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Post by pickle20 on Aug 26, 2019 14:51:09 GMT -5
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Post by elflippo on Aug 26, 2019 14:58:08 GMT -5
I swear I was just thinking the same thing just an hour ago in reference to non-Whites suddenly invoking the "stand your ground" defense en mass.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 16:16:09 GMT -5
Is he a racist?
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Post by smokey1 on Aug 26, 2019 16:31:39 GMT -5
Can't be, he's black.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 16:33:43 GMT -5
So 1% of the killings outweighs the 99% routinely done in places like Chicago, Baltimore and St Louis? Maybe only a minority segment of these places should be gun owners since the majority of these crimes are done by majority racial population? The only saving grace is they are lousy shots or too stupid to know what a sight picture is, 50 injured with 2 killed is typical.
PS I strongly dislike Trump but I hope he succeeds since I am an American FIRST and not a worldist.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 19:30:13 GMT -5
He certainly seems to be on something.
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Post by Jimmy Jazz on Aug 26, 2019 22:04:00 GMT -5
He’s a comedian. It’s funny. There’s also a historical precedent for what he’s saying.
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Post by pickle20 on Aug 27, 2019 7:31:33 GMT -5
So 1% of the killings outweighs the 99% routinely done in places like Chicago, Baltimore and St Louis? Maybe only a minority segment of these places should be gun owners since the majority of these crimes are done by majority racial population? The only saving grace is they are lousy shots or too stupid to know what a sight picture is, 50 injured with 2 killed is typical. PS I strongly dislike Trump but I hope he succeeds since I am an American FIRST and not a worldist. SMH Here we go again. Urban violence and mass shootings are two separate issues. I know not everyone can walk and chew gum at the same time, but do try. Chappelle is merely saying that if we want to change the laws to prevent mass shootings, blacks (and Hispanics) should all exercise their legal right to defend themselves with a legally-purchased firearm. That appears to be the ONLY thing that would motivate the Old White Men in power to start changing gun laws.
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Post by pickle20 on Aug 27, 2019 7:35:31 GMT -5
His take on the 2016 election was hilarious, and correct, too:
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Post by smokey1 on Aug 27, 2019 7:52:03 GMT -5
So 1% of the killings outweighs the 99% routinely done in places like Chicago, Baltimore and St Louis? Maybe only a minority segment of these places should be gun owners since the majority of these crimes are done by majority racial population? The only saving grace is they are lousy shots or too stupid to know what a sight picture is, 50 injured with 2 killed is typical. PS I strongly dislike Trump but I hope he succeeds since I am an American FIRST and not a worldist. SMH Here we go again. Urban violence and mass shootings are two separate issues. I know not everyone can walk and chew gum at the same time, but do try. Chappelle is merely saying that if we want to change the laws to prevent mass shootings, blacks (and Hispanics) should all exercise their legal right to defend themselves with a legally-purchased firearm.
That appears to be the ONLY thing that would motivate the Old White Men in power to start changing gun laws. Blacks and Hispanics are the only targets of mass shooters? How would Blacks and Hispanics arming themselves change the law?
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Post by microg on Aug 27, 2019 7:58:36 GMT -5
SMH Here we go again. Urban violence and mass shootings are two separate issues. I know not everyone can walk and chew gum at the same time, but do try. Chappelle is merely saying that if we want to change the laws to prevent mass shootings, blacks (and Hispanics) should all exercise their legal right to defend themselves with a legally-purchased firearm.
That appears to be the ONLY thing that would motivate the Old White Men in power to start changing gun laws. Blacks and Hispanics are the only targets of mass shooters? How would Blacks and Hispanics arming themselves change the law? It is being assumed that "White Lawmakers" are so racists that as soon they see a bunch of Blacks and Hispanics arming themselves, they will pass laws to stop it. To be fair, early gun laws were probably rooted in racism.
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Post by Ranger John on Aug 27, 2019 8:13:05 GMT -5
SMH Here we go again. Urban violence and mass shootings are two separate issues. I know not everyone can walk and chew gum at the same time, but do try. Chappelle is merely saying that if we want to change the laws to prevent mass shootings, blacks (and Hispanics) should all exercise their legal right to defend themselves with a legally-purchased firearm.
That appears to be the ONLY thing that would motivate the Old White Men in power to start changing gun laws. Blacks and Hispanics are the only targets of mass shooters? How would Blacks and Hispanics arming themselves change the law? Well, they can't arm themselves. At least not the city-dwellers. Their insanely racist local governments won't let them. But hey, the NRA would be happy to help try to change that. In fact, they've been working on it for years. Maybe Chappelle should reach out to Wayne LaPierre and try to work out some sort of sponsorship or lobbying campaign.
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Post by pickle20 on Aug 27, 2019 8:14:31 GMT -5
SMH Here we go again. Urban violence and mass shootings are two separate issues. I know not everyone can walk and chew gum at the same time, but do try. Chappelle is merely saying that if we want to change the laws to prevent mass shootings, blacks (and Hispanics) should all exercise their legal right to defend themselves with a legally-purchased firearm.
That appears to be the ONLY thing that would motivate the Old White Men in power to start changing gun laws. Blacks and Hispanics are the only targets of mass shooters? How would Blacks and Hispanics arming themselves change the law? Where did I say "blacks and Hispanics are the only targets of mass shootings?" I said that if they armed themselves legally, then you'd see the powers that be jump to make changes. And you know it would happen as much as I do.
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Post by elflippo on Aug 27, 2019 8:15:39 GMT -5
To be fair, early gun laws were probably rooted in racism. Remember what happened when the Black Panthers began to exercise their right to open carry...
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Post by pickle20 on Aug 27, 2019 8:15:42 GMT -5
Blacks and Hispanics are the only targets of mass shooters? How would Blacks and Hispanics arming themselves change the law? Well, they can't arm themselves. At least not the city-dwellers. Their insanely racist local governments won't let them. But hey, the NRA would be happy to help try to change that. In fact, they've been working on it for years. Maybe Chappelle should reach out to Wayne LaPierre and try to work out some sort of sponsorship or lobbying campaign. Yeah because all blacks and hispanics are "city dwellers." SMH
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Post by elflippo on Aug 27, 2019 8:21:00 GMT -5
Yeah because all blacks and hispanics are "city dwellers." Or even more accurately - not all "city dwellers" are Black or Hispanic...
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Post by smokey1 on Aug 27, 2019 10:13:37 GMT -5
Blacks and Hispanics are the only targets of mass shooters? How would Blacks and Hispanics arming themselves change the law? It is being assumed that "White Lawmakers" are so racists that as soon they see a bunch of Blacks and Hispanics arming themselves, they will pass laws to stop it. To be fair, early gun laws were probably rooted in racism. That's nonsense and ignorant paranoia. There is no law stopping people from arming themselves now unless they have a criminal background. Gun owners would oppose additional restrictions that would prevent people from getting arms.
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Post by pickle20 on Aug 27, 2019 10:41:10 GMT -5
It is being assumed that "White Lawmakers" are so racists that as soon they see a bunch of Blacks and Hispanics arming themselves, they will pass laws to stop it. To be fair, early gun laws were probably rooted in racism. That's nonsense and ignorant paranoia. There is no law stopping people from arming themselves now unless they have a criminal background. Gun owners would oppose additional restrictions that would prevent people from getting arms. www.nytimes.com/2018/12/08/reader-center/gun-rights-black-people.htmlThe problem seems to exist more with police who are interacting with a POC who is a legal gun owner. What Chappelle said was tinged in humor, but all humor has truth to it. However, I do believe that a sudden surge of gun ownership by the black population (combined with surges from other minorities) would set off alarms in DC, the NRA, and many other places across the country.
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Post by guido2 on Aug 27, 2019 10:42:49 GMT -5
Blacks and Hispanics are the only targets of mass shooters? How would Blacks and Hispanics arming themselves change the law? Well, they can't arm themselves. At least not the city-dwellers. Their insanely racist local governments won't let them. But hey, the NRA would be happy to help try to change that. In fact, they've been working on it for years. Maybe Chappelle should reach out to Wayne LaPierre and try to work out some sort of sponsorship or lobbying campaign. Really? Hmmm then the 1000+ homicides in Baltimore were done with slingshots over the past few years? Or was that a pigment of my imagination. 😵😆
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Post by pickle20 on Aug 27, 2019 10:43:22 GMT -5
Blacks and Hispanics are the only targets of mass shooters? How would Blacks and Hispanics arming themselves change the law? Well, they can't arm themselves. At least not the city-dwellers. Their insanely racist local governments won't let them. But hey, the NRA would be happy to help try to change that. In fact, they've been working on it for years. Maybe Chappelle should reach out to Wayne LaPierre and try to work out some sort of sponsorship or lobbying campaign. This is absolutely wrong. Anyone who passes a background check is allowed to own a gun, "city dweller" or not.
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Post by pickle20 on Aug 27, 2019 10:43:54 GMT -5
Well, they can't arm themselves. At least not the city-dwellers. Their insanely racist local governments won't let them. But hey, the NRA would be happy to help try to change that. In fact, they've been working on it for years. Maybe Chappelle should reach out to Wayne LaPierre and try to work out some sort of sponsorship or lobbying campaign. Really? Hmmm then the 1000+ homicides in Baltimore were done with slingshots over the past few years? Or was that a pigment of my imagination. 😵😆 We're talking about legally owned guns. Try to keep up.
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Post by Ranger John on Aug 27, 2019 10:55:26 GMT -5
Well, they can't arm themselves. At least not the city-dwellers. Their insanely racist local governments won't let them. But hey, the NRA would be happy to help try to change that. In fact, they've been working on it for years. Maybe Chappelle should reach out to Wayne LaPierre and try to work out some sort of sponsorship or lobbying campaign. This is absolutely wrong. Anyone who passes a background check is allowed to own a gun, "city dweller" or not. Sure, but they can't carry them.
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Post by guido2 on Aug 27, 2019 10:57:39 GMT -5
Really? Hmmm then the 1000+ homicides in Baltimore were done with slingshots over the past few years? Or was that a pigment of my imagination. 😵😆 We're talking about legally owned guns. Try to keep up. Who says?
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Post by soulflower on Aug 27, 2019 10:58:20 GMT -5
Historically, there’s some truth to what he’s saying.
Some gun control Laws were in response to The Black Panthers openly carrying guns.
I’m hearing that Dave also takes shots at PC culture in his latest Netflix special
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Post by guido2 on Aug 27, 2019 11:10:02 GMT -5
Well, they can't arm themselves. At least not the city-dwellers. Their insanely racist local governments won't let them. But hey, the NRA would be happy to help try to change that. In fact, they've been working on it for years. Maybe Chappelle should reach out to Wayne LaPierre and try to work out some sort of sponsorship or lobbying campaign. This is absolutely wrong. Anyone who passes a background check is allowed to own a gun, "city dweller" or not. Not so fast pickle20 you missed a couple of steps at least in MD/Balt. 1- You must apply for a permit to purchase a handgun (and soon to be any gun next GA) and pay a fee 2- You must get fingerprinted and cleared. That's another fee 3- Before you get the permit to buy you must attend a week long classes on gun safety. For a fee. 4- You must be cleared and certified at a range for proficiency in live fire and handling. For a fee. 5- Then you can start actually buying a handgun. Now most stores will not even let you touch a gun without the permit to show. 6- Then you pick out the gun, pay a fee for processing the paperwork 7- Then you must wait 5 or more days to actually get it. Forgive me I lost track of the GA's last bill. 8- TA DAH....you can actually get the gun. Ohhhh and I forgot....the permit to purchase.....you have to renew it every 3 years. Yes you guessed it for a fee. That is your primer for MD gun purchases. Quiz on Friday. 😆
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Post by guido2 on Aug 27, 2019 11:24:00 GMT -5
I have been watching this badminton match between several of you and I only have to say this.
In a sick way Dave is right. In order to get states to fall in line with gun laws he is correct that a sudden surge in black LEGAL gun ownership will undoubtedly raise eyebrows in DC for all the wrong reasons. But if that is what it takes fine.
But, once again I ask; if you consider the number of legally owned guns and gun owners. Of them what percentage of those are used in homicides/robberies/etc? Now, how many illegal ones are?
Again here in MD with it's very strict rules for gun ownership. How many crimes have been found to be with a legal gun? Four maybe 10 at best if you include suicides or guns that are stolen from the family home by a kid? Which by default makes them illegal anyway.
I am all for the entire nation to have rules similar to MDs. If for any reason to get the 'monkey off the back' and BS about guns. If all states have the exact same process. The guns kill people is out the window. It finally comes down to ….bad guys with guns....kill people.
And that stigma removal will be a blessing. IMHO
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 21:05:45 GMT -5
So 1% of the killings outweighs the 99% routinely done in places like Chicago, Baltimore and St Louis? Maybe only a minority segment of these places should be gun owners since the majority of these crimes are done by majority racial population? The only saving grace is they are lousy shots or too stupid to know what a sight picture is, 50 injured with 2 killed is typical. PS I strongly dislike Trump but I hope he succeeds since I am an American FIRST and not a worldist. SMH Here we go again. Urban violence and mass shootings are two separate issues. I know not everyone can walk and chew gum at the same time, but do try. Chappelle is merely saying that if we want to change the laws to prevent mass shootings, blacks (and Hispanics) should all exercise their legal right to defend themselves with a legally-purchased firearm. That appears to be the ONLY thing that would motivate the QuoteOld White Men in power to start changing gun laws. Why would QuoteOld White Men in power fear law abiding blacks that were screened?
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Post by pickle20 on Aug 28, 2019 6:54:01 GMT -5
SMH Here we go again. Urban violence and mass shootings are two separate issues. I know not everyone can walk and chew gum at the same time, but do try. Chappelle is merely saying that if we want to change the laws to prevent mass shootings, blacks (and Hispanics) should all exercise their legal right to defend themselves with a legally-purchased firearm. That appears to be the ONLY thing that would motivate the QuoteOld White Men in power to start changing gun laws. Why would QuoteOld White Men in power fear law abiding blacks that were screened? You been under a rock since 2008 son? For the exact same reasons Trump was elected Preznit after a black President.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 13:06:41 GMT -5
Why would QuoteOld White Men in power fear law abiding blacks that were screened? You been under a rock since 2008 son? For the exact same reasons Trump was elected Preznit after a black President. So law abiding blacks we're responsible for Trump?
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Post by pickle20 on Aug 28, 2019 13:32:33 GMT -5
You been under a rock since 2008 son? For the exact same reasons Trump was elected Preznit after a black President. So law abiding blacks we're responsible for Trump? The fear of them, sure.
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