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Post by smokey1 on May 8, 2024 8:09:55 GMT -5
Looks like a few people here took offense to you smearing the good name of white supremacists. A hit dog is gonna holler. I see, so when the left tries to paint all white conservatives as white supremacists and then claim that they are a threat based on violence that is statistically insignificant no one should call it out or be branded as white supremacist themselves. Got it. Typical leftist mendacity.
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Post by pickle20 on May 8, 2024 8:31:20 GMT -5
Because I am a white Christian that grew up in rural America I did too. I don't know of any of my fellow white Christians who hate Jewish people. Most love Jewish people because Jesus was Jewish. There is also a narrative among certain Christians that Jews are responsible for Jesus' death. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_deicide
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Post by pickle20 on May 8, 2024 8:36:30 GMT -5
My point was that with "open borders" and all these terrorists and criminals apparently coming into the country, crime is significantly down across the country and white supremacist extremism is still the biggest extremist threat. Per usual, right-wing histrionics aren't backed up by facts and figures. Here are the facts. By your own reference white supremacist murders represent only 0.1% of all murders in 2022. How is something so statistically insignificant the biggest extremist threat? Its all made up to demonize conservative white people. Because it's still higher than Muslim extremist violence, which is something we've been told "open borders" would let into the country. Speaking of stuff that's made up. While the actual murders committed by white supremacists may be low, the rhetoric being spread among the right is dangerous. Great Replacement Theory is a common right-wing talking point, referenced by Fox News and Elise Stefanik, and that is something that directly inspired the Buffalo shooter. Your post is an example of a "hit dog is gonna holler." Only white supremacists would object to criticism of white supremacists. Are you a white supremacist?
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Post by pickle20 on May 8, 2024 8:37:30 GMT -5
A hit dog is gonna holler. I see, so when the left tries to paint all white conservatives as white supremacists and then claim that they are a threat based on violence that is statistically insignificant no one should call it out or be branded as white supremacist themselves. Got it. Typical leftist mendacity. LOL you keep proving my point. ![](https://gifdb.com/images/high/angry-dog-rottweiler-barking-saliva-spit-sdh3ny0diwlszeh6.gif)
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Post by smokey1 on May 8, 2024 9:21:15 GMT -5
Here are the facts. By your own reference white supremacist murders represent only 0.1% of all murders in 2022. How is something so statistically insignificant the biggest extremist threat? Its all made up to demonize conservative white people. Because it's still higher than Muslim extremist violence, which is something we've been told "open borders" would let into the country. Speaking of stuff that's made up. While the actual murders committed by white supremacists may be low, the rhetoric being spread among the right is dangerous. Great Replacement Theory is a common right-wing talking point, referenced by Fox News and Elise Stefanik, and that is something that directly inspired the Buffalo shooter. Your post is an example of a "hit dog is gonna holler." Only white supremacists would object to criticism of white supremacists. Are you a white supremacist?
No its not. I object to falsely branding anyone including leftists and then trying to demonize them with misleading statistics. Your last question is an insult. You know my position on equality and individual freedom.
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Post by smokey1 on May 8, 2024 9:23:39 GMT -5
I did too. I don't know of any of my fellow white Christians who hate Jewish people. Most love Jewish people because Jesus was Jewish. There is also a narrative among certain Christians that Jews are responsible for Jesus' death. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_deicide I don't know of anyone who believes or thinks like that.
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Post by pickle20 on May 8, 2024 9:24:13 GMT -5
Because it's still higher than Muslim extremist violence, which is something we've been told "open borders" would let into the country. Speaking of stuff that's made up. While the actual murders committed by white supremacists may be low, the rhetoric being spread among the right is dangerous. Great Replacement Theory is a common right-wing talking point, referenced by Fox News and Elise Stefanik, and that is something that directly inspired the Buffalo shooter. Your post is an example of a "hit dog is gonna holler." Only white supremacists would object to criticism of white supremacists. Are you a white supremacist?
No its not. I object to falsely branding anyone including leftists and then trying to demonize them with misleading statistics. Your last question is an insult. You know my position on equality and individual freedom. You ask insulting questions all the time. All I did was post an article that stated the leading extremist violence in this country was white supremacist violence for the last 20+ years. And it triggered you. Why do you take offense to that evidence being presented? If you say you're not a white supremacist I'll take your word for it but you can understand why someone would doubt you based on your obsession with a white supremacist, slave-based rebellion. It's like a husband telling his wife he loves her while he's in bed with another woman. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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Post by pickle20 on May 8, 2024 9:24:42 GMT -5
I don't know of anyone who believes or thinks like that. Then they must not exist using Smokey logic. Don't see it in my life, it must not exist.
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Post by smokey1 on May 8, 2024 9:27:29 GMT -5
No its not. I object to falsely branding anyone including leftists and then trying to demonize them with misleading statistics. Your last question is an insult. You know my position on equality and individual freedom. You ask insulting questions all the time. All I did was post an article that stated the leading extremist violence in this country was white supremacist violence for the last 20+ years. And it triggered you. Why do you take offense to that evidence being presented? Your article is designed to create a false narrative. I take offense at lies and misrepresentations no matter the topic.
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Post by smokey1 on May 8, 2024 9:30:52 GMT -5
I don't know of anyone who believes or thinks like that. Then they must not exist using Smokey logic. Don't see it in my life, it must not exist. Nope, not saying that. Why do you insist on putting words in my mouth? Is that something teach in journalism class? I'm sure some people may still think like that but I doubt its very many. It seems you are trying to create boogey men where there are none or very few. Are you trying to be divisive?
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Post by pickle20 on May 8, 2024 9:31:01 GMT -5
You ask insulting questions all the time. All I did was post an article that stated the leading extremist violence in this country was white supremacist violence for the last 20+ years. And it triggered you. Why do you take offense to that evidence being presented? Your article is designed to create a false narrative. I take offense at lies and misrepresentations no matter the topic. How? Did you read the article? The article is about the rise in white nationalism in Germany. It mentions that WS violence is the leading extremist violence in the US for the last 20+ years. All you've done is raise questions about how the numbers are counted. You haven't presented any evidence to prove its wrong. All you've done is demonstrate "a hit dog is gonna holler" style response.
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Post by smokey1 on May 8, 2024 9:33:25 GMT -5
Your article is designed to create a false narrative. I take offense at lies and misrepresentations no matter the topic. How? Did you read the article? The article is about the rise in white nationalism in Germany. It mentions that WS violence is the leading extremist violence in the US for the last 20+ years. All you've done is raise questions about how the numbers are counted. You haven't presented any evidence to prove its wrong. All you've done is demonstrate "a hit dog is gonna holler" style response. I pointed out your numbers of incidents in the US were insignificant and that the left is branding all white conservatives, and a couple of black ones too, as white supremacists. Its intended to be divisive.
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Post by pickle20 on May 8, 2024 9:36:56 GMT -5
Then they must not exist using Smokey logic. Don't see it in my life, it must not exist. Nope, not saying that. Why do you insist on putting words in my mouth? Is that something teach in journalism class? I'm sure some people may still think like that but I doubt its very many. It seems you are trying to create boogey men where there are none or very few. Are you trying to be divisive? I'm just going off the words you write yourself, Smokey. Actually, MTG and Matt Gaetz have recently mentioned "Jews killed Jesus" when voting against an antisemitism bill. www.politico.com/news/2024/05/01/mccarthy-ally-goes-for-gaetzs-jugular-00155605Jesus being killed by Jews is mentioned in the Bible.
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Post by pickle20 on May 8, 2024 9:38:25 GMT -5
How? Did you read the article? The article is about the rise in white nationalism in Germany. It mentions that WS violence is the leading extremist violence in the US for the last 20+ years. All you've done is raise questions about how the numbers are counted. You haven't presented any evidence to prove its wrong. All you've done is demonstrate "a hit dog is gonna holler" style response. I pointed out your numbers of incidents in the US were insignificant and that the left is branding all white conservatives, and a couple of black ones too, as white supremacists. Its intended to be divisive. That is your opinion. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Post by smokey1 on May 8, 2024 9:45:56 GMT -5
Nope, not saying that. Why do you insist on putting words in my mouth? Is that something teach in journalism class? I'm sure some people may still think like that but I doubt its very many. It seems you are trying to create boogey men where there are none or very few. Are you trying to be divisive? I'm just going off the words you write yourself, Smokey. Actually, MTG and Matt Gaetz have recently mentioned "Jews killed Jesus" when voting against an antisemitism bill. www.politico.com/news/2024/05/01/mccarthy-ally-goes-for-gaetzs-jugular-00155605Jews being killed by Jesus is mentioned in the Bible. I don't see where they said "Jews killed Jesus". The tweet just mentioned where Herod turned Jesus over to be executed which is a historical fact. I haven't read the entire Bible but I am pretty sure that it never says anything about "Jews being killed by Jesus". Can you cite what book and verse that's in?
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Post by smokey1 on May 8, 2024 9:47:28 GMT -5
I pointed out your numbers of incidents in the US were insignificant and that the left is branding all white conservatives, and a couple of black ones too, as white supremacists. Its intended to be divisive. That is your opinion. Nothing more, nothing less. The numbers and the branding aren't my opinion.
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Post by pickle20 on May 8, 2024 9:50:37 GMT -5
I don't see where they said "Jews killed Jesus". The tweet just mentioned where Herod turned Jesus over to be executed which is a historical fact. I haven't read the entire Bible but I am pretty sure that it never says anything about "Jews being killed by Jesus". Can you cite what book and verse that's in? It was a typo I fixed. I meant "Jesus killed by Jews."
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Post by pickle20 on May 8, 2024 9:51:25 GMT -5
That is your opinion. Nothing more, nothing less. The numbers and the branding aren't my opinion. That they're insignificant is your opinion. Try telling that to the loved ones of the victims. I'd love to see you try.
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Post by Evil Yoda on May 8, 2024 10:05:05 GMT -5
Right wingers want the Jewish state to get large enough to fulfill some prophecy they believe. Once that happens, the Jews either convert or die. I suspect a lot of Jews understand this but are cynically happy for their support. It's a toxic relationship, in my view. It's based on that "rapture" concept where fundamentalists believe the most devout among them will vanish, taken to paradise by their god, and the rest of the world will struggle to evade their evil spirit's unwholesome attentions.
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Post by soulflower on May 8, 2024 10:07:05 GMT -5
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Post by smokey1 on May 8, 2024 10:10:54 GMT -5
The numbers and the branding aren't my opinion. That they're insignificant is your opinion. Try telling that to the loved ones of the victims. I'd love to see you try. Mathematically the numbers are insignificant and that is a fact not an opinion.
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Post by pickle20 on May 8, 2024 10:14:28 GMT -5
That they're insignificant is your opinion. Try telling that to the loved ones of the victims. I'd love to see you try. Mathematically the numbers are insignificant and that is a fact not an opinion. That they're insignificant is your opinion. That they represent a small fraction of murders in the country is fact. Also fact: White Supremacist killings lead extremist killings since 2001. Which was the original point of the thread that triggered you for some reason. Try telling one of the victims families their loved one's death was insignificant. Please. I would love to see it.
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Post by augustwest on May 8, 2024 10:15:50 GMT -5
A hit dog is gonna holler. I see, so when the left tries to paint all white conservatives as white supremacists and then claim that they are a threat based on violence that is statistically insignificant no one should call it out or be branded as white supremacist themselves. Got it. Typical leftist mendacity. Complains about broad brush generalizations and end with “typical leftist” I was about to respond to one of your other posts but what is the point?
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Post by pickle20 on May 8, 2024 10:16:55 GMT -5
I see, so when the left tries to paint all white conservatives as white supremacists and then claim that they are a threat based on violence that is statistically insignificant no one should call it out or be branded as white supremacist themselves. Got it. Typical leftist mendacity. Complains about broad brush generalizations and end with “typical leftist” I was about to respond to one of your other posts but what is the point? Cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy is strong among the right, but it is at its strongest with Smokey.
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Post by vosa on May 8, 2024 16:31:29 GMT -5
No it isn't. Especially when compared to the number of people murder in major American cities. I seriously doubt that many of those murder were committed by far right extremists. One need only read the 2nd paragraph of the extract cited by the OP to know what this is all about. This is another attempt to distract from Biden's failed presidency and whip up fear of a Trump win in November.Expect to see more of this as Trump continues to widen his lead over Biden. Call it a fear or a serious concern to this conservative what trump did culminating in Jan 6th has already done that. The man is not fit, capable or honest enough to be president of this nation again. Is Joe Biden fit, capable or honest enough to be president of this nation again?
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Post by vosa on May 8, 2024 16:43:07 GMT -5
Here's the reality that's obvious for everyone who isn't brainwashed to see: The biggest right-wing antisemitic rally of the last probably 30 years was those tiki-torch khaki wearing bigots shouting "Jews will not replace us!" in Charlottesville back during the Trump administration. That rally was over and done with in a few hours, and had, at most a few hundred people. The biggest left-wing antisemitic rallies of the last 30 years are occurring now. They involve probably tens of thousands of blue-haired girls with worthless 6-figure degrees, male pronouns (and vice versa) shouting "We will replace the Jews!" (aka: From the River to the Sea!") on dozens of college campuses all over the United States (and the world, including Auschwitz). High profile Democrats in Washington support it. The first group and the second group are more or less the same, except the first group is operating from a place of fear and the second group is operating from a place of power. ![](https://media.giphy.com/media/Fksa1MCGgfPe8/giphy.gif) You talking about reality is like letting Kristi Noem look after your dog. More contentless drivel from the local distributor. “It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.”
- Shakespeare Macbeth, Act 5, Scene 5
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Post by smokey1 on May 8, 2024 16:48:47 GMT -5
Call it a fear or a serious concern to this conservative what trump did culminating in Jan 6th has already done that. The man is not fit, capable or honest enough to be president of this nation again. Is Joe Biden fit, capable or honest enough to be president of this nation again? Joe "poopy pants" Biden is a pathological liar who can't even make it to the bathroom on time.
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Post by vosa on May 8, 2024 16:55:30 GMT -5
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Post by vosa on May 8, 2024 16:58:59 GMT -5
Because it's still higher than Muslim extremist violence, which is something we've been told "open borders" would let into the country. Speaking of stuff that's made up. While the actual murders committed by white supremacists may be low, the rhetoric being spread among the right is dangerous. Great Replacement Theory is a common right-wing talking point, referenced by Fox News and Elise Stefanik, and that is something that directly inspired the Buffalo shooter. Your post is an example of a "hit dog is gonna holler." Only white supremacists would object to criticism of white supremacists. Are you a white supremacist?
No its not. I object to falsely branding anyone including leftists and then trying to demonize them with misleading statistics. Your last question is an insult. You know my position on equality and individual freedom. Makes no differrence. There's an election to be one. "By any means necessary."
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Post by smokey1 on May 8, 2024 17:04:43 GMT -5
No its not. I object to falsely branding anyone including leftists and then trying to demonize them with misleading statistics. Your last question is an insult. You know my position on equality and individual freedom. Makes no differrence. There's an election to be one. "By any means necessary."
That's what worries me. The left hates him so much they are looking for ways to take away his Secret Service protection. I don't wonder why.
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