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Post by pickle20 on May 7, 2024 10:39:46 GMT -5
Since 9/11 more people have been killed by white supremacists than any other hate group www.yahoo.com/news/rise-white-terrorists-set-kill-080000137.htmlArticle is about rise in white nationalism in Germany, but contains the following info about the US: Keep in mind, this has occurred during a time when the right has railed against an "open border" where supposedly terrorists and criminals are entering the country en masse (and then decided to do nothing about border when Dems offered to negotiate a deal). Yet, crime is down significantly across the country. It seems to me that as much as the right likes to scaremonger about outsiders, the biggest threat to this country has always been from within.
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Post by soulflower on May 7, 2024 10:55:46 GMT -5
The Far-Left has words and art. The Far-Right has guns.
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Post by summer23 on May 7, 2024 11:15:04 GMT -5
I would like to have information on his sources regarding the U.S.
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Post by pickle20 on May 7, 2024 11:28:36 GMT -5
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Post by kandace on May 7, 2024 11:47:47 GMT -5
And once again, Kandace is proven correct about American society.
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Post by kandace on May 7, 2024 12:14:28 GMT -5
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Post by smokey1 on May 7, 2024 13:02:21 GMT -5
From your article: They classified only 25 murders as "extremist-related" and 21 of those were linked to white supremacists. I have a couple of questions and then some comments. 1. What criteria did they use to label the murders as "extremist-related"? 2. What criteria did they use to classify the murderer as a "white supremacist"? There were 19,609 murders in the US in 2022. Only 21 (0.1%) of those were by white supremacists. I also question what they characterize as white supremacist since that definition has been greatly expanded by the left to include a lot of groups and people who don't really apply. Even if they correctly labeled the crimes and criminals it doesn't seem to be a very big threat.
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Post by Ranger John on May 7, 2024 13:16:23 GMT -5
There's never any frenzy about antisemitism. I mean just look around at the college-intifada partly violent protests all over the country right now. The coverage that we're getting of the GOP reaction is as much of a "frenzy" as the GOP is capable of. They're trying to censure Ilhan Omar right now because of some antisemitic remarks she made. See: thehill.com/homenews/4648913-ilhan-omar-censure-resolution/The Democrats CAN'T speak out against antisemitism because the college-intifada is part of their base, and The Squad openly embraces it.
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Post by pickle20 on May 7, 2024 14:16:35 GMT -5
From your article: They classified only 25 murders as "extremist-related" and 21 of those were linked to white supremacists. I have a couple of questions and then some comments. 1. What criteria did they use to label the murders as "extremist-related"? 2. What criteria did they use to classify the murderer as a "white supremacist"? There were 19,609 murders in the US in 2022. Only 21 (0.1%) of those were by white supremacists. I also question what they characterize as white supremacist since that definition has been greatly expanded by the left to include a lot of groups and people who don't really apply. Even if they correctly labeled the crimes and criminals it doesn't seem to be a very big threat. Off the top of my head the 2022 Buffalo supermarket shooting which included 10 of the 21 killed by white supremacists is the very definition of white supremacist violence.
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Post by smokey1 on May 7, 2024 14:41:06 GMT -5
From your article: They classified only 25 murders as "extremist-related" and 21 of those were linked to white supremacists. I have a couple of questions and then some comments. 1. What criteria did they use to label the murders as "extremist-related"? 2. What criteria did they use to classify the murderer as a "white supremacist"? There were 19,609 murders in the US in 2022. Only 21 (0.1%) of those were by white supremacists. I also question what they characterize as white supremacist since that definition has been greatly expanded by the left to include a lot of groups and people who don't really apply. Even if they correctly labeled the crimes and criminals it doesn't seem to be a very big threat. Off the top of my head the 2022 Buffalo supermarket shooting which included 10 of the 21 killed by white supremacists is the very definition of white supremacist violence. Its statistically insignificant.
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Post by Evil Yoda on May 7, 2024 15:10:44 GMT -5
I'd believe this. I've met a couple of white supremacists and they were lunatics who were barely able to control their tempers under the best of circumstances. Maybe they're not universally that way, but the way these guys spoke their attitudes were typically of the people in their group. Their unifying theme seemed to be rage that someone who did not look like them was allowed to exist, much less have things.
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Post by pickle20 on May 7, 2024 16:08:34 GMT -5
Off the top of my head the 2022 Buffalo supermarket shooting which included 10 of the 21 killed by white supremacists is the very definition of white supremacist violence. Its statistically insignificant. You asked.
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Post by augustwest on May 7, 2024 19:17:26 GMT -5
Jewish Americans should always remember that the right wing extremist do not actually accept or like them. This is a bedfellows arraignment and Christian white nationalist will fall right back into hating Jewish people when the Gaza news falls off the front page.
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Post by smokey1 on May 7, 2024 19:59:11 GMT -5
Jewish Americans should always remember that the right wing extremist do not actually accept or like them. This is a bedfellows arraignment and Christian white nationalist will fall right back into hating Jewish people when the Gaza news falls off the front page. What's that based on? Your prejudices?
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Post by zenwalk on May 7, 2024 20:11:30 GMT -5
It's based on the hourly news. Attachments:
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Post by smokey1 on May 7, 2024 20:12:42 GMT -5
It's based on the hourly news. CNN? MSNBC? LMFAO
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Post by soulflower on May 7, 2024 20:13:51 GMT -5
Jewish Americans should always remember that the right wing extremist do not actually accept or like them. This is a bedfellows arraignment and Christian white nationalist will fall right back into hating Jewish people when the Gaza news falls off the front page. Just bring up the "Great Replacement" and all the anti-semitic conspiracy theories start with people on the Right.
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Post by zenwalk on May 7, 2024 20:35:48 GMT -5
It's based on the hourly news. CNN? MSNBC? LMFAO Is LMFAO a right wing media group?
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Post by augustwest on May 7, 2024 21:47:27 GMT -5
Jewish Americans should always remember that the right wing extremist do not actually accept or like them. This is a bedfellows arraignment and Christian white nationalist will fall right back into hating Jewish people when the Gaza news falls off the front page. What's that based on? Your prejudices? Theirs.
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Post by smokey1 on May 7, 2024 21:56:51 GMT -5
What's that based on? Your prejudices? Theirs. You know this how?
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Post by vosa on May 7, 2024 22:52:47 GMT -5
From your article: They classified only 25 murders as "extremist-related" and 21 of those were linked to white supremacists. I have a couple of questions and then some comments. 1. What criteria did they use to label the murders as "extremist-related"? 2. What criteria did they use to classify the murderer as a "white supremacist"? There were 19,609 murders in the US in 2022. Only 21 (0.1%) of those were by white supremacists. I also question what they characterize as white supremacist since that definition has been greatly expanded by the left to include a lot of groups and people who don't really apply. Even if they correctly labeled the crimes and criminals it doesn't seem to be a very big threat. No it isn't. Especially when compared to the number of people murder in major American cities. I seriously doubt that many of those murder were committed by far right extremists. One need only read the 2nd paragraph of the extract cited by the OP to know what this is all about. This is another attempt to distract from Biden's failed presidency and whip up fear of a Trump win in November. Expect to see more of this as Trump continues to widen his lead over Biden.
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Post by augustwest on May 8, 2024 3:41:39 GMT -5
Because I am a white Christian that grew up in rural America
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Post by ivanbalt on May 8, 2024 5:14:58 GMT -5
Since 9/11 more people have been killed by white supremacists than any other hate group www.yahoo.com/news/rise-white-terrorists-set-kill-080000137.htmlArticle is about rise in white nationalism in Germany, but contains the following info about the US: Keep in mind, this has occurred during a time when the right has railed against an "open border" where supposedly terrorists and criminals are entering the country en masse (and then decided to do nothing about border when Dems offered to negotiate a deal). Yet, crime is down significantly across the country. It seems to me that as much as the right likes to scaremonger about outsiders, the biggest threat to this country has always been from within. Looks like a few people here took offense to you smearing the good name of white supremacists.
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Post by rocketwolf on May 8, 2024 5:43:02 GMT -5
From your article: They classified only 25 murders as "extremist-related" and 21 of those were linked to white supremacists. I have a couple of questions and then some comments. 1. What criteria did they use to label the murders as "extremist-related"? 2. What criteria did they use to classify the murderer as a "white supremacist"? There were 19,609 murders in the US in 2022. Only 21 (0.1%) of those were by white supremacists. I also question what they characterize as white supremacist since that definition has been greatly expanded by the left to include a lot of groups and people who don't really apply. Even if they correctly labeled the crimes and criminals it doesn't seem to be a very big threat. No it isn't. Especially when compared to the number of people murder in major American cities. I seriously doubt that many of those murder were committed by far right extremists. One need only read the 2nd paragraph of the extract cited by the OP to know what this is all about. This is another attempt to distract from Biden's failed presidency and whip up fear of a Trump win in November.Expect to see more of this as Trump continues to widen his lead over Biden. Call it a fear or a serious concern to this conservative what trump did culminating in Jan 6th has already done that. The man is not fit, capable or honest enough to be president of this nation again.
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Post by pickle20 on May 8, 2024 6:11:23 GMT -5
Since 9/11 more people have been killed by white supremacists than any other hate group www.yahoo.com/news/rise-white-terrorists-set-kill-080000137.htmlArticle is about rise in white nationalism in Germany, but contains the following info about the US: Keep in mind, this has occurred during a time when the right has railed against an "open border" where supposedly terrorists and criminals are entering the country en masse (and then decided to do nothing about border when Dems offered to negotiate a deal). Yet, crime is down significantly across the country. It seems to me that as much as the right likes to scaremonger about outsiders, the biggest threat to this country has always been from within. Looks like a few people here took offense to you smearing the good name of white supremacists. A hit dog is gonna holler.
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Post by pickle20 on May 8, 2024 6:13:34 GMT -5
My point was that with "open borders" and all these terrorists and criminals apparently coming into the country, crime is significantly down across the country and white supremacist extremism is still the biggest extremist threat.
Per usual, right-wing histrionics aren't backed up by facts and figures.
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Post by Ranger John on May 8, 2024 6:16:38 GMT -5
Here's the reality that's obvious for everyone who isn't brainwashed to see:
The biggest right-wing antisemitic rally of the last probably 30 years was those tiki-torch khaki wearing bigots shouting "Jews will not replace us!" in Charlottesville back during the Trump administration. That rally was over and done with in a few hours, and had, at most a few hundred people. And Trump condemned it.
The biggest left-wing antisemitic rallies of the last 30 years are occurring now. They involve probably tens of thousands of blue-haired girls with worthless 6-figure degrees, male pronouns (and vice versa) shouting "We will replace the Jews!" (aka: From the River to the Sea!") on dozens of college campuses all over the United States (and the world, including Auschwitz). High profile Democrats in Washington support it.
The first group and the second group are more or less the same, except the first group is operating from a place of fear and the second group is operating from a place of power.
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Post by pickle20 on May 8, 2024 6:19:59 GMT -5
Here's the reality that's obvious for everyone who isn't brainwashed to see: The biggest right-wing antisemitic rally of the last probably 30 years was those tiki-torch khaki wearing bigots shouting "Jews will not replace us!" in Charlottesville back during the Trump administration. That rally was over and done with in a few hours, and had, at most a few hundred people. The biggest left-wing antisemitic rallies of the last 30 years are occurring now. They involve probably tens of thousands of blue-haired girls with worthless 6-figure degrees, male pronouns (and vice versa) shouting "We will replace the Jews!" (aka: From the River to the Sea!") on dozens of college campuses all over the United States (and the world, including Auschwitz). High profile Democrats in Washington support it. The first group and the second group are more or less the same, except the first group is operating from a place of fear and the second group is operating from a place of power. You talking about reality is like letting Kristi Noem look after your dog.
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Post by smokey1 on May 8, 2024 7:58:54 GMT -5
Because I am a white Christian that grew up in rural America I did too. I don't know of any of my fellow white Christians who hate Jewish people. Most love Jewish people because Jesus was Jewish.
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Post by smokey1 on May 8, 2024 8:03:45 GMT -5
My point was that with "open borders" and all these terrorists and criminals apparently coming into the country, crime is significantly down across the country and white supremacist extremism is still the biggest extremist threat. Per usual, right-wing histrionics aren't backed up by facts and figures. Here are the facts. By your own reference white supremacist murders represent only 0.1% of all murders in 2022. How is something so statistically insignificant the biggest extremist threat? Its all made up to demonize conservative white people.
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