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Post by alienrace on Dec 2, 2022 9:38:11 GMT -5
Well, if they can't win this one...
The Broncos' offense is putrid. Hoping the Ravens defense can rebound from its fourth collapse this season and blowing a 2 score lead. In particular Marcus Peters needs to step up - and he knows it. Would like to see more effort from him in general. Hopefully him being singled out last week lights the proverbial fire under his butt.
The Broncos defense is very good - so I'd expect a low scoring game overall - which probably explains the point spread only being 8.5 instead of double digits. The Ravens mostly need to not turn it over and have a balanced attack to win this one.
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Post by ivanbalt on Dec 2, 2022 10:22:37 GMT -5
If they let Russ cook in Baltimore, just start the rebuild.
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Post by guido2 on Dec 3, 2022 18:23:35 GMT -5
Well, if they can't win this one... The Broncos' offense is putrid. Hoping the Ravens defense can rebound from its fourth collapse this season and blowing a 2 score lead. In particular Marcus Peters needs to step up - and he knows it. Would like to see more effort from him in general. Hopefully him being singled out last week lights the proverbial fire under his butt. The Broncos defense is very good - so I'd expect a low scoring game overall - which probably explains the point spread only being 8.5 instead of double digits. The Ravens mostly need to not turn it over and have a balanced attack to win this one. Isn't or isn't it? From todays paper..... The Denver Broncos (3-8) have lost three straight games and seven of their past eight overall. Since trading away star outside linebacker Bradley Chubb on Nov. 1, Denver has graded out as the NFL’s worst team, according to Football Outsiders’ efficiency metrics, with a 29th-ranked offense, 27th-ranked defense and 32nd-ranked special teams.www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bs-sp-ravens-broncos-preview-week-13-20221203-76fg6xtl6vgkvazxfwq4mvhkny-story.htmlTo be honest, as much as I hate to say it..... but I have come to the belief that sports media is part of the machine that keeps us interested. For the last two months I have read that the Ravens defense especially the secondary was top notch and the best. Then within days.... well they suck. Then a day later they are the gold standard because they picked up that linebacker. Oh and Lamar. I really had high hopes for him. But, if he hasn't got a boo-boo, or a stomach ailment or or or preventing him from actually PRACTICING WITH HIS RECEIVERS. It would be a shocker. Mike Preston, did a real nice op-ed around that. Mike Preston: It’s time for Lamar Jackson to take charge — and the Ravens to stop coddling him Simply put, the Ravens have babied Jackson ever since the organization drafted him No. 32 overall in the first round of the 2018 NFL draftwww.baltimoresun.com/sports/analysis/preston/bs-sp-preston-ravens-lamar-jackson-challenge-20221201-2ynhpexxtjdmjf2udwgverv23a-story.htmlThere is no doubt that Lamar is incredibly talented. But are the Ravins willing to stake their future on a multimillion guaranteed contract for ..... what seems to be an accident waiting to happen. Yes he can run..... AND? IMHO. As his performance drops off so will his bargaining chips and his future paycheck. That Twitter poster maybe correct. Use the money for his guarantee to get some bodies that will not break, catch footballs, and yeah because it would give them a lot of free space throw away the players that are marginal at best. And get ones that want to play or aren't broken.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Dec 3, 2022 19:51:31 GMT -5
I don't know that they are coddling him (I can't see through the Sun's paywall so I can't read Preston's argument - but he has been known to clickbait). I do think they are trying to make him a passer (which needs to happen) with the wrong coordinator for that. If they truly want a passing quarterback then Roman, brought in to build a strong run game, needs to go.
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Post by ivanbalt on Dec 4, 2022 16:20:27 GMT -5
Man that was an atrocious win. Roman should be fired for calling that horrible trick play when the offense finally got some momentum.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Dec 4, 2022 16:38:39 GMT -5
Man that was an atrocious win. Roman should be fired for calling that horrible trick play when the offense finally got some momentum. Yeah, I am hoping he can convince Stanford he is the right man for their job.
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Post by ivanbalt on Dec 4, 2022 16:56:14 GMT -5
Man that was an atrocious win. Roman should be fired for calling that horrible trick play when the offense finally got some momentum. Yeah, I am hoping he can convince Stanford he is the right man for their job. "I've got a great play sketched up. Have the WR5 throw to RB4 on a trick play regardless of coverage. Do I have the job?"
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Post by alienrace on Dec 4, 2022 17:33:49 GMT -5
A win that felt like a loss.
Ronnie Stanley is killing this team not being out there. Hopefully Jackson and Queen will be OK.
Right now the Bengals look like the best team in the division, maybe the conference.
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Post by guido2 on Dec 4, 2022 18:09:04 GMT -5
10-9? Really?
It has become really apparent that for all the hype and exciting moments. Lamar probably just hurt/played himself out of a decent new contract.
I am sorry to say this because I thought/hoped that while his throwing.... and yeah ..... football acumen (aka being able to think.... not just react and run like a bunny) was better than I suspected. Obviously with each passing year of bad passing, heath issues, head issues and so on, I was more hopeful than connected to reality.
And again, he is broken. My bet is that he is done for the season. Just like the mysterious ankle injury. I am wondering that the Raven brain-trust is just hoping for a break through. That is likely never to happen.
Seems, and I am being very candid about this. While he is a great athlete his isn't the NFL answer to the Ravens QB of the future. Frankly I don't think he is too bright; he is one dimensional (run like a bunny). And .... sorry recently, this guy has "stomach ailments" or a mysterious quad problem, and and and, almost every week now.
Lamar is probably an excellent 'gadget play' player, I'd keep around for pistols, slot receiver, jet sweep guy. Sure. But QB? For the money he wants. Guaranteed? Ah No.
I really don't care about his "potential". Sorry, there are thousand of "potential" super stars of the NFL that never could stay health, head straight or lived up the to the hype. (Remember the Boz?')
Time to move on. Slap a frachise tag on him. And build the team up as if he didn't exist with new drafts etc. with an eye on a QB that can throw and also think..... not panic and run.
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Post by guido2 on Dec 4, 2022 18:16:37 GMT -5
I don't know that they are coddling him (I can't see through the Sun's paywall so I can't read Preston's argument - but he has been known to clickbait). I do think they are trying to make him a passer (which needs to happen) with the wrong coordinator for that. If they truly want a passing quarterback then Roman, brought in to build a strong run game, needs to go. And maybe you are correct, that a new coordinator is in order but that maybe already in the works since the present one is apparently looking elsewhere.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Dec 4, 2022 20:07:22 GMT -5
A win that felt like a loss. Ronnie Stanley is killing this team not being out there. Hopefully Jackson and Queen will be OK. Right now the Bengals look like the best team in the division, maybe the conference. According to the team (which has been less than forthright in the past), Jackson's injury is not season ending. He will receive further testing this week to see how long he will be sidelined. Queen has a significant bruise of the quad, which is doubtless quite painful but probably also not season ending. I suspect that Stanley's career is a trajectory much like that of Dennis Pitta's later career.
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Post by alienrace on Dec 5, 2022 8:19:59 GMT -5
10-9? Really? It has become really apparent that for all the hype and exciting moments. Lamar probably just hurt/played himself out of a decent new contract. I am sorry to say this because I thought/hoped that while his throwing.... and yeah ..... football acumen (aka being able to think.... not just react and run like a bunny) was better than I suspected. Obviously with each passing year of bad passing, heath issues, head issues and so on, I was more hopeful than connected to reality. And again, he is broken. My bet is that he is done for the season. Just like the mysterious ankle injury. I am wondering that the Raven brain-trust is just hoping for a break through. That is likely never to happen. Seems, and I am being very candid about this. While he is a great athlete his isn't the NFL answer to the Ravens QB of the future. Frankly I don't think he is too bright; he is one dimensional (run like a bunny). And .... sorry recently, this guy has "stomach ailments" or a mysterious quad problem, and and and, almost every week now. Lamar is probably an excellent 'gadget play' player, I'd keep around for pistols, slot receiver, jet sweep guy. Sure. But QB? For the money he wants. Guaranteed? Ah No. I really don't care about his "potential". Sorry, there are thousand of "potential" super stars of the NFL that never could stay health, head straight or lived up the to the hype. (Remember the Boz?') Time to move on. Slap a frachise tag on him. And build the team up as if he didn't exist with new drafts etc. with an eye on a QB that can throw and also think..... not panic and run. Lamar has the second most wins of any QB in the NFL since he became the starter. That's simply a fact. He's a former, unanimous league MVP. He's not going anywhere. This year he has been nearly a one man band. His already thin receiver corps lost its top player. His top target has battled injuries. Top two RB's have been sidelined much of the season. His left tackle has been in and out, and when out, the replacements have not been nearly the caliber and causing a lot of problems. Despite ALL of that, he had the team in first place, and if not for the DEFENSE blowing multi-score leads in ever single loss, they'd have been 11-0 - just like every other single team that had multi-score leads in their first 11 games in NFL HISTORY. Chew on that for a minute before you dump on Lamar for losses that aren't remotely his fault. Do you really think the issues yesterday were Lamar's fault? He dropped back to pass five times. In four of those he faced a heavy pass rush and had to escape a collapsing pocket. All receivers were completely blanketed as well. The run game was being stuffed too. Huntley didn't fare much better until the final drive when it looked like Denver's defense (remember, I warned you guys, they are very good!) tired out a little, and it was also four down territory (which they had to convert a couple of). I'm no Greg Roman fan. I hope he's out of here. I will give him some props yesterday for making adjustments though when they realized that the offensive line, particularly Mekari and Faalele couldn't protect the left side at all, they switched up to a short passing game and they were able to grind out a couple of drives. Huntley filled in admirably - but he is not Lamar, and it shows. He's efficient though, and accurate, and they were able to take what the Denver defense game them. They weren't going to get any chunk plays yesterday without Lamar. Denver dropped back and let them have the underneath stuff because they don't quite fear Huntley's running ability the way they do Lamar. Denver's defense is legit - maybe the best in the NFL. They hit hard, tackle VERY well, and disrupt the pocket. They'd have even better numbers if they had any semblance of an offense. Every game they play is a low scoring, defensive struggle. The Ravens look like a team that is depleted and hanging on for dear life. They should make the playoffs even if Lamar is out for a few weeks, they are in good position for that after the Chargers and Pats both lost. Really, one or two more wins will get them in most likely. However, right now they no longer look like they are in the same conversation with Cincy, KC, and Buffalo. The good news is they are getting some pieces back. Stanley should play next week, and probably Dobbins. That's two huge cogs that are sorely missed right now. The other is Marcus Williams. With the emergence of Kyle Hamilton (and he had another great game with some game saving plays), Williams would solidify that safety position into something that should be feared. Right now there is too much Brandon Stephens and Chuck Clark out there, and they aren't scaring anyone. What I don't get is why the Ravens aren't making a huge play for Odell Beckam. There is no team in the NFL that could use him more right now.
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Post by pickle20 on Dec 5, 2022 9:55:05 GMT -5
I don't even know what to feel today. We won, Jackson hurt, Jackson not even playing well so does it matter? Roman is still awful.
Feels like the Ravens are on the downswing and Bengals are on the upswing and we have to play a scrappy Pittsburgh team with our back-up QB.
Ugh.
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Post by guido2 on Dec 5, 2022 12:27:53 GMT -5
10-9? Really? It has become really apparent that for all the hype and exciting moments. Lamar probably just hurt/played himself out of a decent new contract. I am sorry to say this because I thought/hoped that while his throwing.... and yeah ..... football acumen (aka being able to think.... not just react and run like a bunny) was better than I suspected. Obviously with each passing year of bad passing, heath issues, head issues and so on, I was more hopeful than connected to reality. And again, he is broken. My bet is that he is done for the season. Just like the mysterious ankle injury. I am wondering that the Raven brain-trust is just hoping for a break through. That is likely never to happen. Seems, and I am being very candid about this. While he is a great athlete his isn't the NFL answer to the Ravens QB of the future. Frankly I don't think he is too bright; he is one dimensional (run like a bunny). And .... sorry recently, this guy has "stomach ailments" or a mysterious quad problem, and and and, almost every week now. Lamar is probably an excellent 'gadget play' player, I'd keep around for pistols, slot receiver, jet sweep guy. Sure. But QB? For the money he wants. Guaranteed? Ah No. I really don't care about his "potential". Sorry, there are thousand of "potential" super stars of the NFL that never could stay health, head straight or lived up the to the hype. (Remember the Boz?') Time to move on. Slap a frachise tag on him. And build the team up as if he didn't exist with new drafts etc. with an eye on a QB that can throw and also think..... not panic and run. Lamar has the second most wins of any QB in the NFL since he became the starter. That's simply a fact. He's a former, unanimous league MVP. He's not going anywhere. This year he has been nearly a one man band. His already thin receiver corps lost its top player. His top target has battled injuries. Top two RB's have been sidelined much of the season. His left tackle has been in and out, and when out, the replacements have not been nearly the caliber and causing a lot of problems. Despite ALL of that, he had the team in first place, and if not for the DEFENSE blowing multi-score leads in ever single loss, they'd have been 11-0 - just like every other single team that had multi-score leads in their first 11 games in NFL HISTORY. Chew on that for a minute before you dump on Lamar for losses that aren't remotely his fault. Do you really think the issues yesterday were Lamar's fault? He dropped back to pass five times. In four of those he faced a heavy pass rush and had to escape a collapsing pocket. All receivers were completely blanketed as well. The run game was being stuffed too. Huntley didn't fare much better until the final drive when it looked like Denver's defense (remember, I warned you guys, they are very good!) tired out a little, and it was also four down territory (which they had to convert a couple of). I'm no Greg Roman fan. I hope he's out of here. I will give him some props yesterday for making adjustments though when they realized that the offensive line, particularly Mekari and Faalele couldn't protect the left side at all, they switched up to a short passing game and they were able to grind out a couple of drives. Huntley filled in admirably - but he is not Lamar, and it shows. He's efficient though, and accurate, and they were able to take what the Denver defense game them. They weren't going to get any chunk plays yesterday without Lamar. Denver dropped back and let them have the underneath stuff because they don't quite fear Huntley's running ability the way they do Lamar. Denver's defense is legit - maybe the best in the NFL. They hit hard, tackle VERY well, and disrupt the pocket. They'd have even better numbers if they had any semblance of an offense. Every game they play is a low scoring, defensive struggle. The Ravens look like a team that is depleted and hanging on for dear life. They should make the playoffs even if Lamar is out for a few weeks, they are in good position for that after the Chargers and Pats both lost. Really, one or two more wins will get them in most likely. However, right now they no longer look like they are in the same conversation with Cincy, KC, and Buffalo. The good news is they are getting some pieces back. Stanley should play next week, and probably Dobbins. That's two huge cogs that are sorely missed right now. The other is Marcus Williams. With the emergence of Kyle Hamilton (and he had another great game with some game saving plays), Williams would solidify that safety position into something that should be feared. Right now there is too much Brandon Stephens and Chuck Clark out there, and they aren't scaring anyone. What I don't get is why the Ravens aren't making a huge play for Odell Beckam. There is no team in the NFL that could use him more right now. Yeah you make some valid points. My post was more venting I guess. But, there was a letter to the editor in the Sun today about Lamar's headspace. That maybe instead of a personal QB coach he should have a headspace coach to try and get him more poised and thinking more clearly. As pointed out in the letter the best of the best QBs over the years have poise. And after 4 years of being coddled (so to speak) he hasn't matured. That said; of course we all know that if the Ravens decide to go in another direction, trade off Lamar for a lot of pics/etc.. He of course will suddenly become Superman with pin point accuracy in passing, good decision making and so on. It's the Baltimore pro sport way. Is it not.
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Post by ivanbalt on Dec 5, 2022 12:28:44 GMT -5
10-9? Really? It has become really apparent that for all the hype and exciting moments. Lamar probably just hurt/played himself out of a decent new contract. I am sorry to say this because I thought/hoped that while his throwing.... and yeah ..... football acumen (aka being able to think.... not just react and run like a bunny) was better than I suspected. Obviously with each passing year of bad passing, heath issues, head issues and so on, I was more hopeful than connected to reality. And again, he is broken. My bet is that he is done for the season. Just like the mysterious ankle injury. I am wondering that the Raven brain-trust is just hoping for a break through. That is likely never to happen. Seems, and I am being very candid about this. While he is a great athlete his isn't the NFL answer to the Ravens QB of the future. Frankly I don't think he is too bright; he is one dimensional (run like a bunny). And .... sorry recently, this guy has "stomach ailments" or a mysterious quad problem, and and and, almost every week now. Lamar is probably an excellent 'gadget play' player, I'd keep around for pistols, slot receiver, jet sweep guy. Sure. But QB? For the money he wants. Guaranteed? Ah No. I really don't care about his "potential". Sorry, there are thousand of "potential" super stars of the NFL that never could stay health, head straight or lived up the to the hype. (Remember the Boz?') Time to move on. Slap a frachise tag on him. And build the team up as if he didn't exist with new drafts etc. with an eye on a QB that can throw and also think..... not panic and run. Lamar has the second most wins of any QB in the NFL since he became the starter. That's simply a fact. He's a former, unanimous league MVP. He's not going anywhere. This year he has been nearly a one man band. His already thin receiver corps lost its top player. His top target has battled injuries. Top two RB's have been sidelined much of the season. His left tackle has been in and out, and when out, the replacements have not been nearly the caliber and causing a lot of problems. Despite ALL of that, he had the team in first place, and if not for the DEFENSE blowing multi-score leads in ever single loss, they'd have been 11-0 - just like every other single team that had multi-score leads in their first 11 games in NFL HISTORY. Chew on that for a minute before you dump on Lamar for losses that aren't remotely his fault. Do you really think the issues yesterday were Lamar's fault? He dropped back to pass five times. In four of those he faced a heavy pass rush and had to escape a collapsing pocket. All receivers were completely blanketed as well. The run game was being stuffed too. Huntley didn't fare much better until the final drive when it looked like Denver's defense (remember, I warned you guys, they are very good!) tired out a little, and it was also four down territory (which they had to convert a couple of). I'm no Greg Roman fan. I hope he's out of here. I will give him some props yesterday for making adjustments though when they realized that the offensive line, particularly Mekari and Faalele couldn't protect the left side at all, they switched up to a short passing game and they were able to grind out a couple of drives. Huntley filled in admirably - but he is not Lamar, and it shows. He's efficient though, and accurate, and they were able to take what the Denver defense game them. They weren't going to get any chunk plays yesterday without Lamar. Denver dropped back and let them have the underneath stuff because they don't quite fear Huntley's running ability the way they do Lamar. Denver's defense is legit - maybe the best in the NFL. They hit hard, tackle VERY well, and disrupt the pocket. They'd have even better numbers if they had any semblance of an offense. Every game they play is a low scoring, defensive struggle. The Ravens look like a team that is depleted and hanging on for dear life. They should make the playoffs even if Lamar is out for a few weeks, they are in good position for that after the Chargers and Pats both lost. Really, one or two more wins will get them in most likely. However, right now they no longer look like they are in the same conversation with Cincy, KC, and Buffalo. The good news is they are getting some pieces back. Stanley should play next week, and probably Dobbins. That's two huge cogs that are sorely missed right now. The other is Marcus Williams. With the emergence of Kyle Hamilton (and he had another great game with some game saving plays), Williams would solidify that safety position into something that should be feared. Right now there is too much Brandon Stephens and Chuck Clark out there, and they aren't scaring anyone. What I don't get is why the Ravens aren't making a huge play for Odell Beckam. There is no team in the NFL that could use him more right now. I'd pass on OBJ. The Ravens could use him, but he would not be happy in the offense and likely a distraction.
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Post by guido2 on Dec 5, 2022 12:32:43 GMT -5
I don't even know what to feel today. We won, Jackson hurt, Jackson not even playing well so does it matter? Roman is still awful. Feels like the Ravens are on the downswing and Bengals are on the upswing and we have to play a scrappy Pittsburgh team with our back-up QB. Ugh. I don't know about you. But I was reading how Harbaugh danced around the question of how bad was the knee injury and how long Lamar might be off. I think I sensed a re-play of the 'phantom' ankle injury from last season. And yah know. Again I can't see into Lamar's head....... but is it possible that he KNOWS that he is going to be physically abused this season with an iffy line. And no running backs consistently available. And of course receivers that can't catch a cold ..... with or without pressure. That he may 'decide' that his knee is too messed up and sit out the rest of the season. Contract chips fall where they may.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Dec 5, 2022 13:23:05 GMT -5
What I don't get is why the Ravens aren't making a huge play for Odell Beckam. There is no team in the NFL that could use him more right now. They could use his talent, but for every player Talent - Drama has to exceed a number. In Beckham's case he's kind of a clubhouse cancer.
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Post by alienrace on Dec 5, 2022 13:40:35 GMT -5
What I don't get is why the Ravens aren't making a huge play for Odell Beckam. There is no team in the NFL that could use him more right now. They could use his talent, but for every player Talent - Drama has to exceed a number. In Beckham's case he's kind of a clubhouse cancer. This is true, but they really have to do something about the WR position. They just don't have enough there, guys aren't getting open. Also, there's a bit of an elephant in the room that probably needs discussing, and that is Mark Andrews and his play in clutch situations. He has repeatedly come up short when the pressure is on with some major miscues.
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Post by pickle20 on Dec 5, 2022 15:03:48 GMT -5
Baker released by Panthers. Could he be someone the Ravens sign as insurance if Lamar is out longer than expected?
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Post by Rael on Dec 5, 2022 15:59:20 GMT -5
They could use his talent, but for every player Talent - Drama has to exceed a number. In Beckham's case he's kind of a clubhouse cancer. This is true, but they really have to do something about the WR position. They just don't have enough there, guys aren't getting open. Also, there's a bit of an elephant in the room that probably needs discussing, and that is Mark Andrews and his play in clutch situations. He has repeatedly come up short when the pressure is on with some major miscues. Not sure this isn't a symptom rather than the problem. If we had decent receivers, wouldn't the play of Andrews be a wonderful addition to, rather than a requirement of, a decent passing offense. My point being, if you are relying on your tight end as your passing offense, your passing offense is broken regardless of how well he plays.
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Post by pickle20 on Dec 5, 2022 16:02:41 GMT -5
This is true, but they really have to do something about the WR position. They just don't have enough there, guys aren't getting open. Also, there's a bit of an elephant in the room that probably needs discussing, and that is Mark Andrews and his play in clutch situations. He has repeatedly come up short when the pressure is on with some major miscues. Not sure this isn't a symptom rather than the problem. If we had decent receivers, wouldn't the play of Andrews be a wonderful addition to, rather than a requirement of, a decent passing offense. My point being, if you are relying on your tight end as your passing offense, your passing offense is broken regardless of how well he plays. Andrews lines up as a WR a lot so he's not your usual TE. And Travis Kelce has been the focal point of the passing offense in KC and while Andrews is a clear step below Kelce, he's still an elite TE. And Kelce had a key fumble last night that cost them the game. But overall I agree. Trading Brown and failing to do anything to replace him didn't work out, and with Bateman hurt it was a major drawback. Still, this offense should still be a run-first offense with Lamar passing only when necessary. For whatever reason they get away from that at many points during the season.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Dec 5, 2022 16:21:08 GMT -5
Andrews lines up as a WR a lot so he's not your usual TE. And Travis Kelce has been the focal point of the passing offense in KC and while Andrews is a clear step below Kelce, he's still an elite TE. And Kelce had a key fumble last night that cost them the game. But overall I agree. Trading Brown and failing to do anything to replace him didn't work out, and with Bateman hurt it was a major drawback. Still, this offense should still be a run-first offense with Lamar passing only when necessary. For whatever reason they get away from that at many points during the season. In some ways DeCosta seems to still be growing into the job. He seems a little less capable than Ozzie was. Earl Thomas. Yannick Ngakoue. Talented men who didn't work out here. But in his defense, it wasn't apparent until partway through the season that Bateman has glass feet. Andrews is not only their best receiver, he's the guy opposing defenses can work to take away. That's certainly going to affect his play for several reasons, not the least of which is he has to worry about getting clobbered which will affect how he goes for the ball.
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Post by Rael on Dec 5, 2022 16:51:19 GMT -5
Not sure this isn't a symptom rather than the problem. If we had decent receivers, wouldn't the play of Andrews be a wonderful addition to, rather than a requirement of, a decent passing offense. My point being, if you are relying on your tight end as your passing offense, your passing offense is broken regardless of how well he plays. Andrews lines up as a WR a lot so he's not your usual TE. And Travis Kelce has been the focal point of the passing offense in KC and while Andrews is a clear step below Kelce, he's still an elite TE. And Kelce had a key fumble last night that cost them the game. But overall I agree. Trading Brown and failing to do anything to replace him didn't work out, and with Bateman hurt it was a major drawback. Still, this offense should still be a run-first offense with Lamar passing only when necessary. For whatever reason they get away from that at many points during the season. Three main reasons. The injury to Edwards and the injury to Dobbins and the injury to Stanley.
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Post by pickle20 on Dec 5, 2022 18:02:53 GMT -5
Andrews lines up as a WR a lot so he's not your usual TE. And Travis Kelce has been the focal point of the passing offense in KC and while Andrews is a clear step below Kelce, he's still an elite TE. And Kelce had a key fumble last night that cost them the game. But overall I agree. Trading Brown and failing to do anything to replace him didn't work out, and with Bateman hurt it was a major drawback. Still, this offense should still be a run-first offense with Lamar passing only when necessary. For whatever reason they get away from that at many points during the season.Three main reasons. The injury to Edwards and the injury to Dobbins and the injury to Stanley. Sure but even when they run the ball well they always try to force in some unnecessary passes. Drake shredded NYG and I think he only had like 11-12 rushes during that game. Just looked it up. 10 rushes for Drake. 32 passes for Lamar. In a game where we led the whole time until the end. 7 rushes for Dobbins, 7 for Lamar. Makes zero sense.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Dec 5, 2022 20:38:35 GMT -5
Three main reasons. The injury to Edwards and the injury to Dobbins and the injury to Stanley. Sure but even when they run the ball well they always try to force in some unnecessary passes. Drake shredded NYG and I think he only had like 11-12 rushes during that game. Just looked it up. 10 rushes for Drake. 32 passes for Lamar. In a game where we led the whole time until the end. 7 rushes for Dobbins, 7 for Lamar. Makes zero sense. They are trying to make Lamar a better passer, which is a worthwhile goal, but they are doing it without a sufficient number of receivers and with a coordinator whose strength is the run game.
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