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Post by soulflower on Mar 16, 2022 15:44:34 GMT -5
Airs on April 25.
Looks like a spinoff of HBO's "The Wire" but it's based on a book about Baltimore's Gun Trace Task Force.
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Post by pickle20 on Mar 17, 2022 6:09:43 GMT -5
Looks good. Fun to see some familiar faces back from The Wire.
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Post by ivanbalt on Mar 17, 2022 8:00:48 GMT -5
Good book, I'll definitely watch.
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Post by pickle20 on Mar 17, 2022 8:08:52 GMT -5
Good book, I'll definitely watch. Yeah I may try to read it before the show airs.
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Post by soulflower on May 2, 2022 10:59:44 GMT -5
Episode one was pretty good. Jon Bernthal is pretty convincing and scary as Wayne Jenkins
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Post by pickle20 on May 2, 2022 13:01:50 GMT -5
It was excellent.
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Post by soulflower on May 2, 2022 21:26:36 GMT -5
Thread on tonight’s episode by the author of the book
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Post by pickle20 on May 9, 2022 9:02:16 GMT -5
Such a demoralizing show but it's so good. Basically, you had a combo of cops refusing to get out of their car to spite Mosby and a bunch of criminals running the GTTF. So you basically had lazy cops or corrupt crops policing the city for a few years and harassing citizens sitting on their own front steps. Sounds like a recipe for success.
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Post by pickle20 on May 18, 2022 21:36:02 GMT -5
This is the best HBO non-fiction limited series since Chernobyl and it may be better than that. This show hits on so many of the issues plaguing Baltimore policing its not funny.
It also feels like the spiritual season six of The Wire.
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Post by soulflower on May 19, 2022 7:49:53 GMT -5
This is the best HBO non-fiction limited series since Chernobyl and it may be better than that. This show hits on so many of the issues plaguing Baltimore policing its not funny. It also feels like the spiritual season six of The Wire. Yeah, it’s a little difficult to watch at times because these problems in Baltimore city haven’t been resolved. The beat goes on and on.
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Post by pickle20 on May 19, 2022 8:04:14 GMT -5
"You can't clean the floors with dirty water."
Best line from the show. Sums up so much about the city and its policing problem.
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Post by soulflower on May 19, 2022 8:59:37 GMT -5
Good interview where Jon Bernthal promotes his own podcast and discusses WOTC. So weird to hear him speak with his normal DC dialect after watching the show.
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Post by pickle20 on May 23, 2022 8:54:42 GMT -5
All caught up.
Another great episode. One of the best episodes of TV I've seen in a while, actually.
This show continues to illuminate many of the problems this city faces on a daily basis.
The police were so bad, so corrupt, that it ruined the jury pool. In this last episode they showed the challenge of finding a jury of people who hadn't had negative run-ins with city police.
Not to mention, corrupt police were allowed to remain on the job so when they made an arrest and tried to send it to trial, the prosecution is left with nothing to build a case since the arresting officer is a known dirty cop.
"You can't clean a a floor with dirty water" indeed.
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Post by ivanbalt on Jun 1, 2022 5:13:51 GMT -5
Finished the show last night. Did a good job adapting the book although a number of things were left out.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2022 10:18:38 GMT -5
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Post by soulflower on Jun 2, 2022 6:32:35 GMT -5
I just finished the series. Very good overall. I don't think six episodes does the story justice though.
I plan to watch the HBO documentary about Suiter's death next.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2022 13:37:38 GMT -5
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Post by soulflower on Jun 4, 2022 8:12:06 GMT -5
I watched the Sean Suiter documentary last night and am back to being undecided about whether it was a homicide or suicide.
His lawyer and others who knew him personally made solid arguments for why they don't believe he committed suicide. It's also worth noting that Kevin Davis still isn't convinced that it was a suicide.
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Post by ivanbalt on Jun 6, 2022 5:51:15 GMT -5
I watched the Sean Suiter documentary last night and am back to being undecided about whether it was a homicide or suicide. His lawyer and others who knew him personally made solid arguments for why they don't believe he committed suicide. It's also worth noting that Kevin Davis still isn't convinced that it was a suicide. If it was homicide, who do they think killed him?
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Post by soulflower on Jun 6, 2022 15:22:35 GMT -5
I watched the Sean Suiter documentary last night and am back to being undecided about whether it was a homicide or suicide. His lawyer and others who knew him personally made solid arguments for why they don't believe he committed suicide. It's also worth noting that Kevin Davis still isn't convinced that it was a suicide. If it was homicide, who do they think killed him? I don't know but it's not as clear to me now that he premeditated staging his suicide to look like a murder. Previously, I thought maybe he chose to take his partner to the place where he decided to off himself. It was explained in the documentary that they were actually following up on his partner's lead (not his own case) and he wasn't with his normal partner, so it was somewhat of a coincidence that he was there, not a pre-planned decision to go to that location. And David Simon deserves criticism for using the IRB report to defend the way he portrayed Suiter's death on the show. The report had some major errors and omissions. I still wouldn't rule out that he killed himself, but I'm less sure because some details remain murky and inconclusive and the people who ran the IRB have their own corruption issues. Good article on the unresolved issues surrounding the Suiter investigations here - Three Years Later: Myths and Conflicts in the Death of Sean Suiter
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Post by pickle20 on Jun 9, 2022 6:04:04 GMT -5
Finally finished the show. Excellent. One of the best miniseries of all time. If anyone wants to know how Baltimore went south so quickly after Freddie Gray, it’s all there in the show.
Now I need to read the book.
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Post by pickle20 on Jun 9, 2022 6:05:15 GMT -5
Occam’s Razor says he killed himself.
The show may have been a little irresponsible in how they portrayed it, should have been a little more open to interpretation, but I think it became obvious in the days after his death it was most likely a suicide.
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Post by soulflower on Jun 9, 2022 10:10:34 GMT -5
Occam’s Razor says he killed himself. The show may have been a little irresponsible in how they portrayed it, should have been a little more open to interpretation, but I think it became obvious in the days after his death it was most likely a suicide. I can definitely see why that seems like the most likely answer. Up until recently, I thought it was obvious but after watching the documentary and following up on the case, the details are more murky than I thought. At the end of the day, his family deserved a thorough investigation and they didn't get one. I think the show should've maybe avoided implying that Suiter committed suicide and David Simon certainly shouldn't have cited the IRB report. I'm sure it was difficult for the writers of the show because his death is still officially an open and unsolved case but many assume that he did take his own life.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2022 16:04:44 GMT -5
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Post by soulflower on Jun 15, 2022 9:55:05 GMT -5
I’m a bit disappointed that Simon keeps citing the flawed IRB report. I agree that it’s plausible that Suiter took his own life but the fact is, the case is still open and there are legit reasons to keep it open.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2022 10:39:36 GMT -5
I’m a bit disappointed that Simon keeps citing the flawed IRB report. I agree that it’s plausible that Suiter took his own life but the fact is, the case is still open and there are legit reasons to keep it open. I think it’s open because if they officially close it as a “suicide” the family won’t get to keep any money they’ve received. They’d end up suing the City for a lot more.
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Post by soulflower on Jun 15, 2022 11:31:10 GMT -5
I’m a bit disappointed that Simon keeps citing the flawed IRB report. I agree that it’s plausible that Suiter took his own life but the fact is, the case is still open and there are legit reasons to keep it open. I think it’s open because if they officially close it as a “suicide” the family won’t get to keep any money they’ve received. They’d end up suing the City for a lot more. That’s the problem that I see. Both official points of view require the belief in some sort of cover-up. You can either believe the Medical examiner and other officials like Kevin Davis for example, covered up the truth about his death to help his family. Or you can believe the IRB covered up or omitted key evidence in order to bury the case. Not sure if there was a way that Simon could’ve handled the Suiter story that would’ve made everyone happy. But the IRB report has been broadly panned for legit reasons it seems…
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Post by pickle20 on Oct 17, 2023 14:42:41 GMT -5
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Post by cowboyz on Oct 31, 2023 12:44:29 GMT -5
Cancer sucks but I don't think he should be released to spend his remaining days in the comfort of his home surrounded by family. He's in prison for a reason and that is where he should stay. Maybe they could transfer him to a prison closer so his family can visit.
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Post by soulflower on Nov 6, 2023 8:33:43 GMT -5
Cancer sucks but I don't think he should be released to spend his remaining days in the comfort of his home surrounded by family. He's in prison for a reason and that is where he should stay. Maybe they could transfer him to a prison closer so his family can visit. If he's terminal, I'm okay with him spending his last few months at home with his family.
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