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Post by stevez51 on Sept 12, 2023 10:48:50 GMT -5
Just like I'm not sending jets to I'm sending jets.
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Post by stevez51 on Sept 12, 2023 10:50:38 GMT -5
The Biden Administration should pull the SOB’s FCC license Musk has the right to remain neutral if he so chooses. If he was allowing Russia to use his technology you might have a point, but even if he did, what law has he broken? The law of, don't go against JIM ..........
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Post by stevez51 on Sept 12, 2023 10:53:26 GMT -5
“Curtailing aid to Ukraine will only prolong the war, Mr Zelensky argues. And it would create risks for the West in its own backyard. There is no way of predicting how the millions of Ukrainian refugees in European countries would react to their country being abandoned. Ukrainians have generally “behaved well” and are “very grateful” to those who sheltered them. They will not forget that generosity. But it would not be a “good story” for Europe if it were to “drive these people into a corner”.”www.economist.com/europe/2023/09/10/donald-trump-will-never-support-putin-says-volodymyr-zelenskyPresident Zelensky is sounding more and more unhinged lately. Sounds like he could snitch on all those who deal with the country.
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Post by stevez51 on Sept 12, 2023 10:55:50 GMT -5
Hasn’t this been the story of basically every weapon system? F16s, Abrams, etc…? Hmm, I forgot about the tanks ........
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Post by carllafong on Sept 12, 2023 11:13:44 GMT -5
Musk has the right to remain neutral if he so chooses. If he was allowing Russia to use his technology you might have a point, but even if he did, what law has he broken? The law of, don't go against JIM .......... Great post sir! You've outdone yourself! 😉
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Post by WKDWZD on Sept 12, 2023 11:55:58 GMT -5
Just like I'm not sending jets to I'm sending jets. It's how all wars escalate. If someone doesn't have the nads to put the brakes on this, then we are only a matter of months from WW3. It almost seems to be what the cheerleaders on here want to happen.
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Post by stevez51 on Sept 12, 2023 12:12:08 GMT -5
The law of, don't go against JIM .......... Great post sir! You've outdone yourself! 😉 Do you get in trouble for this hit & run crap ..?? You post a bunch of these then stop. Are you warned to knock it off. Then after some time try again. You act like my 18 month old grandson who thinks we forget we told him not to go into the cabinet.
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Post by stevez51 on Sept 12, 2023 12:14:43 GMT -5
Just like I'm not sending jets to I'm sending jets. It's how all wars escalate. If someone doesn't have the nads to put the brakes on this, then we are only a matter of months from WW3. It almost seems to be what the cheerleaders on here want to happen. No tanks, ok here's tanks Not jets, ok here's jets No cluster bombs, ok here's cluster bombs. Has Zelensky asked for nukes yet ..??
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Post by soulflower on Sept 12, 2023 12:17:41 GMT -5
Republican focus group in NH unanimously rejected more aid for Ukraine
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Post by carllafong on Sept 12, 2023 12:24:32 GMT -5
Great post sir! You've outdone yourself! 😉 Do you get in trouble for this hit & run crap ..?? You post a bunch of these then stop. Are you warned to knock it off. Then after some time try again. You act like my 18 month old grandson who thinks we forget we told him not to go into the cabinet. You might want to look up irony in the dictionary sir..... 😉
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Post by JoyinMudville on Sept 12, 2023 13:49:56 GMT -5
Just like I'm not sending jets to I'm sending jets. It's how all wars escalate. If someone doesn't have the nads to put the brakes on this, then we are only a matter of months from WW3. It almost seems to be what the cheerleaders on here want to happen. Not really. This, on the other hand, is exactly how wars escalate and no one here seems to have had a problem with the remarks. www.newsweek.com/russian-general-admits-ukraine-just-stepping-stone-invade-europe-1825776Putin could end the war tomorrow. Instead he's announcing another mobilization. Instead, he moved from simple territorial conquest to disrupting the entire world's food supply by destroying the Odesa grain terminals and other export facilities along the Danube. Funny, how I never hear a peep from you guys about that.
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Post by WKDWZD on Sept 12, 2023 15:00:31 GMT -5
It's how all wars escalate. If someone doesn't have the nads to put the brakes on this, then we are only a matter of months from WW3. It almost seems to be what the cheerleaders on here want to happen. Not really. This, on the other hand, is exactly how wars escalate and no one here seems to have had a problem with the remarks. www.newsweek.com/russian-general-admits-ukraine-just-stepping-stone-invade-europe-1825776Putin could end the war tomorrow. Instead he's announcing another mobilization. Instead, he moved from simple territorial conquest to disrupting the entire world's food supply by destroying the Odesa grain terminals and other export facilities along the Danube. Funny, how I never hear a peep from you guys about that. Yes, really. Sure "Putin could end it tomorrow" ... come on get real, lots of things could happen tomorrow . You have got to get out of this single mindset. Hopefully the people that could end this war do not have the same mindset as you because if they have, we are all fecked. I, as a European, am far more aware of the effects of this war than you, as an American are. My own food bills and energy costs have been very much affected, to the tune of 30% and 200% respectively. I bet if you saw you A/C bills treble and your food bills rise 30%, you would "peep" differently.
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Post by JoyinMudville on Sept 12, 2023 15:43:31 GMT -5
Not really. This, on the other hand, is exactly how wars escalate and no one here seems to have had a problem with the remarks. www.newsweek.com/russian-general-admits-ukraine-just-stepping-stone-invade-europe-1825776Putin could end the war tomorrow. Instead he's announcing another mobilization. Instead, he moved from simple territorial conquest to disrupting the entire world's food supply by destroying the Odesa grain terminals and other export facilities along the Danube. Funny, how I never hear a peep from you guys about that. Yes, really. Sure "Putin could end it tomorrow" ... come on get real, lots of things could happen tomorrow . You have got to get out of this single mindset. Hopefully the people that could end this war do not have the same mindset as you because if they have, we are all fecked. I, as a European, am far more aware of the effects of this war than you, as an American are. My own food bills and energy costs have been very much affected, to the tune of 30% and 200% respectively. I bet if you saw you A/C bills treble and your food bills rise 30%, you would "peep" differently. Putin is the one messing with the global food supply by destroying Ukrainian grain terminals and forcing farmers to leave their fields fallow because the Russians have scattered millions, literally millions, of land mines over great swathes of the country. Again, Putin can end this war tommorw. He doesn't want to.
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Post by soulflower on Sept 12, 2023 15:49:23 GMT -5
Yes, really. Sure "Putin could end it tomorrow" ... come on get real, lots of things could happen tomorrow . You have got to get out of this single mindset. Hopefully the people that could end this war do not have the same mindset as you because if they have, we are all fecked. I, as a European, am far more aware of the effects of this war than you, as an American are. My own food bills and energy costs have been very much affected, to the tune of 30% and 200% respectively. I bet if you saw you A/C bills treble and your food bills rise 30%, you would "peep" differently. Putin is the one messing with the global food supply by destroying Ukrainian grain terminals and forcing farmers to leave their fields fallow because the Russians have scattered millions, literally millions, of land mines over great swathes of the country. Again, Putin can end this war tommorw. He doesn't want to. Unless Ukraine is willing to compromise on Crimea, I don’t think Putin can “end the war tomorrow” without suffering consequences for himself or Russia. Both sides are sticking to their maximalist objectives and aren’t ready to negotiate or compromise. Ukraine has the Right to stick to their goals as long as they want but their interests are not our interests and they’re not entitled to our tax dollars. We can put conditions and limits on the aid if we want. President Zelensky is doing Ukraine no favors by threatening countries that are helping him…
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Post by stevez51 on Sept 12, 2023 16:52:51 GMT -5
Yes, really. Sure "Putin could end it tomorrow" ... come on get real, lots of things could happen tomorrow . You have got to get out of this single mindset. Hopefully the people that could end this war do not have the same mindset as you because if they have, we are all fecked. I, as a European, am far more aware of the effects of this war than you, as an American are. My own food bills and energy costs have been very much affected, to the tune of 30% and 200% respectively. I bet if you saw you A/C bills treble and your food bills rise 30%, you would "peep" differently. Putin is the one messing with the global food supply by destroying Ukrainian grain terminals and forcing farmers to leave their fields fallow because the Russians have scattered millions, literally millions, of land mines over great swathes of the country. Again, Putin can end this war tommorw. He doesn't want to. War has not found the western side of the country . Its mostly on the far eastern side.
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Post by stevez51 on Sept 12, 2023 16:54:36 GMT -5
Do you get in trouble for this hit & run crap ..?? You post a bunch of these then stop. Are you warned to knock it off. Then after some time try again. You act like my 18 month old grandson who thinks we forget we told him not to go into the cabinet. You might want to look up irony in the dictionary sir..... 😉 Does your words carry the iron of Josey Wales & Ten Bears ........
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Post by carllafong on Sept 12, 2023 16:58:33 GMT -5
You might want to look up irony in the dictionary sir..... 😉 Does your words carry the iron of Josey Wales & Ten Bears ........ It's got to be an act. Wow.
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Post by JoyinMudville on Sept 12, 2023 17:45:42 GMT -5
Putin is the one messing with the global food supply by destroying Ukrainian grain terminals and forcing farmers to leave their fields fallow because the Russians have scattered millions, literally millions, of land mines over great swathes of the country. Again, Putin can end this war tommorw. He doesn't want to. Unless Ukraine is willing to compromise on Crimea, I don’t think Putin can “end the war tomorrow” without suffering consequences for himself or Russia. He should of thought of that before he launched a genocidal invasion for territorial conquest
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Post by JoyinMudville on Sept 12, 2023 17:46:22 GMT -5
Putin is the one messing with the global food supply by destroying Ukrainian grain terminals and forcing farmers to leave their fields fallow because the Russians have scattered millions, literally millions, of land mines over great swathes of the country. Again, Putin can end this war tommorw. He doesn't want to. War has not found the western side of the country . Its mostly on the far eastern side. You don't know what the f you're talking about
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Post by soulflower on Sept 12, 2023 17:57:00 GMT -5
Unless Ukraine is willing to compromise on Crimea, I don’t think Putin can “end the war tomorrow” without suffering consequences for himself or Russia. He should of thought of that before he launched a genocidal invasion for territorial conquest We agree but it is what it is. Life isn’t always fair. Ukraine and the US can’t impose conditions on Russia unless Ukraine defeats Russia.
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Post by JoyinMudville on Sept 12, 2023 17:58:53 GMT -5
He should of thought of that before he launched a genocidal invasion for territorial conquest We agree but it is what it is. Life isn’t always fair. No, it's not But the reality is that 1) Russia is losing 2) Putin's hold on Crimea grows more tenuous every day
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Post by soulflower on Sept 12, 2023 18:03:30 GMT -5
We agree but it is what it is. Life isn’t always fair. No, it's not But the reality is that 1) Russia is losing 2) Putin's hold on Crimea grows more tenuous every day - Russia isn’t going to give up Crimea. It’s part of Russia as far as they’re concerned. - Neither side is winning. The war is at a stalemate. The sooner that both sides accept that they can’t achieve all of their objectives via military force, the better…
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Post by JoyinMudville on Sept 12, 2023 18:34:27 GMT -5
- Neither side is winning. The war is at a stalemate. that's your wishful thinking
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Post by soulflower on Sept 12, 2023 18:59:09 GMT -5
- Neither side is winning. The war is at a stalemate. that's your wishful thinking Wishful thinking is why Ukraine's counteroffensive has gone so poorly and the rainy/mud season is just a few weeks away.
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Post by JoyinMudville on Sept 12, 2023 19:43:41 GMT -5
that's your wishful thinking Wishful thinking is why Ukraine's counteroffensive has gone so poorly and the rainy/mud season is just a few weeks away. Funny, you were saying the exact same stuff last year around this time and Ukraine went on to liberate thousands of square miles of territory in September and October
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Post by soulflower on Sept 12, 2023 19:56:21 GMT -5
Wishful thinking is why Ukraine's counteroffensive has gone so poorly and the rainy/mud season is just a few weeks away. Funny, you were saying the exact same stuff last year around this time and Ukraine went on to liberate thousands of square miles of territory in September and October Wishful thinking is why you refuse to accept that Ukraine’s successes in Kharkiv and Kherson last year were due to Russian forces being stretched thin. The circumstances that led to Ukraine’s successes no longer exist. The Russians increased the number of troops in theater and have improved their tactics. The frontlines haven’t changed much since last fall because of the Russians improving their defensive positions but also because it’s very difficult, even for the Russians, to sustain offensive advances through land mines, drones, and artillery fire. After billions spent on western weapons for Ukraine, they’ve only advanced 8-10km in their summer offensive. Maybe they’ll have better luck next year if they get F-16s…
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Post by JoyinMudville on Sept 12, 2023 20:06:08 GMT -5
Funny, you were saying the exact same stuff last year around this time and Ukraine went on to liberate thousands of square miles of territory in September and October Wishful thinking is why you refuse to accept that Ukraine’s successes in Kharkiv and Kherson last year were due to Russian forces being stretched thin. The circumstances that led to Ukraine’s successes no longer exist. The Russians increased the number of troops in theater and have improved their tactics. Russia's forces have been depleted and are stretched thin leading Russia to cannibalize units in a desperate effort to stop Ukraine from further expanding their salient between Robotyne and Verbove. That hurts unit cohesion and indicates that Russia no longer has good reserves to commit to the fight. I get it, you're desperate, but it doesn't change the reality of what's going on. Meanwhile, Ukraine has severely inhibited Russia's ability to monitor what's going on off the west coast of Crimea and they're taking advantage of that blind spot
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Post by soulflower on Sept 12, 2023 20:08:25 GMT -5
Okay General Joy. You’re welcome to stick with your delusions about the war. I’m not going to keep going back and forth with you.
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Post by soulflower on Sept 12, 2023 20:14:55 GMT -5
Advisor to President Zelensky casually makes racist remarks about the Indians and Chinese. Implying that they’re dumb and uncivilized. I wish I could be surprised by this stuff
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Post by kandace on Sept 12, 2023 20:18:33 GMT -5
From News.com.au:Russian General Says Ukraine Invasion First Step to Invade Eastern Europe
A Russian general recently promoted by Vladimir Putin has raised eyebrows across Europe with a television appearance explaining Moscow’s ambitions after the Ukraine war.
In a recent interview with the state-run program Russia-1, Lieutenant General Andrey Mordvichev said he believed the invasion of Ukraine was “just the beginning” of further conflicts with Europe.
Putin’s invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 prompted renewed fears of a global war, with some analysts describing the brazen gesture as a precursor to an uncontrollable conflict.
In the period after the invasion, Russian commentators ramped-up their anti-NATO rhetoric, regularly injecting pro-Kremlin propaganda into neighbouring countries, promoting political instability and a general distaste for the West.
Russia’s complex information war has led pro-democracy advocates to believe Putin is cultivating a global sphere of influence to eventually make an assertive move against the West beyond Ukraine’s borders.
General Mordvichev’s comments provide another clue as to what is being disseminated among high-ranking military officials, hinting that the current war for Ukraine will continue for years and eventually expand in the future, particularly into Eastern Europe.
When asked if Ukraine was just a “stepping stone”, Mordvichev claimed that it was indeed only the beginning.
“I think there‘s still plenty of time to spend. It is pointless to talk about a specified period. If we are talking about Eastern Europe, which we will have to, of course then it will be longer,” he said.
******************************* He's just saying the quiet part out loud “It is only the beginning. The war will not stop here.”
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