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Post by guido2 on Sept 1, 2023 15:06:48 GMT -5
True. But at least there is a baseline. As I understand the law, states can not set higher standards than the Feds. They can build downward but not up. I'm not sure what you mean. If you mean that states cannot have more restrictive laws than the states I would refer you to the several "dry" counties. Yeah I get what you are saying. Depending on the law stricter or not is a glass half full/empty questions. Lets say the Feds passed a law that stated that an in order to purchase a firearm any firearm you had to pass a background check. But makes no requirements (or mention) for training for the use of any firearms. But because there is no mention of a training requirement. Some states could decide to require training on any firearm, handgun, shotgun, rifle etc. Others states could decide that training is only required for handguns. Others AR15's and so on. Now in regard to dry counties. It is called grandfathering in and in some cases local government yielding to what ever local religion was calling the shots. Although the 21st Amendment repealed nationwide Prohibition in the United States, prohibition under state or local laws is permitted.[2] Prior to and after repeal of nationwide Prohibition, some states passed local option laws granting counties and municipalities, either by popular referendum or local ordinance, the ability to decide for themselves whether to allow alcoholic beverages within their jurisdiction.[3] Many dry communities do not prohibit the consumption of alcohol, which could potentially cause a loss of profits and taxes from the sale of alcohol to their residents in wet (non-prohibition) areas.[ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_county#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%2C%20a,States%2C%20mostly%20in%20the%20South.
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Post by guido2 on Sept 1, 2023 15:13:05 GMT -5
I am ABSOLUTELY sure that the Marijuana lobbyists were shoveling tons of money into various people's pockets. We have nnnneeevvvveeerrr seen anything like this before.... have we? 🙄 Oh wait..... You do all realize that, by basically putting Maryjane into the classification of Advil. The financial implications, investment would be legal, credit cards would be legal. Real Banks could loan money and handle credit card, cash, etc deposits into real accounts. Not faulting what they are doing. But this mirrors, alcohol prohibition. Make a drug illegal, put a lot of people in jail, then make it legal and get the 'tax' revenue after the generous act of allowing people to be........... ahh free. After 'they' get their cut. Same could be said for lotteries and sports betting on line. Just say'n It will require either complete legalization or Congress passing legislation for banks to be able to treat marijuana companies like any other legal business. That’s one of the concerns of the critics of this move. Well that is what this whole thread is about, isn't it? The first step would be moving it to Schedule 3. Which includes a number of drugs such as Testosterone. Yes you need a prescription legally, but, banks can do business with companies that manufacture it.
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Post by guido2 on Sept 1, 2023 15:19:07 GMT -5
It's not legal in VA yet and I smell it at so many places. People just getn high everywhere. *Edit - you can have up to an ounce (without being arrested) but you still can't purchase it recreationally but no worries, DC and MD have us covered. Bet as soon as Biden gets re-elected and the Blue wave hits congress, and especially we see Donnie get perp walked to his new accomidations. The need to get high will go way down. 😉😊
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Post by Jimmy Jazz on Oct 2, 2023 8:14:36 GMT -5
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Post by rocketwolf on Oct 2, 2023 19:18:41 GMT -5
Im glad to see small towns around me (Eastern Shore) saying no to growing processing and selling in town limits.
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Post by Jimmy Jazz on Oct 2, 2023 21:42:34 GMT -5
My village rejected weed stores/vape shops. There are quite a few empty storefronts. Also, there are like 10 wine/liquor stores. Okay then.
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Post by michiganjoe on Oct 5, 2023 10:12:38 GMT -5
Conservatives in my town tried to eliminate all the recreational licenses in the city (it failed spectacularly in a referendum). They cited some vague concerns about crime being raised but the real reason was they simply didn't agree with the change in the law.
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Post by Jimmy Jazz on Oct 5, 2023 10:25:44 GMT -5
Right, that’s exactly what is driving it and I assume it will just take a little time to sort itself out. Like 10-20 years from now when weed stores are as ubiquitous as liquor stores and no one really cares anymore.
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Post by michiganjoe on Apr 30, 2024 12:55:03 GMT -5
Apparently going to Schedule III (long overdue).
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Post by smokey1 on Apr 30, 2024 13:06:19 GMT -5
Im glad to see small towns around me (Eastern Shore) saying no to growing processing and selling in town limits. Maybe in town limits but you have one of the largest production sites in the state in Earleville.
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Post by summer23 on Apr 30, 2024 13:06:26 GMT -5
Kevin Sabet, president and CEO of Smart Approaches to Marijuana and a former Obama Administration advisor, said that the decision to reclassify marijuana is "the result of a politicized process," arguing that it "will be devastating for America’s kids, who will be bombarded with attractive advertising and promotion of kid-friendly pot products."
"The only winner here is the marijuana industry, who will receive a new tax break and thus widen their profit margins," said Sabet. “Reclassifying marijuana as a Schedule III drug sends the message that marijuana is less addictive and dangerous now than ever before. In reality, today’s highly potent, super strength marijuana is more addictive and linked with psychosis and other mental illnesses, IQ loss, and other problems.”
And, possibly laced.
But that's okay. It is an election year.
Before you start, I support legalization.
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Post by soulflower on Apr 30, 2024 13:20:03 GMT -5
Kevin Sabet, president and CEO of Smart Approaches to Marijuana and a former Obama Administration advisor, said that the decision to reclassify marijuana is "the result of a politicized process," arguing that it "will be devastating for America’s kids, who will be bombarded with attractive advertising and promotion of kid-friendly pot products." "The only winner here is the marijuana industry, who will receive a new tax break and thus widen their profit margins," said Sabet. “Reclassifying marijuana as a Schedule III drug sends the message that marijuana is less addictive and dangerous now than ever before. In reality, today’s highly potent, super strength marijuana is more addictive and linked with psychosis and other mental illnesses, IQ loss, and other problems.” And, possibly laced.But that's okay. It is an election year. Before you start, I support legalization. The "possibly laced" thing is an argument in favor of legalization in my opinion. The government can regulate the legal stuff you buy at a dispensary and the sellers have to disclose the specific ingredients on the packaging. The same is not true if you buy illegal drugs on the street. Which makes illegal drugs more risky. Marijuana imho is no more harmful than alcoholic beverages. In fact, it's better than alcohol because there are some health benefits associated with THC.
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Post by ivanbalt on Apr 30, 2024 13:23:30 GMT -5
Marijuana advertising can just follow the lead of the alcohol and gambling industries.
DRINK DRINK DRINK (responsibly)
BET BET BET (responsibly)
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Post by summer23 on Apr 30, 2024 14:09:24 GMT -5
Kevin Sabet, president and CEO of Smart Approaches to Marijuana and a former Obama Administration advisor, said that the decision to reclassify marijuana is "the result of a politicized process," arguing that it "will be devastating for America’s kids, who will be bombarded with attractive advertising and promotion of kid-friendly pot products." "The only winner here is the marijuana industry, who will receive a new tax break and thus widen their profit margins," said Sabet. “Reclassifying marijuana as a Schedule III drug sends the message that marijuana is less addictive and dangerous now than ever before. In reality, today’s highly potent, super strength marijuana is more addictive and linked with psychosis and other mental illnesses, IQ loss, and other problems.” And, possibly laced.But that's okay. It is an election year. Before you start, I support legalization. The "possibly laced" thing is an argument in favor of legalization in my opinion. The government can regulate the legal stuff you buy at a dispensary and the sellers have to disclose the specific ingredients on the packaging. The same is not true if you buy illegal drugs on the street. Which makes illegal drugs more risky. Marijuana imho is no more harmful than alcoholic beverages. In fact, it's better than alcohol because there are some health benefits associated with THC. Okay,
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Post by zenwalk on Apr 30, 2024 14:17:42 GMT -5
Kevin Sabet, president and CEO of Smart Approaches to Marijuana and a former Obama Administration advisor, said that the decision to reclassify marijuana is "the result of a politicized process," arguing that it "will be devastating for America’s kids, who will be bombarded with attractive advertising and promotion of kid-friendly pot products." "The only winner here is the marijuana industry, who will receive a new tax break and thus widen their profit margins," said Sabet. “Reclassifying marijuana as a Schedule III drug sends the message that marijuana is less addictive and dangerous now than ever before. In reality, today’s highly potent, super strength marijuana is more addictive and linked with psychosis and other mental illnesses, IQ loss, and other problems.” And, possibly laced.But that's okay. It is an election year. Before you start, I support legalization. The "possibly laced" thing is an argument in favor of legalization in my opinion. The government can regulate the legal stuff you buy at a dispensary and the sellers have to disclose the specific ingredients on the packaging. The same is not true if you buy illegal drugs on the street. Which makes illegal drugs more risky. Marijuana imho is no more harmful than alcoholic beverages. In fact, it's better than alcohol because there are some health benefits associated with THC. After legalization plus a few months people trend into the dispensaries where there is perfectly safe mj. Private growers see their customer base wither and die. I've been smoking it since 1967 and have never once bumped into laced bud. If you research the possible ways things can get fetal on it you'll find the person is new to it and can't fly the plane yet. As crazy as it sounds my cardiologist wants me to smoke it.
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Post by rocketwolf on Apr 30, 2024 20:03:52 GMT -5
Im glad to see small towns around me (Eastern Shore) saying no to growing processing and selling in town limits. Maybe in town limits but you have one of the largest production sites in the state in Earleville. Quite a ways from me, but if they want it they can have it, it's their lives. Weak people gonna dope themselves up to escape their weakness.
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Post by smokey1 on Apr 30, 2024 22:11:11 GMT -5
Maybe in town limits but you have one of the largest production sites in the state in Earleville. Quite a ways from me, but if they want it they can have it, it's their lives. Weak people gonna dope themselves up to escape their weakness.
That's the way I think about people who drink alcohol.
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Post by michiganjoe on May 1, 2024 1:37:37 GMT -5
Kevin Sabet, president and CEO of Smart Approaches to Marijuana and a former Obama Administration advisor, said that the decision to reclassify marijuana is "the result of a politicized process,"..... He's got it exactly backward- the decision to keep marijuana in Schedule I for all these years was the result of a politicized process.
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Post by rocketwolf on May 1, 2024 6:19:32 GMT -5
Quite a ways from me, but if they want it they can have it, it's their lives. Weak people gonna dope themselves up to escape their weakness.
That's the way I think about people who drink alcohol. I was thinking of both.
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Post by pickle20 on May 1, 2024 9:18:17 GMT -5
Ridiculous it hasn't been legalized nationally.
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Post by Rael on May 1, 2024 9:46:50 GMT -5
But are they? The nature of the Senate is such that the public opinion of the country as a whole is irrelevant. North Dakota for instance has twice voted down ballot initiatives relating to legalization. So why would their Senators be swayed by these arguments? That's why national politics will never get out of the dysfunctional cycle that our country is currently in without a Constitutional Convention. It's amazing that they can't even move on popular policies. It's an antiquated system that seems to be more counterproductive than productive. But that's a different topic. If North Dakota wants to keep their own State prohibition of marijuana, that's their Right but it shouldn't prevent legalization at the Federal level. While I don't disagree with this statement, do you really want to open up a constitutional convention with the current crop of posers and toadies that make up our current political class? It is a catch 22. We need to change our systems so better leaders bubble up to the top but the current leaders are two pitiful to allow them that power.
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Post by Rael on May 1, 2024 9:51:57 GMT -5
Kevin Sabet, president and CEO of Smart Approaches to Marijuana and a former Obama Administration advisor, said that the decision to reclassify marijuana is "the result of a politicized process," arguing that it "will be devastating for America’s kids, who will be bombarded with attractive advertising and promotion of kid-friendly pot products." "The only winner here is the marijuana industry, who will receive a new tax break and thus widen their profit margins," said Sabet. “Reclassifying marijuana as a Schedule III drug sends the message that marijuana is less addictive and dangerous now than ever before. In reality, today’s highly potent, super strength marijuana is more addictive and linked with psychosis and other mental illnesses, IQ loss, and other problems.” And, possibly laced.But that's okay. It is an election year. Before you start, I support legalization. Wouldn't legalization make lacing less likely? I believe most liquor stores don't sell basement moonshine from their uncle's basement because they would lose their liquor license. I feel safer if I go to Far and Dotter than picking it up from an old high school friend. Perhaps I am deluding myself, but it seems there is too much money to be made on legal weed for them to screw it up with unregulated chemical additives.
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Post by soulflower on May 1, 2024 9:53:35 GMT -5
That's why national politics will never get out of the dysfunctional cycle that our country is currently in without a Constitutional Convention. It's amazing that they can't even move on popular policies. It's an antiquated system that seems to be more counterproductive than productive. But that's a different topic. If North Dakota wants to keep their own State prohibition of marijuana, that's their Right but it shouldn't prevent legalization at the Federal level. While I don't disagree with this statement, do you really want to open up a constitutional convention with the current crop of posers and toadies that make up our current political class? It is a catch 22. We need to change our systems so better leaders bubble up to the top but the current leaders are two pitiful to allow them that power. I can't disagree with you on that.
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Post by pickle20 on May 1, 2024 9:57:00 GMT -5
Quite a ways from me, but if they want it they can have it, it's their lives. Weak people gonna dope themselves up to escape their weakness.
That's the way I think about people who drink alcohol. I don't trust people who don't drink. Except to drive me home. I like popping half a gummy AND having a few drinks. Gives me a nice little fuzzy feeling.
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Post by Rael on May 1, 2024 10:30:44 GMT -5
That's the way I think about people who drink alcohol. I don't trust people who don't drink. Except to drive me home. I like popping half a gummy AND having a few drinks. Gives me a nice little fuzzy feeling. Edibles are evil Had a really bad experience on a rice crispy treat baked by a friend. NEVER again.
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Post by smokey1 on May 1, 2024 10:34:41 GMT -5
That's the way I think about people who drink alcohol. I don't trust people who don't drink. Except to drive me home. I like popping half a gummy AND having a few drinks. Gives me a nice little fuzzy feeling. Not that anyone here is saying this but I laugh at the hypocrisy of drinkers who oppose people using weed.
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Post by soulflower on May 1, 2024 10:36:37 GMT -5
I don't trust people who don't drink. Except to drive me home. I like popping half a gummy AND having a few drinks. Gives me a nice little fuzzy feeling. Edibles are evil Had a really bad experience on a rice crispy treat baked by a friend. NEVER again. I had some weird experiences with Space Cookies when I was younger. The high lasts longer than smoking THC. Showed up to work the next morning still buzzed til around noon. Now I only take edibles if I know the strength of dose. How they affect you and how long the high lasts typically depends on how small or large the dosage of THC is.
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Post by summer23 on May 1, 2024 11:53:05 GMT -5
Kevin Sabet, president and CEO of Smart Approaches to Marijuana and a former Obama Administration advisor, said that the decision to reclassify marijuana is "the result of a politicized process," arguing that it "will be devastating for America’s kids, who will be bombarded with attractive advertising and promotion of kid-friendly pot products." "The only winner here is the marijuana industry, who will receive a new tax break and thus widen their profit margins," said Sabet. “Reclassifying marijuana as a Schedule III drug sends the message that marijuana is less addictive and dangerous now than ever before. In reality, today’s highly potent, super strength marijuana is more addictive and linked with psychosis and other mental illnesses, IQ loss, and other problems.” And, possibly laced.But that's okay. It is an election year. Before you start, I support legalization. Wouldn't legalization make lacing less likely? I believe most liquor stores don't sell basement moonshine from their uncle's basement because they would lose their liquor license. I feel safer if I go to Far and Dotter than picking it up from an old high school friend. Perhaps I am deluding myself, but it seems there is too much money to be made on legal weed for them to screw it up with unregulated chemical additives. I don't know.
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Post by Rael on May 1, 2024 12:28:50 GMT -5
Edibles are evil Had a really bad experience on a rice crispy treat baked by a friend. NEVER again. I had some weird experiences with Space Cookies when I was younger. The high lasts longer than smoking THC. Showed up to work the next morning still buzzed til around noon. Now I only take edibles if I know the strength of dose. How they affect you and how long the high lasts typically depends on how small or large the dosage of THC is. Oh, it was Bad. Wondering "if my wife was playing the part of Darlene in the Ozarks" bad. And I have about 45 years of experience with the chemical. Never been there before and don't want to go back.
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Post by pickle20 on May 1, 2024 12:32:46 GMT -5
I don't trust people who don't drink. Except to drive me home. I like popping half a gummy AND having a few drinks. Gives me a nice little fuzzy feeling. Edibles are evil Had a really bad experience on a rice crispy treat baked by a friend. NEVER again. The gummies from the dispensary are strong so I cut them in half and it does the trick. Never had an issue with any cookies, brownies or banana bread made by friends.
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