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Post by Evil Yoda on Jan 30, 2022 18:28:22 GMT -5
Network ratings chasers groan. Everyone knows who Mahomes is. But Burrow? As a second year quarterback for a team that has been unremarkable for decades, he's a relative unknown.
Maybe this is the Bengals' year. It's certainly arguable that Burrow's success against the Ravens is a big part of why Martindale got shown the door.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jan 30, 2022 22:52:44 GMT -5
They will face the Rams in two weeks. Rams could be playing the Bowl at home; second time that has happened recently (Bucs were the last team to do it).
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Post by ivanbalt on Jan 31, 2022 6:22:42 GMT -5
Pretty embarrassing for the Chiefs. They must have forgot there are two halves.
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Post by pickle20 on Jan 31, 2022 7:39:18 GMT -5
Happy KC lost. I’m so over Mahomes.
This feels like a weird alternate reality 1982 Super Bowl.
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Post by alienrace on Jan 31, 2022 8:32:01 GMT -5
I'm happy for the Bengal fans, and happy for Stafford. Burrow has had an amazing year, and carried a flawed team on his back with the help of Chase, Higgins, and Mixon. The Chiefs showed us who we thought they were - a team that is not what it once was, and still has some issues on defense.
The Rams are 3.5 point favorites, which sounds about right - but - if the Bengals want to keep this one close they have to find a way to slow down the Rams pass rush, that could get ugly fast.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Feb 1, 2022 14:45:48 GMT -5
Pretty embarrassing for the Chiefs. They must have forgot there are two halves. Every team does that on occasion. The Ravens sure have. It's particularly embarrassing when it happens in a high profile game. And thanks to one particular team's performance in such a game, we may as well call this "falconing" the game.
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Post by pickle20 on Feb 1, 2022 15:46:57 GMT -5
KC got away from the run in the second half. Up 21-3 they got away from the run. SMH
They had a 5.8 YPC average, too.
Bienemy definitely hurt his HC chances with that decision-making. And he was a running back!
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Post by alienrace on Feb 2, 2022 8:40:43 GMT -5
Bienemy definitely hurt his HC chances with that decision-making. And he was a running back! Word is that he interviews poorly.
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Post by Rael on Feb 2, 2022 10:44:56 GMT -5
Bienemy definitely hurt his HC chances with that decision-making. And he was a running back! Word is that he interviews poorly. Or, that is what is said when the are just pretending to follow the Rooney rule...
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Post by pickle20 on Feb 2, 2022 10:50:42 GMT -5
Or he's been in the SB the last two years (and AFCCG the last four years) and is available too late to interview.
Speaking of the Rooney Rule, have you seen the news about the Brian Flores mess?
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Post by alienrace on Feb 2, 2022 10:59:15 GMT -5
Speaking of the Rooney Rule, have you seen the news about the Brian Flores mess? Yeah, and that's the problem with the Rooney rule.
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Post by pickle20 on Feb 2, 2022 11:10:21 GMT -5
Speaking of the Rooney Rule, have you seen the news about the Brian Flores mess? Yeah, and that's the problem with the Rooney rule. I think the RR has good intentions but teams can easily bypass it. Interviewing a Black coach after you've already hired a White one is the problem.
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Post by alienrace on Feb 2, 2022 11:15:31 GMT -5
Yeah, and that's the problem with the Rooney rule. I think the RR has good intentions but teams can easily bypass it. Interviewing a Black coach after you've already hired a White one is the problem. A lot of teams have a person in mind before they begin the process, and if that person happens to be white, it creates tokenism in order to satisfy the rule, which is a detriment to all involved. I agree that it had good intentions, but it's time for it to go.
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Post by Rael on Feb 2, 2022 11:19:07 GMT -5
Yeah, and that's the problem with the Rooney rule. I think the RR has good intentions but teams can easily bypass it. Interviewing a Black coach after you've already hired a White one is the problem. I think in an organization as small as the NFL (32 jobs with hundreds of well known assistants to choose from) the idea of a Romney rule just doesn't work. Most organizations already have a potential replacement in mind before the job comes open. To pretend to interview when you already know who you intend to hire is demeaning for all involved. Case in point. When I was hired by my company they targeted me because they knew who I was based on previous employment and the fact that my company sold them the software. They knew my skills were a match for their needs. Should they have, in that situation, been required to set up a bunch of interviews with other potential employees? It seems that most head coaching jobs are filled more in this manner than by open interviews.
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Post by ivanbalt on Feb 2, 2022 12:16:55 GMT -5
The RR is kind of dumb and insulting, but good old boy network of the NFL is clearly a problem.
Houston for example let Bill O'Brien go wild for years as he set the franchise back at least half a decade, but then fire David Culley after one year after he overachieved with the college level squad left over from O'Brien. And O'Brien was even considered for the Jaguars' vacancy!
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Post by pickle20 on Feb 2, 2022 13:58:19 GMT -5
1 Black head coach currently in the NFL. So less than 3 percent of HC's are Black. In a league with 70 percent Black players.
IIRC I think there is one Black GM in football.
Yeah. That is a problem. The NFL is actually going backwards in this regard.
I don't think what happened to Flores in Miami was racism...they hired him in the first place. Ross is an awful owner who wanted to tank and he hired a coach who wanted to win. Imagine that.
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Post by alienrace on Feb 2, 2022 15:50:22 GMT -5
In a league with 70 percent Black players. Nobody is concerned that the league is 70 percent black players in a nation where they are only 12 percent of the population? I mean they certainly seem concerned that the NHL has hardly any black players and create initiatives to get more involved, but the same doesn't seem to matter when it's a lack of white players in any sport.
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Post by Rael on Feb 2, 2022 15:58:50 GMT -5
The RR is kind of dumb and insulting, but good old boy network of the NFL is clearly a problem. Houston for example let Bill O'Brien go wild for years as he set the franchise back at least half a decade, but then fire David Culley after one year after he overachieved with the college level squad left over from O'Brien. And O'Brien was even considered for the Jaguars' vacancy! I still think the issue is what I outlined above. Most teams already know who they want to hire before doing it. Nobody would bat an eye if Tomlin was immediately picked up without competing interviews if he was let go by Pittsburgh. Because it would be obvious that he was targeted by the team that picked him up.
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Post by pickle20 on Feb 2, 2022 16:03:31 GMT -5
In a league with 70 percent Black players. Nobody is concerned that the league is 70 percent black players in a nation where they are only 12 percent of the population? I mean they certainly seem concerned that the NHL has hardly any black players and create initiatives to get more involved, but the same doesn't seem to matter when it's a lack of white players in any sport. Hey, you want meritocracy, pro sports is probably the one place it exists in a true sense. So far in the NFL it hasn't shown up in head coaches and front office jobs.
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Post by Rael on Feb 2, 2022 16:30:34 GMT -5
Nobody is concerned that the league is 70 percent black players in a nation where they are only 12 percent of the population? I mean they certainly seem concerned that the NHL has hardly any black players and create initiatives to get more involved, but the same doesn't seem to matter when it's a lack of white players in any sport. Hey, you want meritocracy, pro sports is probably the one place it exists in a true sense. So far in the NFL it hasn't shown up in head coaches and front office jobs. In a field of 32, it is certainly quite possible that the top 29 qualified candidates are white. It wouldn't even really be a statistical anomaly. So your suggestion that the prevalence of one race in one part of the sport is evidence of a meritocracy and the prevalence of one race in a (much smaller) part of the sport is evidence AGAINST a meritocracy seems like a significant logical inconsistency to me.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Feb 2, 2022 16:44:34 GMT -5
Flores and now Hue Jackson alleging their owners offered them money to lose. Teams are denying these reports. As a strategy, tanking for a better pick makes sense if you need a franchise quarterback. But fans aren't going to see it that way, and the league better realize that. This isn't rigging a game, or shaving points, but it is adjacent. If the league tolerates it, then fans who allege that the league might try to tilt games in directions gambling partners ask will at least have food for thought. Not outright rigging, but if a team does a lot of penalty stuff and the league deliberately assigns them officials who are quick with the flag, maybe they don't cover...
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Post by cowboyz on Feb 3, 2022 10:59:08 GMT -5
Or he's been in the SB the last two years (and AFCCG the last four years) and is available too late to interview. Speaking of the Rooney Rule, have you seen the news about the Brian Flores mess? Ross responds to allegations Flores made: "With regards to the allegations being made by Brian Flores, I am a man of honor and integrity and cannot let them stand without responding," Ross wrote. "I take great personal exception to these malicious attacks, and the truth must be known. His allegations are false, malicious and defamatory. "We understand that there are media reports stating that the NFL intends to investigate his claims, and we will cooperate fully. I welcome that investigation and I am eager to defend my personal integrity, and the integrity and values of the entire Miami Dolphins organization from these baseless, unfair and disparaging claims." It's going to be an interesting offseason.
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Post by pickle20 on Feb 3, 2022 12:10:59 GMT -5
I believe Flores more than I do Ross.
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Post by alienrace on Feb 3, 2022 13:50:18 GMT -5
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Post by Evil Yoda on Feb 3, 2022 15:30:33 GMT -5
I believe Flores more than I do Ross. The owners involved cannot do anything except deny this, and probably Goodell's office has issued a memo directing them to do that. Now all they have to do is wait and see whether either of these men has proof. An email or a witness will do.
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Post by alienrace on Feb 7, 2022 11:56:17 GMT -5
Word is that he interviews poorly. Or, that is what is said when the are just pretending to follow the Rooney rule... The reason why Bieniemy hasn't been hired could be a bit deeper. He has a pretty lengthy rap sheet of bad off field behavior including an assault on a woman. Most of this occurred while he was a player and is pretty far in the rearview, but you have to wonder with today's cancel culture if teams are a little leary of making him the face of their franchise.
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