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Post by Evil Yoda on Apr 26, 2024 20:05:58 GMT -5
Pray tell, why would anyone expect him to not caucus with the Republican Party? Do you think he is going to caucus with the Democrats? That makes absolutely no sense. And if he is in anyway going to effect change in the Republican Party, is someone naive enough to think that will occur from outside the Republican Party? I don't know how to tell you guys this in a gentle manner, but "Mister Smith goes to Washington" was fiction. He won't change a gd thing. The Whip will explain to him that the party tells the Senator what to do and not the other way 'round. And he'll do it: carry water for Trump. It is fanciful thinking that anyone can change the GOP now. It is ruined. Mayyyybe after Trump dies? But given the large number of despicable characters who have the enthusiastic support of their constituents (judging by the fact they get re-elected), I doubt it.
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Post by ishmael on Apr 26, 2024 20:17:32 GMT -5
Pray tell, why would anyone expect him to not caucus with the Republican Party? Do you think he is going to caucus with the Democrats? That makes absolutely no sense. And if he is in anyway going to effect change in the Republican Party, is someone naive enough to think that will occur from outside the Republican Party? I don't know how to tell you guys this in a gentle manner, but "Mister Smith goes to Washington" was fiction. He won't change a gd thing. The Whip will explain to him that the party tells the Senator what to do and not the other way 'round. And he'll do it: carry water for Trump. It is fanciful thinking that anyone can change the GOP now. It is ruined. Mayyyybe after Trump dies? But given the large number of despicable characters who have the enthusiastic support of their constituents (judging by the fact they get re-elected), I doubt it. Ah! I see now. No (D) after his name, so he must be evil. Got it.
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Post by soulflower on Apr 27, 2024 7:40:26 GMT -5
I really liked Hogan as governor but can’t vote for him to be in the Senate Why not? Because he could help the GOP gain a majority in the Senate. Something I’m not in favor of.
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Post by mrsmlh on Apr 27, 2024 7:41:52 GMT -5
He won't change a gd thing. The Whip will explain to him that the party tells the Senator what to do and not the other way 'round. And he'll do it: carry water for Trump. It is fanciful thinking that anyone can change the GOP now. It is ruined. Mayyyybe after Trump dies? But given the large number of despicable characters who have the enthusiastic support of their constituents (judging by the fact they get re-elected), I doubt it. Ah! I see now. No (D) after his name, so he must be evil. Got it. And if he had a (D) after his name, you would claim that he is evil so it evens out
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Post by ishmael on Apr 27, 2024 7:51:11 GMT -5
Ah! I see now. No (D) after his name, so he must be evil. Got it. And if he had a (D) after his name, you would claim that he is evil so it evens out Not even close, but hey, it's important that you keep your imagination active.
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Post by mrsmlh on Apr 27, 2024 9:48:35 GMT -5
And if he had a (D) after his name, you would claim that he is evil so it evens out Not even close, but hey, it's important that you keep your imagination active. How many D's have you voted for?
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Post by Evil Yoda on Apr 27, 2024 10:03:56 GMT -5
He won't change a gd thing. The Whip will explain to him that the party tells the Senator what to do and not the other way 'round. And he'll do it: carry water for Trump. It is fanciful thinking that anyone can change the GOP now. It is ruined. Mayyyybe after Trump dies? But given the large number of despicable characters who have the enthusiastic support of their constituents (judging by the fact they get re-elected), I doubt it. Ah! I see now. No (D) after his name, so he must be evil. Got it. Not evil. Just not able to do what you hope he will, because he's one voice in a thoroughly corrupt and debased party. And that's IF he cares to try to change things. That's far from certain. If you can't see that the GOP was heavily damaged by the President-Reject and has not recovered - look more closely.
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Post by ishmael on Apr 27, 2024 10:15:54 GMT -5
Not even close, but hey, it's important that you keep your imagination active. How many D's have you voted for? Bill Clinton's 2nd term, believe it or not, though not his first. Almost went Perot, but chickened out when I was in the voting booth.
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Post by vosa on Apr 27, 2024 15:34:34 GMT -5
Ah! I see now. No (D) after his name, so he must be evil. Got it. Not evil. Just not able to do what you hope he will, because he's one voice in a thoroughly corrupt and debased party. And that's IF he cares to try to change things. That's far from certain. If you can't see that the GOP was heavily damaged by the President-Reject and has not recovered - look more closely. As with claims of lying I always have to laugh when a Biden apologist brings up corruption and debasement. Ronald Blackley (D) Chief of Staff to the Secretary of Agriculture Mike Espy, was sentenced to 27 months for perjury in a case involving improper gifts that also included Espy David Watkins (D) Director of the Office of Administration used the White House helicopter, Marine One, to fly to a nearby golf course for an afternoon game. Ostensibly to check out security issues, Watkins later admitted it was just to play golf and resigned. Darleen A. Druyun (D), Principal Deputy United States Under Secretary of the Air Force.[408] She pleaded guilty to inflating the price of contracts to favor her future employer, Boeing. Austin Murphy (D-PA) was convicted of engaging in voter fraud for filling out absentee ballots for members of a nursing home. Nicholas Mavroules (D-MA) pleaded guilty to bribery charges. Carl C. Perkins (D-KY) pleaded guilty to a check-kiting scheme involving several financial institutions (including the House Bank). Carroll Hubbard (D-KY) was convicted of illegally funneling money to his wife's 1992 campaign to succeed him in congress. Mary Rose Oakar (D-OH) was charged with seven felonies, but pleaded guilty only to a misdemeanor campaign finance charge not related to the House Bank. And under your boy Joe Biden… Sam Brinton (D) the Deputy Assistant Secretary for Spent Fuel and Waste Disposition in the Department of Energy, Office of Nuclear Energy, was twice accused of stealing luggage from airports after they allegedly lifted a bag from Harry Reid International Airport in Las Vegas Eric Lander (D) Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy a cabinet level position. Lander was accused by several of his staff of bullying, demeaning behavior, and insulting and embarrassing staff. The allegations were investigated and Lander was reprimanded. On February 7, 2022, he submitted his resignation. Tyler Joseph "TJ" Ducklo (D) Deputy Press Secretary. Vanity Fair reported that Ducklo threatened Politico reporter Tara Palmeri, telling her that he would "destroy her" if she published a story about his relationship with Axios reporter Alexi McCammond.[916] On February 12, 2021, Ducklo was suspended without pay for one week. He then apologized, and resigned the next day. A full list including (D)s and (R)s going back to 1777 can be found here.So go sell your bias corruption and debasement claims elsewhere.
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Post by rocketwolf on Apr 27, 2024 19:37:22 GMT -5
Frosh is extremely liberal but not unhinged. That's going to drive his disinterest in seeing Hogan elected. My disinterest in seeing that is that Hogan will be one more pro-Trump voice, because that's what the GOP is, now: Trump's creature. I don't think so. But then I'm a crappy mind reader too. At this point in the MD Repub primary Hogan is the lessor of the evils running against him. If Hogan loses the primary I'll have to decide to vote Dem or leave that ballot blank. However I will not vote for Trone that rich SOB can pound sand!
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Post by rocketwolf on Apr 27, 2024 19:42:51 GMT -5
Pray tell, why would anyone expect him to not caucus with the Republican Party? Do you think he is going to caucus with the Democrats? That makes absolutely no sense. And if he is in anyway going to effect change in the Republican Party, is someone naive enough to think that will occur from outside the Republican Party? I don't know how to tell you guys this in a gentle manner, but "Mister Smith goes to Washington" was fiction. He won't change a gd thing. The Whip will explain to him that the party tells the Senator what to do and not the other way 'round. And he'll do it: carry water for Trump. It is fanciful thinking that anyone can change the GOP now. It is ruined. Mayyyybe after Trump dies? But given the large number of despicable characters who have the enthusiastic support of their constituents (judging by the fact they get re-elected), I doubt it. You are missing the point that Hogan and others like him if elected can start a move back to sanity for the GOP. I'd like to see it, this country without 2 viable "sensible" parties may not survive as a democracy.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Apr 28, 2024 10:18:06 GMT -5
You are missing the point that Hogan and others like him if elected can start a move back to sanity for the GOP. I'd like to see it, this country without 2 viable "sensible" parties may not survive as a democracy. I haven't missed that as a possibility. But the GOP is so steeped in Trump right now I don't see it as particularly likely. I must be brutal here: the GOP must pass through a period of electoral adversity, losing many elections, so that its leadership is forced to oust Trump. And so far, that leadership has passed on a number of opportunities to do that, so I don't think it's anywhere close to doing that. I am not sure it will happen this side of Trump's passing, and that might be years off.
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Post by msmaggie on Apr 28, 2024 10:34:55 GMT -5
PA Casey/McCormick race interesting. Casey ahead in polls but too early to tell.
Surprised by ads. Casey's are good. Standard what I've done for state stuff. McCormick's leave me cold. All about him. Hasten to say only my POV. I do wonder if the Oz/carpetbagger stuff might be echoing here a bit.
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Post by Rael on Apr 29, 2024 15:50:43 GMT -5
It's actually from someone named Dan Rodricks. Rodricks is worse.
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Post by Rael on Apr 29, 2024 15:53:48 GMT -5
You are missing the point that Hogan and others like him if elected can start a move back to sanity for the GOP. I'd like to see it, this country without 2 viable "sensible" parties may not survive as a democracy. I haven't missed that as a possibility. But the GOP is so steeped in Trump right now I don't see it as particularly likely. I must be brutal here: the GOP must pass through a period of electoral adversity, losing many elections, so that its leadership is forced to oust Trump. And so far, that leadership has passed on a number of opportunities to do that, so I don't think it's anywhere close to doing that. I am not sure it will happen this side of Trump's passing, and that might be years off. Yes, but anything other than a sane second party spells trouble for the country. Anything that helps point a second party back to sanity has my vote. Trump will be dead in ten years. Will the Republican party die with him or move past him? For the sake of the country, I pray it is the latter.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Apr 29, 2024 18:01:34 GMT -5
Yes, but anything other than a sane second party spells trouble for the country. Anything that helps point a second party back to sanity has my vote. Trump will be dead in ten years. Will the Republican party die with him or move past him? For the sake of the country, I pray it is the latter. When Trump dies I will see what effect that has on the GOP. Or if before then, it fixes itself by repudiating Trump *completely*. I do not expect the latter. They could get my vote then, assuming I am still able to cast it! Until then... I refuse to enable them as Trumpists. Anyone who truly wants Trump out must do likewise. Voting GOP is essentially endorsing what it is, now.
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