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Post by JoyinMudville on Apr 28, 2024 2:48:29 GMT -5
The entire GOP has lost it's mind.
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Post by ishmael on Apr 28, 2024 6:41:55 GMT -5
The entire GOP has lost it's mind. I've heard of broad brushes before, but you paint 35M fellow citizens with the brush of one person's actions.
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Post by msmaggie on Apr 28, 2024 7:06:00 GMT -5
Here's the thing: what would possess her to include this in her book? Jawdroppingly stupidity.
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Post by summer23 on Apr 28, 2024 8:02:59 GMT -5
Here's the thing: what would possess her to include this in her book? Jawdroppingly stupidity. I can't decide if it's better for these crazies to reveal themselves or try to hide who they are and what they have done. I prefer that they out themselves. I don't know many people who would celebrate this stuff. Actually, I know know no one who would. I just read more about her. "Meth. We're on It" campaign. OMG. Refusal to mandate masking during the pandemic. So many other things. She really is an awful person.
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Post by upstream on Apr 28, 2024 8:41:10 GMT -5
Here's the thing: what would possess her to include this in her book? Jawdroppingly stupidity. I think she was trying to show how difficult things “had to be done” and she’s a woman willing to do “what has to be done”. Maybe that’ll culminate into her eventually putting down Donald.
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Post by msmaggie on Apr 28, 2024 8:42:48 GMT -5
Here's the thing: what would possess her to include this in her book? Jawdroppingly stupidity. I think she was trying to show how difficult things “had to be done” and she’s a woman willing to do “what has to be done”. Maybe that’ll culminate into her eventually putting down Donald. At least the shock collar...
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Post by summer23 on Apr 28, 2024 8:54:47 GMT -5
Here's the thing: what would possess her to include this in her book? Jawdroppingly stupidity. I think she was trying to show how difficult things “had to be done” and she’s a woman willing to do “what has to be done”. Maybe that’ll culminate into her eventually putting down Donald. I agree. Then she went on shooting spree and killed a goat (or more) and now three horses have been put down. I assume by a firearm. I unfortunately saw this happen at Pimilico one time. It is awful.
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Post by msmaggie on Apr 28, 2024 9:16:35 GMT -5
I think she was trying to show how difficult things “had to be done” and she’s a woman willing to do “what has to be done”. Maybe that’ll culminate into her eventually putting down Donald. I agree. Then she went on shooting spree and killed a goat (or more) and now three horses have been put down. I assume by a firearm. I unfortunately saw this happen at Pimilico on time. It is awful. Oh boy. I can just imagine. Still can't get my head around her having so little grasp on how this would repulse people.
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Post by upstream on Apr 28, 2024 9:20:28 GMT -5
I agree. Then she went on shooting spree and killed a goat (or more) and now three horses have been put down. I assume by a firearm. I unfortunately saw this happen at Pimilico on time. It is awful. Oh boy. I can just imagine. Still can't get my head around her having so little grasp on how this would repulse people. Right. You don’t talk about killing dogs in the US. My fur baby is in here snoring now. I couldn’t imagine…
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Post by smokey1 on Apr 28, 2024 9:21:27 GMT -5
Here's the thing: what would possess her to include this in her book? Jawdroppingly stupidity. I think she was trying to show how difficult things “had to be done” and she’s a woman willing to do “what has to be done”. Maybe that’ll culminate into her eventually putting down Donald. Putting down Donald? Are you suggesting she should assassinate a presidential candidate? You may need a little visit from the Secret Service.
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Post by upstream on Apr 28, 2024 9:30:03 GMT -5
I think she was trying to show how difficult things “had to be done” and she’s a woman willing to do “what has to be done”. Maybe that’ll culminate into her eventually putting down Donald. Putting down Donald? Are you suggesting she should assassinate a presidential candidate? You may need a little visit from the Secret Service. I’m suggesting she may do what needs to be done as she said she’s willing to do.
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Post by smokey1 on Apr 28, 2024 10:36:05 GMT -5
Putting down Donald? Are you suggesting she should assassinate a presidential candidate? You may need a little visit from the Secret Service. I’m suggesting she may do what needs to be done as she said she’s willing to do. Yeah, I know what you are suggesting.
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Post by zenwalk on Apr 28, 2024 11:26:21 GMT -5
Here's the thing: what would possess her to include this in her book? Jawdroppingly stupidity. Grotesque. It's a trump audition. The primary trait of fascists is cruelty.
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Post by ishmael on Apr 28, 2024 12:45:23 GMT -5
She probably figured it would be better to announce it ahead of the election, assuming she wants to be the VP, so that the over reaction could be dealt with earlier rather than later.
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Post by summer23 on Apr 28, 2024 12:49:32 GMT -5
She probably figured it would be better to announce it ahead of the election, assuming she wants to be the VP, so that the over reaction could be dealt with earlier rather than later. I know that some people put animals out of misery by shooting them. My Georgia grandfather had to shoot his dog after it was hit by a car. Her description of why she did what she did was cold. Heartless. She had options. Goats can be nasty creatures - but - again - she had options and chose to shoot it (them). She killed three horses recently. I guarantee she shot them as well instead of giving them barbiturates. How do you have horses for 15 years and kill them?? Unless you have had animals, perhaps the horrific explanation of why and how misses you. I don't think there are overreactions. I think she should be b-slapped.
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Post by ishmael on Apr 28, 2024 13:08:14 GMT -5
She probably figured it would be better to announce it ahead of the election, assuming she wants to be the VP, so that the over reaction could be dealt with earlier rather than later. I know that some people put animals out of misery by shooting them. My Georgia grandfather had to shoot his dog after it was hit by a car. Her description of why she did what she did was cold. Heartless. She had options. Goats can be nasty creatures - but - again - she had options and chose to shoot it (them). She killed three horses recently. I guarantee she shot them as well instead of giving them barbiturates. How do you have horses for 15 years and kill them?? Unless you have had animals, perhaps the horrific explanation of why and how misses you. I don't think there are overreactions. I think she should be b-slapped. Set aside the emotion and look at it rationally. The dog turned on her and tried to bite her, after it killed a number of a neighbor's chickens. This was supposed to be a working dog, not a pet and it clearly could not be trusted. The goat kept butting her kids. If one of the kids had been hurt, folks would be clamoring to know why she hadn't taken steps to protect the kids. The horses were old and may have been in pain. The article doesn't address the "why" of the decision to put down the horses. Now, let's look at the methodology. A bullet to the head kills these animals instantly. They are dead before they feel any pain. They don't know what's coming, they are not "afraid". They are just dead. Quick. Painless. Inexpensive.
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Post by summer23 on Apr 28, 2024 13:16:47 GMT -5
I know that some people put animals out of misery by shooting them. My Georgia grandfather had to shoot his dog after it was hit by a car. Her description of why she did what she did was cold. Heartless. She had options. Goats can be nasty creatures - but - again - she had options and chose to shoot it (them). She killed three horses recently. I guarantee she shot them as well instead of giving them barbiturates. How do you have horses for 15 years and kill them?? Unless you have had animals, perhaps the horrific explanation of why and how misses you. I don't think there are overreactions. I think she should be b-slapped. Set aside the emotion and look at it rationally. The dog turned on her and tried to bite her, after it killed a number of a neighbor's chickens. This was supposed to be a working dog, not a pet and it clearly could not be trusted. The goat kept butting her kids. If one of the kids had been hurt, folks would be clamoring to know why she hadn't taken steps to protect the kids. The horses were old and may have been in pain. The article doesn't address the "why" of the decision to put down the horses. Now, let's look at the methodology. A bullet to the head kills these animals instantly. They are dead before they feel any pain. They don't know what's coming, they are not "afraid". They are just dead. Quick. Painless. Inexpensive. Put emotions aside?? Oh please. This is the best: S.E. Cupp, another Republican pundit who also hunts with dogs, pointed out that “there are 592 other things you can do with a dog that won't hunt besides kill it in front of your kid and construction workers.” www.forbes.com/sites/zacharyfolk/2024/04/28/kristi-noems-killing-of-her-puppy-slammed-across-parties-and-mocked-at-correspondents-dinner/?sh=113a54352631
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Post by ishmael on Apr 28, 2024 13:24:18 GMT -5
Set aside the emotion and look at it rationally. The dog turned on her and tried to bite her, after it killed a number of a neighbor's chickens. This was supposed to be a working dog, not a pet and it clearly could not be trusted. The goat kept butting her kids. If one of the kids had been hurt, folks would be clamoring to know why she hadn't taken steps to protect the kids. The horses were old and may have been in pain. The article doesn't address the "why" of the decision to put down the horses. Now, let's look at the methodology. A bullet to the head kills these animals instantly. They are dead before they feel any pain. They don't know what's coming, they are not "afraid". They are just dead. Quick. Painless. Inexpensive. Put emotions aside?? Oh please. This is the best: S.E. Cupp, another Republican pundit who also hunts with dogs, pointed out that “there are 592 other things you can do with a dog that won't hunt besides kill it in front of your kid and construction workers.” www.forbes.com/sites/zacharyfolk/2024/04/28/kristi-noems-killing-of-her-puppy-slammed-across-parties-and-mocked-at-correspondents-dinner/?sh=113a54352631 And I bet one of those 592 things is pray really hard that it won't turn on one of your kids like it turned on you. I bet another is you can hope real hard that it won't attack the neighbor walking the dog because it thinks the other dog is a chicken. Summer23, you're right I don't have animals - any more. I made the decision she had to make, for the same reason, in 1984. They are too much work and far too unpredictable for me.
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Post by JoyinMudville on Apr 28, 2024 13:31:40 GMT -5
The entire GOP has lost its mind
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Post by summer23 on Apr 28, 2024 13:47:49 GMT -5
And I bet one of those 592 things is pray really hard that it won't turn on one of your kids like it turned on you. I bet another is you can hope real hard that it won't attack the neighbor walking the dog because it thinks the other dog is a chicken. Summer23, you're right I don't have animals - any more. I made the decision she had to make, for the same reason, in 1984. They are too much work and far too unpredictable for me. You can be as sarcastic as you please, but she was the problem here, not the dog. Not the goat. Not the horses. She clearly thinks she is hot stuff. She is a creep. And, yes, I would say the same if she was a man. She is 100% anti-abortion and 1000% a heartless jerk.
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Post by JoyinMudville on Apr 28, 2024 14:10:03 GMT -5
character is destiny and this woman has shown herself to be of questionable character and I am being polite
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Post by ishmael on Apr 28, 2024 15:23:13 GMT -5
And I bet one of those 592 things is pray really hard that it won't turn on one of your kids like it turned on you. I bet another is you can hope real hard that it won't attack the neighbor walking the dog because it thinks the other dog is a chicken. Summer23, you're right I don't have animals - any more. I made the decision she had to make, for the same reason, in 1984. They are too much work and far too unpredictable for me. You can be as sarcastic as you please, but she was the problem here, not the dog. Not the goat. Not the horses. She clearly thinks she is hot stuff. She is a creep. And, yes, I would say the same if she was a man. She is 100% anti-abortion and 1000% a heartless jerk. Her stand on abortion has nothing to do with the story. She may well be very cold, as heartless is not possible. That said, the dog and the goat and the horses were most certainly the problem.
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Post by ishmael on Apr 28, 2024 15:30:59 GMT -5
character is destiny and this woman has shown herself to be of questionable character and I am being polite Let's see... - she was honest, exposing a painful and clearly unliked piece of her history she did not have to expose. - she dispatched two potentially dangerous animals quickly and humanely, protecting her kids and others. - she dispatched three horses who reached the average life expectancy of horses, and did so quickly and humanely. I don't think there is enough here, in this excerpt, to bring her character into question. I don't particularly care for her Trumpian approach to politics though.
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Post by JoyinMudville on Apr 28, 2024 16:18:29 GMT -5
character is destiny and this woman has shown herself to be of questionable character and I am being polite Let's see... - she was honest, exposing a painful and clearly unliked piece of her history she did not have to expose. - she dispatched two potentially dangerous animals quickly and humanely, protecting her kids and others. - she dispatched three horses who reached the average life expectancy of horses, and did so quickly and humanely. I don't think there is enough here, in this excerpt, to bring her character into question. I don't particularly care for her Trumpian approach to politics though. Because the dog went after some chickens? My 16 year dog was a pretty wild puppy and would just about pull my arm off if she saw a squirrel. I didn't shoot the thing. 16 years later she's right here next to me. She was telling the story to suggest that she knows how to make the 'tough decisions' but what see actually revealed is that she's a lousy person. But hey, if you think animal cruelty is a good campaign platform, you go right ahead!
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Post by msmaggie on Apr 28, 2024 16:19:35 GMT -5
character is destiny and this woman has shown herself to be of questionable character and I am being polite Let's see... - she was honest, exposing a painful and clearly unliked piece of her history she did not have to expose. - she dispatched two potentially dangerous animals quickly and humanely, protecting her kids and others. - she dispatched three horses who reached the average life expectancy of horses, and did so quickly and humanely. I don't think there is enough here, in this excerpt, to bring her character into question. I don't particularly care for her Trumpian approach to politics though. You don't shoot your dog in the face in and then shoot your goat in the same gravel pit, right before yr kids get off the school bus at the same gravel pit. There's something I never thought I'd have to say. On the plus side, that's one way to teach yr kids to behave.
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Post by ishmael on Apr 28, 2024 16:29:40 GMT -5
Let's see... - she was honest, exposing a painful and clearly unliked piece of her history she did not have to expose. - she dispatched two potentially dangerous animals quickly and humanely, protecting her kids and others. - she dispatched three horses who reached the average life expectancy of horses, and did so quickly and humanely. I don't think there is enough here, in this excerpt, to bring her character into question. I don't particularly care for her Trumpian approach to politics though. Because the dog went after some chickens? My 16 year dog was a pretty wild puppy and would just about pull my arm off if she saw a squirrel. I didn't shoot the thing. 16 years later she's right here next to me. She was telling the story to suggest that she knows how to make the 'tough decisions' but what see actually revealed is that she's a lousy person. But hey, if you think animal cruelty is a good campaign platform, you go right ahead! I'm glad your animal is still with you, but is your dog a pet or a working animal? Just about every dog worthy of being called a dog will go after a squirrel. This dog went after, caught and killed multiple chickens and then turned on its master. This dogs "work" was to identify birds, without disturbing them, so the pheasants could be hunted. Apparently, the dog just wasn't tempered appropriately for that job. Wire-haired pointers are known for being erratic and aggressive around smaller animals and it appears, this dog bent that way. But I understand, she has that darn (R) after her name, so there is that.
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Post by summer23 on Apr 28, 2024 16:30:00 GMT -5
You can be as sarcastic as you please, but she was the problem here, not the dog. Not the goat. Not the horses. She clearly thinks she is hot stuff. She is a creep. And, yes, I would say the same if she was a man. She is 100% anti-abortion and 1000% a heartless jerk. Her stand on abortion has nothing to do with the story. She may well be very cold, as heartless is not possible. That said, the dog and the goat and the horses were most certainly the problem. Another alternative: "Hello? Hunting dog rescue? I have a 14-month-old pup that I failed to properly train, had way too much fun at the pheasant shoot, and it attacked some chickens and acted like he was going to bite me. It is not working out. All my fault I will be dropping it off." "Hello? Vet? I need to euthanize my goat(s). Can you make a visit, or could I bring them to you?" "Hello? Horse sanctuary? I have three advance aged horses. Are you able to take them?" Shooting was expedient though. She did not sound at all remorseful about killing her young dog. Today my cat bit my toe. Again. Hold on while I go handle that.
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Post by vosa on Apr 28, 2024 16:33:09 GMT -5
character is destiny and this woman has shown herself to be of questionable character and I am being polite Let's see... - she was honest, exposing a painful and clearly unliked piece of her history she did not have to expose. - she dispatched two potentially dangerous animals quickly and humanely, protecting her kids and others. - she dispatched three horses who reached the average life expectancy of horses, and did so quickly and humanely. I don't think there is enough here, in this excerpt, to bring her character into question. I don't particularly care for her Trumpian approach to politics though. Anyone who has lived or worked on a farm or a ranch knows that animals are put down all the time. Farmers and ranchers know their animals like they know their family members. They know when the animal is dangerous. They know when the animal is suffering unaddressable pain. They know when all a vet could do is put the animal down. So they do it themselves and save some time and money. A bullet to the head is quick, painless and humane. The dissemblers here just can understand why a person would be honest about how they have lived their lives. And in bring up inconsequential stuff like this the Biden apologist hope to divert attention away from his abysmal records as president. Expect more of it was we get closer to the election.
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Post by summer23 on Apr 28, 2024 16:39:18 GMT -5
Her family, she writes, also owned a male goat that was “nasty and mean”, because it had not been castrated. Furthermore, the goat smelled “disgusting, musky, rancid” and “loved to chase” Noem’s children, knocking them down and ruining their clothes.
Noem decided to kill the unnamed goat the same way she had just killed Cricket the dog. But though she “dragged him to a gravel pit”, the goat jumped as she shot and therefore survived the wound. Noem says she went back to her truck, retrieved another shell, then “hurried back to the gravel pit and put him down”.
At that point, Noem writes, she realised a construction crew had watched her kill both animals. The startled workers swiftly got back to work, she writes, only for a school bus to arrive and drop off Noem’s children.
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Post by JoyinMudville on Apr 28, 2024 18:04:12 GMT -5
Because the dog went after some chickens? My 16 year dog was a pretty wild puppy and would just about pull my arm off if she saw a squirrel. I didn't shoot the thing. 16 years later she's right here next to me. She was telling the story to suggest that she knows how to make the 'tough decisions' but what see actually revealed is that she's a lousy person. But hey, if you think animal cruelty is a good campaign platform, you go right ahead! I'm glad your animal is still with you, but is your dog a pet or a working animal? Just about every dog worthy of being called a dog will go after a squirrel. This dog went after, caught and killed multiple chickens and then turned on its master. This dogs "work" was to identify birds, without disturbing them, so the pheasants could be hunted. Apparently, the dog just wasn't tempered appropriately for that job. Wire-haired pointers are known for being erratic and aggressive around smaller animals and it appears, this dog bent that way. That’s no reason to shoot a dog. The woman is obviously not capable of training a dog
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