Post by ivanbalt on Dec 11, 2023 10:04:48 GMT -5
$70M a year for Ohtani is basically $35M for him as a hitter, and $35M a year for him as a pitcher. He's top 5 at both positions. I doubt Gunnar extends here but in FA I could see him easily getting $35M a year. Most of Ohtani's salary is also deferred. Dodgers are clearly optimistic because I don't see him being a two-way player for the life of the contract much less in 5 years. He already won't be pitching in year 1.
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Post by pickle20 on Dec 11, 2023 10:31:46 GMT -5
$70M a year for Ohtani is basically $35M for him as a hitter, and $35M a year for him as a pitcher. He's top 5 at both positions. I doubt Gunnar extends here but in FA I could see him easily getting $35M a year. Most of Ohtani's salary is also deferred. Dodgers are clearly optimistic because I don't see him being a two-way player for the life of the contract much less in 5 years. He already won't be pitching in year 1. Ohtani also brings people to the park and shines an international spotlight on the Dodgers. No other player in baseball can do that.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Dec 11, 2023 13:08:17 GMT -5
Thankfully not true. Dodgers got him for an affordable $700 million/10 years. I'm sure that contract will work out well. This contract indirectly ends any chance of signing Henderson to an extension or as a FA. Premature to assume that. Ohtani is an elite hitter and pitcher so look at it as him being paid as two impact players, not just one. $70 mil per season still seems like an overpay even for Ohtani but I don’t think other players are coming close to his salary any time soon because no other player does what he does… They are taking a chance he will come back from an arm rebuild as good as he was. And a 10 year deal? Risky.
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Post by soulflower on Dec 11, 2023 13:22:02 GMT -5
Premature to assume that. Ohtani is an elite hitter and pitcher so look at it as him being paid as two impact players, not just one. $70 mil per season still seems like an overpay even for Ohtani but I don’t think other players are coming close to his salary any time soon because no other player does what he does… They are taking a chance he will come back from an arm rebuild as good as he was. And a 10 year deal? Risky. It's an overpay for sure. In years and annual value. Just noting that there's no one in the MLB who compares to Ohtani. He's the only one who would potentially be both a Cy Young award winner and a homerun champion. Certainly justifies him getting paid much more than any other player. Gunnar will cost the Os if he goes to Free Agency but he's not going to get Ohtani money...
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Post by Evil Yoda on Dec 11, 2023 16:19:27 GMT -5
They are taking a chance he will come back from an arm rebuild as good as he was. And a 10 year deal? Risky. It's an overpay for sure. In years and annual value. Just noting that there's no one in the MLB who compares to Ohtani. He's the only one who would potentially be both a Cy Young award winner and a homerun champion. Certainly justifies him getting paid much more than any other player. Gunnar will cost the Os if he goes to Free Agency but he's not going to get Ohtani money... All true. Whether the O's even try to sign free agents to expensive long-term deals also depends on whether the rumors are true, that they are for sale. To some hedge fund billionaire whose name escapes me right now.
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Post by alienrace on Dec 11, 2023 16:49:07 GMT -5
It's an overpay for sure. In years and annual value. Just noting that there's no one in the MLB who compares to Ohtani. He's the only one who would potentially be both a Cy Young award winner and a homerun champion. Certainly justifies him getting paid much more than any other player. Gunnar will cost the Os if he goes to Free Agency but he's not going to get Ohtani money... All true. Whether the O's even try to sign free agents to expensive long-term deals also depends on whether the rumors are true, that they are for sale. To some hedge fund billionaire whose name escapes me right now. Don't think it's a rumor. Got a friend that has an inside source about the Carlyle group looking to buy, told me two months ago about it, now reports of negotiations are surfacing.
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Post by soulflower on Dec 11, 2023 18:35:48 GMT -5
All true. Whether the O's even try to sign free agents to expensive long-term deals also depends on whether the rumors are true, that they are for sale. To some hedge fund billionaire whose name escapes me right now. Don't think it's a rumor. Got a friend that has an inside source about the Carlyle group looking to buy, told me two months ago about it, now reports of negotiations are surfacing. The Os are still a very valuable franchise even with the regional competition from DC.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Dec 11, 2023 20:22:58 GMT -5
Don't think it's a rumor. Got a friend that has an inside source about the Carlyle group looking to buy, told me two months ago about it, now reports of negotiations are surfacing. The Os are still a very valuable franchise even with the regional competition from DC. They are, but I am certain that a potential purchaser would have at least tacit input into whether a franchise enters into a long-term contract. If the potential has conveyed that it will have a different strategy than current ownership, current ownership will be careful not to sour the milk.
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Post by ivanbalt on Dec 12, 2023 6:29:43 GMT -5
Don't think it's a rumor. Got a friend that has an inside source about the Carlyle group looking to buy, told me two months ago about it, now reports of negotiations are surfacing. The Os are still a very valuable franchise even with the regional competition from DC. That can't be true. Any day now John Angelos will be opening the books to show us peasants how tough it is. That's why he needs those parking lots and any other land near the stadium.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Dec 12, 2023 12:16:28 GMT -5
The Os are still a very valuable franchise even with the regional competition from DC. That can't be true. Any day now John Angelos will be opening the books to show us peasants how tough it is. That's why he needs those parking lots and any other land near the stadium. Ha ha! Peter used to poor mouth but was never willing to back his claims. Has John done that, too?
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Post by ivanbalt on Dec 12, 2023 12:27:03 GMT -5
That can't be true. Any day now John Angelos will be opening the books to show us peasants how tough it is. That's why he needs those parking lots and any other land near the stadium. Ha ha! Peter used to poor mouth but was never willing to back his claims. Has John done that, too? Oh yeah. He did a press conference last year where he said he would open the books and then shocker, never did. He did cry poor about retaining the young core naturally though.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Dec 12, 2023 18:56:56 GMT -5
Ha ha! Peter used to poor mouth but was never willing to back his claims. Has John done that, too? Oh yeah. He did a press conference last year where he said he would open the books and then shocker, never did. He did cry poor about retaining the young core naturally though. I suppose that shouldn't surprise me. He would have learned how to run the team from listening to and watching his dad.
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