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Post by soulflower on Apr 29, 2024 11:31:21 GMT -5
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Post by cowboyz on Apr 29, 2024 11:34:23 GMT -5
Good. Progress.
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Post by augustwest on Apr 29, 2024 19:29:45 GMT -5
Thanks Biden.
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Post by kandace on Apr 29, 2024 19:30:54 GMT -5
The forces of Blue Fascism require replenishment.
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Post by workerbee on Apr 30, 2024 6:41:44 GMT -5
The forces of Blue Fascism require replenishment. Amen. Four shot and killed in Charlotte NC yesterday.
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Post by rocketwolf on Apr 30, 2024 7:09:52 GMT -5
As long as they are being trained properly to know OUR Rights and what the Actual Laws are and to not use their egos to circumvent the law. We need the police we just need better trained ones.
Qualified immunity has to go as I say below.
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Post by ishmael on Apr 30, 2024 7:52:24 GMT -5
As long as they are being trained properly to know OUR Rights and what the Actual Laws are and to not use their egos to circumvent the law. We need the police we just need better trained ones.
Qualified immunity has to go as I say below.
I think it has to be better defined and its limits made more clear. However, as long as a cop has to walk into a blind alley, at night, for the purpose of finding a bad guy, some level of immunity has to be available.
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Post by summer23 on Apr 30, 2024 8:59:18 GMT -5
Why are you thanking Biden?
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Post by stevez51 on Apr 30, 2024 9:09:21 GMT -5
Why are you thanking Biden? He gets thanked for good happenings. Not when gas prices go up, only when they go down.
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Post by augustwest on Apr 30, 2024 9:14:11 GMT -5
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Post by augustwest on Apr 30, 2024 9:17:04 GMT -5
Why are you thanking Biden? He gets thanked for good happenings. Not when gas prices go up, only when they go down. The fact of the matter is he supplied the federal funds for local police hiring. But the idiots and the QAnon dummies claim he defund the police.
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Post by summer23 on Apr 30, 2024 9:19:15 GMT -5
The COPS program funding has been around since 1994. But great news that hiring has increased.
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Post by augustwest on Apr 30, 2024 10:16:17 GMT -5
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Post by summer23 on Apr 30, 2024 10:27:26 GMT -5
So silly. Sponsor: Sen. Cotton, Tom [R-AR] (Introduced 07/21/2021) Committees: Senate - Finance Latest Action: Senate - 07/21/2021 Read twice and referred to the Committee on Finance. (All Actions) The bill rescinds specified COVID-19 relief funds and makes the funding available to the Department of Justice (DOJ) for law enforcement grant programs. Specifically, the bill rescinds certain unobligated funds that were provided by the American Rescue Plan Act of 2021 for making payments to states, territories, and tribal governments to mitigate the fiscal effects stemming from the COVID-19 public health emergency. The bill makes the rescinded funds available to DOJ for (1) the Edward Byrne Memorial Justice Assistance Grant program, and the (2) Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS) grant program. It also makes a portion of the funds available to establish a Law Enforcement Assistance Trust Fund to ensure the long-term availability of federal support for state and local law enforcement activities. www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/2426Thanks, Senator Cotton!
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Post by msmaggie on Apr 30, 2024 10:38:51 GMT -5
So silly. Sponsor: Sen. Cotton, Tom [R-AR] (Introduced 07/21/2021) Committees: Senate - Finance Latest Action: Senate - 07/21/2021 Read twice and referred to the Committee on Finance. (All Actions) The bill rescinds specified COVID-19 relief funds and makes the funding available to the Department of Justice (DOJ) for law enforcement grant programs. Specifically, the bill rescinds certain unobligated funds that were provided by the American Rescue Plan Act of 2021 for making payments to states, territories, and tribal governments to mitigate the fiscal effects stemming from the COVID-19 public health emergency. The bill makes the rescinded funds available to DOJ for (1) the Edward Byrne Memorial Justice Assistance Grant program, and the (2) Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS) grant program. It also makes a portion of the funds available to establish a Law Enforcement Assistance Trust Fund to ensure the long-term availability of federal support for state and local law enforcement activities. www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/2426Thanks, Senator Cotton! Did this bill ever get passed? Below from end of 2023 thehill.com/homenews/administration/4289536-biden-administration-334m-police-officers-school-security/
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Post by summer23 on Apr 30, 2024 10:46:50 GMT -5
So silly. Sponsor: Sen. Cotton, Tom [R-AR] (Introduced 07/21/2021) Committees: Senate - Finance Latest Action: Senate - 07/21/2021 Read twice and referred to the Committee on Finance. (All Actions) The bill rescinds specified COVID-19 relief funds and makes the funding available to the Department of Justice (DOJ) for law enforcement grant programs. Specifically, the bill rescinds certain unobligated funds that were provided by the American Rescue Plan Act of 2021 for making payments to states, territories, and tribal governments to mitigate the fiscal effects stemming from the COVID-19 public health emergency. The bill makes the rescinded funds available to DOJ for (1) the Edward Byrne Memorial Justice Assistance Grant program, and the (2) Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS) grant program. It also makes a portion of the funds available to establish a Law Enforcement Assistance Trust Fund to ensure the long-term availability of federal support for state and local law enforcement activities. www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/2426Thanks, Senator Cotton! Did this bill ever get passed? Below from end of 2023 thehill.com/homenews/administration/4289536-biden-administration-334m-police-officers-school-security/ I don't know.
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Post by msmaggie on Apr 30, 2024 10:59:48 GMT -5
Doesn't look like it ever got out of Senate.
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Post by zenwalk on Apr 30, 2024 11:24:39 GMT -5
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Post by summer23 on Apr 30, 2024 11:26:40 GMT -5
Sure. Whitehouse fact sheets are for sure factual! Especially in an election year. Thank you for providing this wealth of information!
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Post by zenwalk on Apr 30, 2024 11:30:35 GMT -5
Sure. Whitehouse fact sheets are for sure factual! Especially in an election year. Thank you for providing this wealth of information! zzzzzzzzz
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Post by rocketwolf on Apr 30, 2024 18:57:44 GMT -5
As long as they are being trained properly to know OUR Rights and what the Actual Laws are and to not use their egos to circumvent the law. We need the police we just need better trained ones.
Qualified immunity has to go as I say below.
I think it has to be better defined and its limits made more clear. However, as long as a cop has to walk into a blind alley, at night, for the purpose of finding a bad guy, some level of immunity has to be available. That makes no sense, are you saying he should go in guns and tazer blazing? And then get a bye from the corpse?
So far there has been very little "better defining" and making its "limits more clear"!
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Post by ishmael on Apr 30, 2024 20:45:36 GMT -5
I think it has to be better defined and its limits made more clear. However, as long as a cop has to walk into a blind alley, at night, for the purpose of finding a bad guy, some level of immunity has to be available. That makes no sense, are you saying he should go in guns and tazer blazing? And then get a bye from the corpse?
So far there has been very little "better defining" and making its "limits more clear"!
Wow, rocketeolf, that was a zenwalkian level of exaggeration. I didn't suggest anything even remotely like that. I agree with your sentiment however - more needs to be done.
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Post by kandace on May 1, 2024 6:09:40 GMT -5
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Post by kandace on May 2, 2024 15:31:09 GMT -5
From WISHTV.com: On Jan. 24, 18-year-old high school senior Vivian Augustus was pulled over by South Whitley Police Department Officer Brian Schimmel. She pulled into a gas station in the small town of South Whitley, which is west of Fort Wayne. A little more than 1,800 people call it home. Augustus’s family, through a court subpoena, got the gas station surveillance footage and video from the officer’s bodycam. Just over a week ago, the family released all the video publicly. In the video, 16 seconds after starting to talk to Schimmel, the officer opens the driver-side door of the car Augustus was in. After a little more than a minute of talking with the door open, Schimmel rips Augustus out of the car and throws her to the ground at the gas station to arrest her. The bodycam video shows Augustus in the back of the officer’s squad car. Schimmel explains to Augustus why he pulled her over and arrested her. The officer said, “You were pulled over for your speed and your headlight, OK? Your speed was 37 in a 30. Not that big of a deal, and your headlight was out on your driver’s side. Pulling you over to let you know. If you had just given me your license and your registration like I asked you to do, you would have gone away with a warning tonight; but, however, since you decided to pull this right here, where you don’t want to comply, you don’t want to give me your ID, you think you’re going to run the scene, you’re now going to jail. Do you understand?”
“I was trying to give you my ID,” Augustus responded. “You were not. How many times did I ask you?” Schimmel asked. “I was getting out my ID,” Augustus said. “You were not. I’ve got a bodycam on. It’ll show you not pulling your ID out. When I ask you step out of the vehicle you step out of the vehicle. You don’t get to sit there and tell me how I’m going to do my job. You understand,” Schimmel said. The officer’s bodycam was not recording during the first part of the traffic stop, and was only turned on after Augustus was on the ground. Her ID can be seen within arms’ reach of her on the ground while she’s being arrested. Augustus was charged with refusal to identify herself, resisting arrest, and speeding. The resisting arrest charge was later dropped, but a trial was set for October for her to fight the charge of failing to identify herself, a misdemeanor.
Her dad, Brent Augustus, was shocked when he found our she had been arrested. “She’s a captain of her show choir. She’s a part of the Columbia City High School EMT (emergency medical technician) training program. She volunteers at church and youth leadership programs, and she’s wanting to study political science and prelaw.” Dad agreed that what the officer had alleged did not fit his daughter’s character. The Augustus family hired a lawyer and were patient for months, thinking the prosecutor was going to drop the charges. “We had trusted the system to work and the prosecutor, as well as our town council, just failed at every step,” Brent Augustus said. So, the family released the video to the public. The backlash was swift and quick. The Town Council initially released a statement saying the interaction between Schimmel and Augustus was flawed but not worthy of his dismissal from his job. www.justiceforvivian.com/
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Post by cowboyz on May 3, 2024 6:48:16 GMT -5
From WISHTV.com: On Jan. 24, 18-year-old high school senior Vivian Augustus was pulled over by South Whitley Police Department Officer Brian Schimmel. She pulled into a gas station in the small town of South Whitley, which is west of Fort Wayne. A little more than 1,800 people call it home. Augustus’s family, through a court subpoena, got the gas station surveillance footage and video from the officer’s bodycam. Just over a week ago, the family released all the video publicly. In the video, 16 seconds after starting to talk to Schimmel, the officer opens the driver-side door of the car Augustus was in. After a little more than a minute of talking with the door open, Schimmel rips Augustus out of the car and throws her to the ground at the gas station to arrest her. The bodycam video shows Augustus in the back of the officer’s squad car. Schimmel explains to Augustus why he pulled her over and arrested her. The officer said, “You were pulled over for your speed and your headlight, OK? Your speed was 37 in a 30. Not that big of a deal, and your headlight was out on your driver’s side. Pulling you over to let you know. If you had just given me your license and your registration like I asked you to do, you would have gone away with a warning tonight; but, however, since you decided to pull this right here, where you don’t want to comply, you don’t want to give me your ID, you think you’re going to run the scene, you’re now going to jail. Do you understand?”
“I was trying to give you my ID,” Augustus responded. “You were not. How many times did I ask you?” Schimmel asked. “I was getting out my ID,” Augustus said. “You were not. I’ve got a bodycam on. It’ll show you not pulling your ID out. When I ask you step out of the vehicle you step out of the vehicle. You don’t get to sit there and tell me how I’m going to do my job. You understand,” Schimmel said. The officer’s bodycam was not recording during the first part of the traffic stop, and was only turned on after Augustus was on the ground. Her ID can be seen within arms’ reach of her on the ground while she’s being arrested. Augustus was charged with refusal to identify herself, resisting arrest, and speeding. The resisting arrest charge was later dropped, but a trial was set for October for her to fight the charge of failing to identify herself, a misdemeanor.
Her dad, Brent Augustus, was shocked when he found our she had been arrested. “She’s a captain of her show choir. She’s a part of the Columbia City High School EMT (emergency medical technician) training program. She volunteers at church and youth leadership programs, and she’s wanting to study political science and prelaw.” Dad agreed that what the officer had alleged did not fit his daughter’s character. The Augustus family hired a lawyer and were patient for months, thinking the prosecutor was going to drop the charges. “We had trusted the system to work and the prosecutor, as well as our town council, just failed at every step,” Brent Augustus said. So, the family released the video to the public. The backlash was swift and quick. The Town Council initially released a statement saying the interaction between Schimmel and Augustus was flawed but not worthy of his dismissal from his job. www.justiceforvivian.com/Good.... they got rid of another power hungry, arrogant, dangerous cop. I still wish there were a data base where these cops are reported, I fear he can become a cop in another jurisdiction.
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Post by alienrace on May 3, 2024 7:00:20 GMT -5
So, let me get this right - SF posted a thread that is positive news about police, and our resident militant left winger retorts with her usual ACAB stance?
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Post by cowboyz on May 3, 2024 7:05:48 GMT -5
So, let me get this right - SF posted a thread that is positive news about police, and our resident militant left winger retorts with her usual ACAB stance? I edited your post.
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