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Post by augustwest on Feb 15, 2024 13:41:21 GMT -5
www.thebaltimorebanner.com/community/criminal-justice/baltimore-man-gets-3-years-in-federal-prison-for-trafficking-ghost-guns-QCXXQA7ZFVHEHFJLIOAVM74L2Y/A federal judge sentenced a Baltimore man to 3½ years in prison last week for selling ghost guns without a license, according to court records. Mark Ryals, 35, assembled 3D-printed handguns and sold them, along with a silencer, to undercover agents on multiple occasions in the summer of 2021, according to Ryals’ plea agreement. Ryals was prohibited from possessing a firearm because of a protective order against him. Ryals also lacked a federal firearms license, meaning he could not legally sell guns. In July 2021, an officer posing as a customer contacted Ryals wanting to buy firearms. Ryals, according to court records, sold him two Polymer80 handguns along with a silencer — a device that muffles the sound of a gun. Officers made several other undercover purchases, which culminated in an Aug. 12 search of Ryals’ home, where authorities found machinery for assembling the guns, 237 rounds of ammunition, a shotgun with no serial number, several parts for making Polymer80 weapons and high-capacity magazines.
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Post by augustwest on Feb 15, 2024 13:56:43 GMT -5
At least it’s federal time and he’ll actually do the time. But this is the very problem we have with our streets being flooded with illegal weapons. We actually catch the guy with the goods and he’ll be out in 3 1/2 years.
He will out and back in business by the next presidential election.
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Post by pickle20 on Feb 15, 2024 15:23:04 GMT -5
He should be put away for 5 times that amount.
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Post by augustwest on Feb 15, 2024 15:38:26 GMT -5
He should be put away for 5 times that amount. There’s probably no way to trace it. But the guy is has to be responsible for a lot of deaths.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Feb 15, 2024 18:51:22 GMT -5
There’s probably no way to trace it. But the guy is has to be responsible for a lot of deaths. There are two issues here. The shooters are responsible for those deaths. But this guy should go away for a minimum of 20.
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Post by augustwest on Feb 15, 2024 19:12:27 GMT -5
There’s probably no way to trace it. But the guy is has to be responsible for a lot of deaths. There are two issues here. The shooters are responsible for those deaths. But this guy should go away for a minimum of 20. I would support legislation that held anyone involved in an illegal gun sale with any crime committed with said gun. Similar to Felony Murder statutes. If you knowingly sells illegal weapons to criminals you should be criminally liable.
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Post by cowboyz on Feb 16, 2024 8:47:45 GMT -5
I can't read the article but how much time was he facing, those are three serious charges.
Did they give a reason for the light sentencing?
Makes no sense.
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Post by workerbee on Feb 16, 2024 12:37:26 GMT -5
These are the people who need to be made an example of.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Feb 16, 2024 13:58:27 GMT -5
I would support legislation that held anyone involved in an illegal gun sale with any crime committed with said gun. Similar to Felony Murder statutes. If you knowingly sells illegal weapons to criminals you should be criminally liable. So would I. I merely draw a distinction between who is legally responsible and who is actually responsible.
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Post by augustwest on Feb 16, 2024 15:36:36 GMT -5
I would support legislation that held anyone involved in an illegal gun sale with any crime committed with said gun. Similar to Felony Murder statutes. If you knowingly sells illegal weapons to criminals you should be criminally liable. So would I. I merely draw a distinction between who is legally responsible and who is actually responsible. Come to think of it they do this with drug dealers as well.
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Post by palealeman on Feb 16, 2024 16:18:49 GMT -5
At least it’s federal time and he’ll actually do the time. But this is the very problem we have with our streets being flooded with illegal weapons. We actually catch the guy with the goods and he’ll be out in 3 1/2 years. He will out and back in business by the next presidential election. What sentence do you think would be appropriate? Keep in mind that there are Federal sentencing guidelines (I have no idea where this case would fall under the guidelines), he was also sentenced to 3 years probation upon release, and the argument can be made that this is a non-violent offense.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Feb 16, 2024 16:48:40 GMT -5
What sentence do you think would be appropriate? Keep in mind that there are Federal sentencing guidelines (I have no idea where this case would fall under the guidelines), he was also sentenced to 3 years probation upon release, and the argument can be made that this is a non-violent offense. Let's say five years per firearm sold, served consecutively. It is a violent offense, since the man's product is used to commit violence, opine I.
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Post by augustwest on Feb 16, 2024 17:59:57 GMT -5
At least it’s federal time and he’ll actually do the time. But this is the very problem we have with our streets being flooded with illegal weapons. We actually catch the guy with the goods and he’ll be out in 3 1/2 years. He will out and back in business by the next presidential election. What sentence do you think would be appropriate? Keep in mind that there are Federal sentencing guidelines (I have no idea where this case would fall under the guidelines), he was also sentenced to 3 years probation upon release, and the argument can be made that this is a non-violent offense. Life in prison.
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Post by palealeman on Feb 17, 2024 11:58:08 GMT -5
What sentence do you think would be appropriate? Keep in mind that there are Federal sentencing guidelines (I have no idea where this case would fall under the guidelines), he was also sentenced to 3 years probation upon release, and the argument can be made that this is a non-violent offense. Let's say five years per firearm sold, served consecutively. It is a violent offense, since the man's product is used to commit violence, opine I. Wow. Of course, if he's an unlicensed dealer, there are no records to determine just how many weapons he's sold. Selling something is not a violent offense. Violent offenses involve harm to someone else. He's not directly causing harm. But I understand your opinion. I just disagree.
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Post by palealeman on Feb 17, 2024 12:00:16 GMT -5
What sentence do you think would be appropriate? Keep in mind that there are Federal sentencing guidelines (I have no idea where this case would fall under the guidelines), he was also sentenced to 3 years probation upon release, and the argument can be made that this is a non-violent offense. Life in prison. Whoa! You remind me of my father (RIP). His sentence for anything was death. Murder? Shoot them. Rape? Shoot them. Shoplifting? Shoot them. Possession of marijuana? Shoot them. Life sounds a little severe here.
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Post by augustwest on Feb 17, 2024 12:48:09 GMT -5
Whoa! You remind me of my father (RIP). His sentence for anything was death. Murder? Shoot them. Rape? Shoot them. Shoplifting? Shoot them. Possession of marijuana? Shoot them. Life sounds a little severe here. Selling illegal untraceable guns? That’s really about as bad as it gets short of murder and rape.
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Post by palealeman on Feb 17, 2024 14:58:04 GMT -5
Whoa! You remind me of my father (RIP). His sentence for anything was death. Murder? Shoot them. Rape? Shoot them. Shoplifting? Shoot them. Possession of marijuana? Shoot them. Life sounds a little severe here. Selling illegal untraceable guns? That’s really about as bad as it gets short of murder and rape. I hear what you're saying. I just disagree. With prison beds costing about $50,000 a year, I'd prefer to keep them for violent criminals. I agree that a prison sentence is warranted. I think life is a little bit too long.
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Post by augustwest on Feb 17, 2024 16:30:51 GMT -5
Selling illegal untraceable guns? That’s really about as bad as it gets short of murder and rape. I hear what you're saying. I just disagree. With prison beds costing about $50,000 a year, I'd prefer to keep them for violent criminals. I agree that a prison sentence is warranted. I think life is a little bit too long. It’s quite a profitable crime. With just three years as the penalty it seems like a great business to get into
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Post by Evil Yoda on Feb 17, 2024 16:37:36 GMT -5
Let's say five years per firearm sold, served consecutively. It is a violent offense, since the man's product is used to commit violence, opine I. Wow. Of course, if he's an unlicensed dealer, there are no records to determine just how many weapons he's sold. Selling something is not a violent offense. Violent offenses involve harm to someone else. He's not directly causing harm. But I understand your opinion. I just disagree. I find crimes such as this, which... okay, I'll pull out an en vogue term and call it "violence adjacent"... odious. And wish to discourage emulators. So... harsh sentence. I stop short of capital punishment, but for certain crimes, like premeditated murder, I'm okay tossing the convict in a 6 x 10 forever. Slide in meals a few times a day, take him out for exercise and a shower a few times a week, until he dies.
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Post by augustwest on Feb 17, 2024 17:20:28 GMT -5
Selling illegal untraceable guns? That’s really about as bad as it gets short of murder and rape. I hear what you're saying. I just disagree. With prison beds costing about $50,000 a year, I'd prefer to keep them for violent criminals. I agree that a prison sentence is warranted. I think life is a little bit too long. He was in the violent crime industry
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Post by palealeman on Feb 17, 2024 17:35:10 GMT -5
I hear what you're saying. I just disagree. With prison beds costing about $50,000 a year, I'd prefer to keep them for violent criminals. I agree that a prison sentence is warranted. I think life is a little bit too long. He was in the violent crime industry A lot of people would disagree with that statement.
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Post by augustwest on Feb 17, 2024 19:22:51 GMT -5
He was in the violent crime industry A lot of people would disagree with that statement. Well, there are a lot of idiots
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Post by guido2 on Feb 17, 2024 19:30:02 GMT -5
Whoa! You remind me of my father (RIP). His sentence for anything was death. Murder? Shoot them. Rape? Shoot them. Shoplifting? Shoot them. Possession of marijuana? Shoot them. Life sounds a little severe here. I have to admit that up to the shoplifting part. Murder/rape shoot or whatever, them fine. Now shoplifting, well yeah, maybe that is the one thing the ME has right about how to prevent further crime..... at least on that one. Gallow's humor here gang!!
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Post by guido2 on Feb 17, 2024 19:30:56 GMT -5
A lot of people would disagree with that statement. Well, there are a lot of idiots As we find daily, ohhh wait, every minute, ohhh wait...............
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Post by vosa on Feb 18, 2024 15:24:43 GMT -5
I put the blame for this kind of crap on the MD GA.
Those clowns can't even pass legislation that makes possession of a stolen gun a felony.
I agree with EY - Oh, the humanity - a 6 x 10 forever. Slide in meals a few times a day, take him out for exercise and a shower a few times a week, until he dies. No books, no radio, no TV, no internet, nothing. Stare at the walls 24/7.
That should help bring down the $50,000 tab.
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Post by pickle20 on Feb 18, 2024 17:47:05 GMT -5
I put the blame for this kind of crap on the MD GA. Those clowns can't even pass legislation that makes possession of a stolen gun a felony. I agree with EY - Oh, the humanity - a 6 x 10 forever. Slide in meals a few times a day, take him out for exercise and a shower a few times a week, until he dies. No books, no radio, no TV, no internet, nothing. Stare at the walls 24/7. That should help bring down the $50,000 tab. This was a federal case.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Feb 20, 2024 15:11:09 GMT -5
He was in the violent crime industry A lot of people would disagree with that statement. Those people would be wrong.
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Post by augustwest on Feb 23, 2024 15:45:56 GMT -5
He was in the violent crime industry A lot of people would disagree with that statement. The streets of Baltimore are flooded with these cheap untraceable guns. www.thebaltimorebanner.com/community/criminal-justice/ghost-gun-data-baltimore-maryland-Y3VI4BRS7ZE5BI3IRXRRTA3EHI/All three were, for either age or another disqualifying reason, prohibited from owning handguns. Yet all of them did, a testament to the pervasiveness of easy-to-obtain, virtually impossible-to-trace handguns that have become the firearm du jour in Baltimore’s illicit gun market. Guns made out of parts from Polymer80, one of the largest manufacturers of ghost gun parts nationwide, are the most commonly recovered firearm in the city, more than other well-known brands such as Glock and Taurus, according to a Baltimore Banner analysis of 2 1/2 years of police gun recovery data. Known as ghost guns because they lack serial numbers, which makes them untraceable by design, the homemade weapons are being carried and used throughout Baltimore and other American cities. Police here say the guns are most commonly carried by people under 30 and the department logged more than 1,200 into evidence from June 2021 through 2023 — about 20% of all guns recovered.
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Post by augustwest on Feb 23, 2024 15:47:27 GMT -5
With relatively minor jail time as the only risk to the gun builders and dealers you can bet this is about to get much worse.
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