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Post by mrsmlh on Apr 28, 2024 18:29:13 GMT -5
My SIL had a farm with working dogs. If a dog was untrainable such as Noem's was, my SIL would find another home for the dog, not shoot it. She had a goat who also liked to head butt people including her children and nibble on my long hair when I would visit. My SIL put him in a pen when people where around and eventually found him another home. She did not shoot it. The same with her horses.
People can make all the excuses they want for her behavior but shooting those animals was not necessary.
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Post by vosa on Apr 28, 2024 18:40:55 GMT -5
I'm glad your animal is still with you, but is your dog a pet or a working animal? Just about every dog worthy of being called a dog will go after a squirrel. This dog went after, caught and killed multiple chickens and then turned on its master. This dogs "work" was to identify birds, without disturbing them, so the pheasants could be hunted. Apparently, the dog just wasn't tempered appropriately for that job. Wire-haired pointers are known for being erratic and aggressive around smaller animals and it appears, this dog bent that way. That’s no reason to shoot a dog. The woman is obviously not capable of training a dog Really?
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Post by JoyinMudville on Apr 28, 2024 19:25:23 GMT -5
That’s no reason to shoot a dog. The woman is obviously not capable of training a dog Really? What does that have to do with this? Nothing. I don't care how much you trust your dog, or your child, you don't leave very young children alone with dogs as this person found out the hard way. Even if you are there, you need to pay attention because it only takes one snap or a swipe of the paw to do severe and lifelong damage. If the governor was concerned about the dog and the safety of her children there are crates or even a leash and then she should find someone else who can take the animal and train it properly.
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Post by JoyinMudville on Apr 28, 2024 19:56:29 GMT -5
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Post by msmaggie on Apr 28, 2024 20:34:13 GMT -5
This is the same gem who refused to cancel that big motorcycle rally in SD in 2020. With the predictable results.
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Post by JoyinMudville on Apr 28, 2024 21:08:19 GMT -5
This is the same gem who refused to cancel that big motorcycle rally in SD in 2000. With the predictable results. What's also predictable is the pattern... A MAGA or GOP star does something reprehensible, and usual suspects end up degrading themselves in their efforts to down play or rationalize it.
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Post by summer23 on Apr 28, 2024 21:15:46 GMT -5
This is the same gem who refused to cancel that big motorcycle rally in SD in 2000. With the predictable results. The sister of my best friend since high school (and also a friend of mine) went to Sturgis that year. Yes, she became ill, and no, she still has still not received the vaccinations. We definitely had a bit of a row over her decisions but as she reminded me, she is an adult. Indeed. And also, she had recently retired from the Air Force and would have been forced to get vaccinated.
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Post by msmaggie on Apr 28, 2024 22:56:31 GMT -5
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Post by zenwalk on Apr 29, 2024 1:47:04 GMT -5
Maybe she's not adapting well to her veneers. What an idiot. Let's not make her any more dangerous than she already is. We should be grateful the imbeciles are making themselves so easy to spot.
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Post by cowboyz on Apr 29, 2024 7:46:58 GMT -5
I don't think what she did is uncommon when you live on a farm or ranch.
Glad I wasn't brought up in that life, I'm not sure I could handle it.
It's never easy to hear these stories but it happens all the time.
Maybe she thought it best to share the story since there were witnesses to these shootings.
This story appears to be making her out to be a monster and I don't think that is the case. It's a good thing yall don't live on a farm or ranch.
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Post by summer23 on Apr 29, 2024 8:20:08 GMT -5
You can be as sarcastic as you please, but she was the problem here, not the dog. Not the goat. Not the horses. She clearly thinks she is hot stuff. She is a creep. And, yes, I would say the same if she was a man. She is 100% anti-abortion and 1000% a heartless jerk. Her stand on abortion has nothing to do with the story. She may well be very cold, as heartless is not possible. That said, the dog and the goat and the horses were most certainly the problem. Most certainly is possible. Heartless: adjective. unfeeling; unkind; unsympathetic; harsh; cruel: heartless words; a heartless ruler. Archaic. lacking courage or enthusiasm; spiritless; disheartened.
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Post by summer23 on Apr 29, 2024 8:28:51 GMT -5
I don't think what she did is uncommon when you live on a farm or ranch. Glad I wasn't brought up in that life, I'm not sure I could handle it. It's never easy to hear these stories but it happens all the time. Maybe she thought it best to share the story since there were witnesses to these shootings. This story appears to be making her out to be a monster and I don't think that is the case. It's a good thing yall don't live on a farm or ranch. She wrote about it in a book to flex. Dogs need to be trained to be a hunting dog. She failed. The dog suffered. Nothing to do with farming. Don't want to argue with you. We can agree to disagree.
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Post by cowboyz on Apr 29, 2024 8:32:40 GMT -5
I don't think what she did is uncommon when you live on a farm or ranch. Glad I wasn't brought up in that life, I'm not sure I could handle it. It's never easy to hear these stories but it happens all the time. Maybe she thought it best to share the story since there were witnesses to these shootings. This story appears to be making her out to be a monster and I don't think that is the case. It's a good thing yall don't live on a farm or ranch. She wrote about it in a book to flex. Dogs need to be trained to be a hunting dog. She failed. The dog suffered. Nothing to do with farming. Don't want to argue with you. We can agree to disagree. Yes, we can disagree. I agree. FWIW... I didn't say that I support what she did. I'm just saying, it's not uncommon in the farming or ranching life.
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Post by summer23 on Apr 29, 2024 8:33:27 GMT -5
She wrote about it in a book to flex. Dogs need to be trained to be a hunting dog. She failed. The dog suffered. Nothing to do with farming. Don't want to argue with you. We can agree to disagree. Yes, we can disagree. I agree. FWIW... I didn't say that I support what she did. I'm just saying, it's not uncommon in the farming or ranching life. It was about hunting; not farming. Not ranching.
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Post by summer23 on Apr 29, 2024 8:37:18 GMT -5
“Everything this dog did I have seen many times and they have the potential to become some of the best hunting dogs and family companions out there,” Jeff Miller, owner of Dakota Pro Wirehairs said. “They just need proper training, appropriate boundaries set and patience as they learn to control their prey drive. “Any breeder would have been glad to take it back as this was a puppy yet, and in my opinion just had a lot of prey drive that needed tuning. I can tell you that it was heartbreaking to hear that story, for sure!” Cole Jensen of Badlands Kennel said wirehaired pointers are known as the most aggressive of the hunting breeds, “but I find it very unlikely that she wouldn’t have known that before bringing one home.” “It sounds like this dog was just not trained properly—it’s a common problem that any trainer worth his salt can help with,” he said. Katherine Jacobson, president of the Rapid City Kennel Club, had this to say about Cricket-gate: “Good luck, I hope her political career is over.” The Cricket episode did not put Noem off pet ownership. She had another hunting dog, a Vizsla named Hazel, who died after an accident in 2022. “My heart is broken,” Noem wrote of Hazel at the time. “She was more than a dog to me, she was a dear dear friend.” www.thedailybeast.com/kristi-noem-stop-making-excuses-about-killing-cricketExactly.
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Post by soulflower on Apr 29, 2024 8:43:41 GMT -5
It will probably be Elise Stefanik or Tim Scott after this controversy
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Post by msmaggie on Apr 29, 2024 8:51:43 GMT -5
“Everything this dog did I have seen many times and they have the potential to become some of the best hunting dogs and family companions out there,” Jeff Miller, owner of Dakota Pro Wirehairs said. “They just need proper training, appropriate boundaries set and patience as they learn to control their prey drive. “Any breeder would have been glad to take it back as this was a puppy yet, and in my opinion just had a lot of prey drive that needed tuning. I can tell you that it was heartbreaking to hear that story, for sure!” Cole Jensen of Badlands Kennel said wirehaired pointers are known as the most aggressive of the hunting breeds, “but I find it very unlikely that she wouldn’t have known that before bringing one home.” “It sounds like this dog was just not trained properly—it’s a common problem that any trainer worth his salt can help with,” he said. Katherine Jacobson, president of the Rapid City Kennel Club, had this to say about Cricket-gate: “Good luck, I hope her political career is over.” The Cricket episode did not put Noem off pet ownership. She had another hunting dog, a Vizsla named Hazel, who died after an accident in 2022. “My heart is broken,” Noem wrote of Hazel at the time. “She was more than a dog to me, she was a dear dear friend.” www.thedailybeast.com/kristi-noem-stop-making-excuses-about-killing-cricketExactly. Dogs are like kids. You see a toddler constantly misbehaving (they all misbehave from time to time) who do you blame? Have a friend who owns a large daycare facility. Says 95% of the time when a sibling of a current or past student enrolls her staff can broadly predict their behavior. Meaning if child 1 had behavioral issues, 2 almost guaranteed to have the same. Thankfully it's illegal to shoot kids and dump them in a gravel pit.
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Post by msmaggie on Apr 29, 2024 8:53:35 GMT -5
It will probably be Elise Stefanik or Tim Scott after this controversy A sycophant contest. Should be inspirational.
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Post by vosa on Apr 29, 2024 8:54:28 GMT -5
I don't think what she did is uncommon when you live on a farm or ranch. Glad I wasn't brought up in that life, I'm not sure I could handle it. It's never easy to hear these stories but it happens all the time. Maybe she thought it best to share the story since there were witnesses to these shootings. This story appears to be making her out to be a monster and I don't think that is the case. It's a good thing yall don't live on a farm or ranch. You're talking sanity and reality to the unhinged. All these people saw was "(R)" and "possible VP pick" and their knee jerk fit of high dudgeon kicked in. Pavlov would recognize these folks immediately and say "I told you so". So far this year 804 children have been gunned down in schools, grades K-12. but the unbalanced folks here don't post about it because in most cases the political affiliation of the perp is not reported.
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Post by soulflower on Apr 29, 2024 8:58:46 GMT -5
It will probably be Elise Stefanik or Tim Scott after this controversy A sycophant contest. Should be inspirational. Do you expect him to choose Nikki Haley?
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Post by msmaggie on Apr 29, 2024 9:02:21 GMT -5
A sycophant contest. Should be inspirational. Do you expect him to choose Nikki Haley? No. That's the whole pool huh. Shame.
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Post by JoyinMudville on Apr 29, 2024 9:25:26 GMT -5
“Everything this dog did I have seen many times and they have the potential to become some of the best hunting dogs and family companions out there,” Jeff Miller, owner of Dakota Pro Wirehairs said. “They just need proper training, appropriate boundaries set and patience as they learn to control their prey drive. “Any breeder would have been glad to take it back as this was a puppy yet, and in my opinion just had a lot of prey drive that needed tuning. I can tell you that it was heartbreaking to hear that story, for sure!” Cole Jensen of Badlands Kennel said wirehaired pointers are known as the most aggressive of the hunting breeds, “but I find it very unlikely that she wouldn’t have known that before bringing one home.” “It sounds like this dog was just not trained properly—it’s a common problem that any trainer worth his salt can help with,” he said. Katherine Jacobson, president of the Rapid City Kennel Club, had this to say about Cricket-gate: “Good luck, I hope her political career is over.” The Cricket episode did not put Noem off pet ownership. She had another hunting dog, a Vizsla named Hazel, who died after an accident in 2022. “My heart is broken,” Noem wrote of Hazel at the time. “She was more than a dog to me, she was a dear dear friend.” www.thedailybeast.com/kristi-noem-stop-making-excuses-about-killing-cricketExactly. Yeap
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Post by JoyinMudville on Apr 29, 2024 9:27:45 GMT -5
I don't think what she did is uncommon when you live on a farm or ranch. Glad I wasn't brought up in that life, I'm not sure I could handle it. It's never easy to hear these stories but it happens all the time. Maybe she thought it best to share the story since there were witnesses to these shootings. This story appears to be making her out to be a monster and I don't think that is the case. It's a good thing yall don't live on a farm or ranch. You're talking sanity and reality to the unhinged. All these people saw was "(R)" and "possible VP pick" and their knee jerk fit of high dudgeon kicked in. Pavlov would recognize these folks immediately and say "I told you so". So far this year 804 children have been gunned down in schools, grades K-12. but the unbalanced folks here don't post about it because in most cases the political affiliation of the perp is not reported. The Trumpist was widely viewed as a potential VP pick. As for the rest of your post. A lot of people here, myself included, believe we need sane gun control laws and we discuss it all the time.
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Post by alienrace on Apr 29, 2024 9:29:46 GMT -5
A lot of people here, myself included, believe we need sane gun control laws and we discuss it all the time. Many people here also agree we need sane gun control laws. The problem is your side generally doesn't understand anything about guns and proves it constantly.
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Post by msmaggie on Apr 29, 2024 9:35:55 GMT -5
A lot of people here, myself included, believe we need sane gun control laws and we discuss it all the time. Many people here also agree we need sane gun control laws. The problem is your side generally doesn't understand anything about guns and proves it constantly. This is such a nonsense argument. I don't know much about cars but support speed limits. And passing a test before getting licensed. I know next to nothing about how lead poisoning works but don't want it in paint. I understand the results of our gun policies. You can too. Look up gun fatalities in US vs like nations.
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Post by smokey1 on Apr 29, 2024 9:38:10 GMT -5
Many people here also agree we need sane gun control laws. The problem is your side generally doesn't understand anything about guns and proves it constantly. This is such a nonsense argument. I don't know much about cars but support speed limits. I know next to nothing about how lead poisoning works but don't want it in paint. I understand the results of our gun policies. You can too. Look up gun fatalities in US vs like nations. You don't have to know anything about guns when you just want to ban them all.
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Post by msmaggie on Apr 29, 2024 9:43:36 GMT -5
This is such a nonsense argument. I don't know much about cars but support speed limits. I know next to nothing about how lead poisoning works but don't want it in paint. I understand the results of our gun policies. You can too. Look up gun fatalities in US vs like nations. You don't have to know anything about guns when you just want to ban them all. I would settle for pre Heller interpretation of Constitution.
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Post by smokey1 on Apr 29, 2024 9:47:22 GMT -5
You don't have to know anything about guns when you just want to ban them all. I would settle for pre Heller interpretation of Constitution. Which pre Heller "interpretation" are you referring to? Didn't Heller confirm the individual right to bear arms? You don't believe in that?
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Post by msmaggie on Apr 29, 2024 9:58:02 GMT -5
I would settle for pre Heller interpretation of Constitution. Which pre Heller "interpretation" are you referring to? Didn't Heller confirm the individual right to bear arms? You don't believe in that? The interpretation that had been in effect for over 200 years. That the Constitution protects the collective right. Beyond that states and local governments should be able to legislate gun laws that reflect the will of the people.
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Post by vosa on Apr 29, 2024 10:04:10 GMT -5
You're talking sanity and reality to the unhinged. All these people saw was "(R)" and "possible VP pick" and their knee jerk fit of high dudgeon kicked in. Pavlov would recognize these folks immediately and say "I told you so". So far this year 804 children have been gunned down in schools, grades K-12. but the unbalanced folks here don't post about it because in most cases the political affiliation of the perp is not reported. The Trumpist was widely viewed as a potential VP pick. As for the rest of your post. A lot of people here, myself included, believe we need sane gun control laws and we discuss it all the time. Widely viewed as a potential VP pick by whom.
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