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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2018 10:56:57 GMT -5
You knew there was going to be trouble when Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell started referring to SS and Medicare as "entitlements". Ohhh yes. Talk about a shot across the bow. My wife and I were wondering about their 'attitude' about SS and Medicare. My wife who rarely curses if at all ...said after we talked a bit regarding them... Simply stated my wife said. ....'What is their damn malfunction? Why do they have a bug up their ass about SS and Medicare....programs that PEOPLE PAY INTO and expect a return.' She continued ….my lib open minded wife.....' I mean I can see going after Medicaid...it is a total drain...nothing being contributed in to get stuff out...go after that!!!' My wife is very smart especially on practical things. Yeah Medicaid is so wrong - making sure poor people get health coverage is just horrible, isn't it? They should definitely do away with it and everything else that all the poor get because they definitely don't deserve anything for being so lazy. I mean I worked my butt off for what I have and I don't want it going to some lazy, no good.
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Post by guido2 on Nov 3, 2018 11:19:10 GMT -5
Ohhh yes. Talk about a shot across the bow. My wife and I were wondering about their 'attitude' about SS and Medicare. My wife who rarely curses if at all ...said after we talked a bit regarding them... Simply stated my wife said. ....'What is their damn malfunction? Why do they have a bug up their ass about SS and Medicare....programs that PEOPLE PAY INTO and expect a return.' She continued ….my lib open minded wife.....' I mean I can see going after Medicaid...it is a total drain...nothing being contributed in to get stuff out...go after that!!!' My wife is very smart especially on practical things. Yeah Medicaid is so wrong - making sure poor people get health coverage is just horrible, isn't it? They should definitely do away with it and everything else that all the poor get because they definitely don't deserve anything for being so lazy. I mean I worked my butt off for what I have and I don't want it going to some lazy, no good. NO NO NO. You are missing the point. All those things SS, Medicare and Medicaid are good programs that need to continue. However, the differencing factor is those that pay in and those that don't. Further, no one ever said they were lazy etc....do they have issues ….many self inflicted....ahhhh yup. But should they be denied help? Nope. But there is something inherently wrong with attacking those that paid into it the system... into the same basket that those that haven't paid one dime. For them to 'present' SS and Medicare payees' as an entitlement and in the same breath as Medicaid gets anybody's hackles up. I studied Semantics in college. It is the study of the word(s) and how they are positioned, interpreted and understood. Yes, the term 'entitlement' means that by law/payment/etc. you are owed a return. HOWEVER, the word has been bastardized by the politicians to mean 'free stuff'. And that is what it means to way too many people. Which is wrong. Entitlement as it is presented by the politicians is a 'dog whistle' of free stuff for ….as you put it ….for lazy people. So from a semantics viewpoint the GOP has built a straw man on terms....that ….for most people....is 'free stuff'. I can't help or change that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2018 12:03:48 GMT -5
Yeah Medicaid is so wrong - making sure poor people get health coverage is just horrible, isn't it? They should definitely do away with it and everything else that all the poor get because they definitely don't deserve anything for being so lazy. I mean I worked my butt off for what I have and I don't want it going to some lazy, no good. NO NO NO. You are missing the point. All those things SS, Medicare and Medicaid are good programs that need to continue. However, the differencing factor is those that pay in and those that don't. Further, no one ever said they were lazy etc....do they have issues ….many self inflicted....ahhhh yup. But should they be denied help? Nope. But there is something inherently wrong with attacking those that paid into it the system... into the same basket that those that haven't paid one dime. For them to 'present' SS and Medicare payees' as an entitlement and in the same breath as Medicaid gets anybody's hackles up. I studied Semantics in college. It is the study of the word(s) and how they are positioned, interpreted and understood. Yes, the term 'entitlement' means that by law/payment/etc. you are owed a return. HOWEVER, the word has been bastardized by the politicians to mean 'free stuff'. And that is what it means to way too many people. Which is wrong. Entitlement as it is presented by the politicians is a 'dog whistle' of free stuff for ….as you put it ….for lazy people. So from a semantics viewpoint the GOP has built a straw man on terms....that ….for most people....is 'free stuff'. I can't help or change that. I agree with everything you have said in this post. My post was not what I think but was saying what imo way too many people think today.
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Post by guido2 on Nov 3, 2018 12:08:57 GMT -5
NO NO NO. You are missing the point. All those things SS, Medicare and Medicaid are good programs that need to continue. However, the differencing factor is those that pay in and those that don't. Further, no one ever said they were lazy etc....do they have issues ….many self inflicted....ahhhh yup. But should they be denied help? Nope. But there is something inherently wrong with attacking those that paid into it the system... into the same basket that those that haven't paid one dime. For them to 'present' SS and Medicare payees' as an entitlement and in the same breath as Medicaid gets anybody's hackles up. I studied Semantics in college. It is the study of the word(s) and how they are positioned, interpreted and understood. Yes, the term 'entitlement' means that by law/payment/etc. you are owed a return. HOWEVER, the word has been bastardized by the politicians to mean 'free stuff'. And that is what it means to way too many people. Which is wrong. Entitlement as it is presented by the politicians is a 'dog whistle' of free stuff for ….as you put it ….for lazy people. So from a semantics viewpoint the GOP has built a straw man on terms....that ….for most people....is 'free stuff'. I can't help or change that. I agree with everything you have said in this post. My post was not what I think but was saying what imo way too many people think today. 😊👍
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Post by There's no such thing on Nov 6, 2018 17:18:01 GMT -5
As a free lunch. SOMEONE has to pay; and usually it's the middle class people. Sad.
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Post by WKDWZD on Nov 6, 2018 19:01:45 GMT -5
As a free lunch. SOMEONE has to pay; and usually it's the middle class people. Sad. Every wage earner should pay, that's how practically every other civilised first world, and many second word countries do it. It seems odd that Americans just can't get their heads around it.
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Post by pickle20 on Nov 9, 2018 10:42:35 GMT -5
Do you think you should be reimbursed for years of low COLAs?
0% in 2015 0.3% in 2016 2% in 2017 2.8% in 2018
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Post by guido2 on Nov 9, 2018 14:05:46 GMT -5
Do you think you should be reimbursed for years of low COLAs? 0% in 2015 0.3% in 2016 2% in 2017 2.8% in 2018 Maybe it is the dreary weather. I don't get what you are driving at.
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Post by pickle20 on Nov 9, 2018 14:09:39 GMT -5
Do you think you should be reimbursed for years of low COLAs? 0% in 2015 0.3% in 2016 2% in 2017 2.8% in 2018 Maybe it is the dreary weather. I don't get what you are driving at. COLAs were low those years, below inflation. Do you think COLAs should match inflation? Meaning that, if your COLA is below inflation, you're essentially losing money.
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Post by guido2 on Nov 9, 2018 14:21:41 GMT -5
Maybe it is the dreary weather. I don't get what you are driving at. COLAs were low those years, below inflation. Do you think COLAs should match inflation? Meaning that, if your COLA is below inflation, you're essentially losing money. Ok...now I got what you are saying. . IMHO stuff like this is like when I was working and gas prices....bear with me...…. -when I was working I was a superstar ….high marks...a leader of men....but oppps no money...but you gotta attah boy. No cash. When they had money...I am not so good....as were other workers. Funny how that works. Same stats, call volume, crisis's solved..but not enough to get a share of the money. -when gas prices went up...skyrocketed like in days if not minutes...that happened really fast. Now prices are coming down....sssssllllloooolly. Bottom line for me; if it is bad...you lose....when things get better the 'rebound' is never as high. Hope that makes sense. So since Trump say we are going gang busters (pun intended) well your right ...what about the first two years that were zero. Sorry, in this world ….that is not how it works. But yah know....maybe if the goooberment paid back all the IOUs it owes....we might not be even having this discussion. At the end of 2014, the Trust Fund contained (or alternatively, was owed) $2.79 trillion, up $25 billion from 2013. The Trust Fund is required by law to be invested in non-marketable securities issued and guaranteed by the "full faith and credit" of the federal government.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_Trust_Fund
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Post by pickle20 on Nov 9, 2018 15:08:38 GMT -5
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Post by cyhmn on Nov 11, 2018 11:57:15 GMT -5
one of the shortcomings of the SS system is contributions are capped...so anyone making over the cap (125k?) is paying less % wise than everyone else. Eliminating the cap would go along way towards making the program more solvent.... I would also suggest means testing social security.....
the poor, by the way, include a significant numbers of seniors who retired on a fixed income (SS) and have seen their buying power shrink significantly or were victimized by companies declaring bankruptcy and dumping their pension responsibilities on the USG.....
as for the repugnicans, their sole goal is to transfer as much wealth to the 1% as humanly possible without consideration of the consequences.....they want a plutocracy....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 10:02:35 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 16:00:27 GMT -5
Mine is 66 & 6 born in 1955. My wife's is 1962, so six more months.
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Post by guido2 on Jan 8, 2019 19:41:58 GMT -5
We gained a 2% increase! Yippee! Mind if I ask ...2% of what?
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Post by guido2 on Jan 8, 2019 19:48:28 GMT -5
Mind if I ask ...2% of what? SS benies! Ohhh the 2.8% increase. COLA thx.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 17:51:09 GMT -5
Are the Feds going to fund SS during the shutdown?
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Post by stevez51 on Jan 13, 2019 8:22:35 GMT -5
Are the Feds going to fund SS during the shutdown? Taxes are still coming in.
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Post by palealeman on Jan 13, 2019 17:23:55 GMT -5
Are the Feds going to fund SS during the shutdown? It's already funded. Payments will continue during the shutdown.
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Post by guido2 on Jan 14, 2019 16:24:53 GMT -5
Welp here is another one of those... nobody thought about it till now.
People are already complaining that they are trying to get clarification for filing their taxes. Problem is...there is no one there to answer those questions because those people were furloughed. Not that there answers are all that accurate anyway fromwhat I have been hearing over the years.
So what happens if you 'guess' and are wrong cause you couldn't get an answer? Are you still going to get penalized etc. down the road.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 11:17:06 GMT -5
Weirdest thing this morning.
I had a physical therapy appointment that I cancelled because of the weather. We rescheduled the appointment, originally for tomorrow, only to get a call back that said, the rescheduled appointment had to be itself rescheduled because the activity could only take one Medicare person per hour, according to regulations. It gets better. The nice lady called me back again, requesting to reschedule again because the therapist with whom I would have been working for the new appointment didn't meet the Tricare secondary insurance parameters.
Might this be one of those over-regulation things that drive up costs so much?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 12:10:04 GMT -5
Weirdest thing this morning. I had a physical therapy appointment that I cancelled because of the weather. We rescheduled the appointment, originally for tomorrow, only to get a call back that said, the rescheduled appointment had to be itself rescheduled because the activity could only take one Medicare person per hour, according to regulations. It gets better. The nice lady called me back again, requesting to reschedule again because the therapist with whom I would have been working for the new appointment didn't meet the Tricare secondary insurance parameters. Might this be one of those over-regulation things that drive up costs so much? Wow. Tricare is our primary and Medicare is our secondary. Thankfully, I've never run into a problem like this with ATI physical therapy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 12:13:15 GMT -5
Weirdest thing this morning. I had a physical therapy appointment that I cancelled because of the weather. We rescheduled the appointment, originally for tomorrow, only to get a call back that said, the rescheduled appointment had to be itself rescheduled because the activity could only take one Medicare person per hour, according to regulations. It gets better. The nice lady called me back again, requesting to reschedule again because the therapist with whom I would have been working for the new appointment didn't meet the Tricare secondary insurance parameters. Might this be one of those over-regulation things that drive up costs so much? Wow. Tricare is our primary and Medicare is our secondary. Thankfully, I've never run into a problem like this with ATI physical therapy. We thought of going that way, but live >50 miles from an MTF...just too difficult to get to the doctor when our primary is now only 6 miles away.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 12:15:53 GMT -5
Wow. Tricare is our primary and Medicare is our secondary. Thankfully, I've never run into a problem like this with ATI physical therapy. We thought of going that way, but live >50 miles from an MTF...just too difficult to get to the doctor when our primary is now only 6 miles away. Not sure what an MTF is. We have USFHP so we can use any one associated with Johns Hopkins. Fortunately, their neighborhood physicians community is not even 5 minutes from our house.
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Post by guido2 on Feb 20, 2019 12:52:50 GMT -5
I wonder if anyone has thought about expanding Medicare...rolling all these add-ons/supplementals into one package ….Oh wait. 😉😄
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 14:57:35 GMT -5
I wonder if anyone has thought about expanding Medicare...rolling all these add-ons/supplementals into one package ….Oh wait. 😉😄 Tricare is not a supplemental. It is the medical care provided to military retirees and their dependents. It is offered in lieu of the free medical care for life that was, at one time, promised to those who did 20 years. Between military retirement and eligibility for Medicare, retirees now have to pay for Tricare. I will cede it is not as expensive as regular health insurance, but each payment rewards the government for having lied to us so many years ago.
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Post by guido2 on Feb 20, 2019 16:13:36 GMT -5
I wonder if anyone has thought about expanding Medicare...rolling all these add-ons/supplementals into one package ….Oh wait. 😉😄 Tricare is not a supplemental. It is the medical care provided to military retirees and their dependents. It is offered in lieu of the free medical care for life that was, at one time, promised to those who did 20 years. Between military retirement and eligibility for Medicare, retirees now have to pay for Tricare. I will cede it is not as expensive as regular health insurance, but each payment rewards the government for having lied to us so many years ago. Thanks I didn't know that. But my sarcasm still stands. About being lied to. Well if it is any consolation you are a very over crowded boat if you are a federal or local government former employee. Many of the things that were in a binding contract 🙄 that was negotiated between unions and employees are throw in the hopper by the powers that be on a frequent basis. And the private sector is no better...the BS about 401Ks and matching funds from years ago is pretty much gone. Remember how much better it was supposed to be than 'the gold watch'?
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Post by guido2 on Feb 22, 2019 9:37:59 GMT -5
Weirdest thing this morning. I had a physical therapy appointment that I cancelled because of the weather. We rescheduled the appointment, originally for tomorrow, only to get a call back that said, the rescheduled appointment had to be itself rescheduled because the activity could only take one Medicare person per hour, according to regulations. It gets better. The nice lady called me back again, requesting to reschedule again because the therapist with whom I would have been working for the new appointment didn't meet the Tricare secondary insurance parameters. Might this be one of those over-regulation things that drive up costs so much? We take Medicare and I have never heard of this "regulation". It may be the rule of the practice (because Medicare has a low reimbursement rate) but I highly doubt that it's a "regulation" of Medicare. As to the rest, there are credentialing parameters that must be met. Well if anyone should know it is you with your background. (Complement). Do you think that it may have more to do with the 'partnering' between these two entities? I have 'heard' that when local governmental plans and the military plans and such get together to pay a bill there is always a cat fight. We are on Medicare and have a private supplemental as well as the 'upgrade' of the new Medicare up to the old. And so far, it has been pretty much transparent on who pays what. The only thing that changed was that before we cut over to Medicare was on our private plan we paid a flat co-pay at the time of service. Now we get a bill...according to the Dr.s staff it has to be 'calculated'...and you get the bill. Now what 'calculated' really entails I have no clue.
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Post by stevez51 on Feb 22, 2019 10:54:10 GMT -5
We take Medicare and I have never heard of this "regulation". It may be the rule of the practice (because Medicare has a low reimbursement rate) but I highly doubt that it's a "regulation" of Medicare. As to the rest, there are credentialing parameters that must be met. Well if anyone should know it is you with your background. (Complement). Do you think that it may have more to do with the 'partnering' between these two entities? I have 'heard' that when local governmental plans and the military plans and such get together to pay a bill there is always a cat fight. We are on Medicare and have a private supplemental as well as the 'upgrade' of the new Medicare up to the old. And so far, it has been pretty much transparent on who pays what. The only thing that changed was that before we cut over to Medicare was on our private plan we paid a flat co-pay at the time of service. Now we get a bill...according to the Dr.s staff it has to be 'calculated'...and you get the bill. Now what 'calculated' really entails I have no clue. Do you have part b along with the supplemental.? My wife has found in the office she works in people opted for the cheaper plans than part b. But some of those plans have different rules about appointments & payments.
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Post by guido2 on Feb 22, 2019 10:59:47 GMT -5
Well if anyone should know it is you with your background. (Complement). Do you think that it may have more to do with the 'partnering' between these two entities? I have 'heard' that when local governmental plans and the military plans and such get together to pay a bill there is always a cat fight. We are on Medicare and have a private supplemental as well as the 'upgrade' of the new Medicare up to the old. And so far, it has been pretty much transparent on who pays what. The only thing that changed was that before we cut over to Medicare was on our private plan we paid a flat co-pay at the time of service. Now we get a bill...according to the Dr.s staff it has to be 'calculated'...and you get the bill. Now what 'calculated' really entails I have no clue. Do you have part b along with the supplemental.? My wife has found in the office she works in people opted for the cheaper plans than part b. But some of those plans have different rules about appointments & payments. We have part a & b through the government. The remainder is through Cigna Medicare Surround which includes prescriptions.
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