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Post by soulflower on Feb 16, 2021 23:20:52 GMT -5
Available on HBO Max
Just finished watching the movie. Best Picture material.
It’s mostly about the FBI informant who was assigned to Black Panther leader, Fred Hampton. Very little in the film is whitewashed. They show both the good and bad sides of the Black Panther movement.
Phenomenal acting and great screenplay.
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Post by pickle20 on Feb 17, 2021 9:03:01 GMT -5
Yes, this was very good. Kaluuya deserves a nomination for Best Actor. Stanfield was also good as usual.
It's crazy the amount of time the FBI spent on attacking and delegitimizing any civil rights movement in the 60s and 70s.
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Post by soulflower on Feb 17, 2021 11:12:49 GMT -5
Yes, this was very good. Kaluuya deserves a nomination for Best Actor. Stanfield was also good as usual. It's crazy the amount of time the FBI spent on attacking and delegitimizing any civil rights movement in the 60s and 70s. Yup. They went after MLK as hard as they went after the BPP. Hampton was very charismatic and could’ve potentially been another King if he lived longer. Crazy that he was so mature and such a strong leader at 21.
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Post by pickle20 on Feb 17, 2021 11:18:19 GMT -5
Yeah I was shocked to see he was just 21 when he was killed.
What do you think about the “Black trauma in film” discussion? Being that Black films typically involve some kind of suffering, whether slavery, racism, civil rights, or urban violence and apparently many filmgoers what to see the Black experience portrayed in a more positive way without violence or racism. I first saw this discussion start after Queen & Slim was released.
It’s an interesting discussion. I can see both sides to the question.
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Post by soulflower on Feb 17, 2021 11:31:18 GMT -5
Yeah I was shocked to see he was just 21 when he was killed. What do you think about the “Black trauma in film” discussion? Being that Black films typically involve some kind of suffering, whether slavery, racism, civil rights, or urban violence and apparently many filmgoers what to see the Black experience portrayed in a more positive way without violence or racism. I first saw this discussion start after Queen & Slim was released. It’s an interesting discussion. I can see both sides to the question. There’s a point where too much of anything isn’t good. I can’t speak for others but personally feel like I’ve seen enough “Boyz N The Hood” and “12 years a slave” type movies. I haven’t seen “Queen & Slim” but know it’s a fictional movie. The Black Panther Party stories surprisingly haven’t been told often in Hollywood. This movie feels a little different from the other types of movies. A little bigger than just a “Black movie”. From what I’ve read, it’s also very close to an accurate portrayal of the events that happened. They took some artistic license but not so much that it’s a complete fantasy. So it should probably be viewed more as a historical type movie. And the history of COINTELPRO (the FBI’s program intended to neutralize activists in the 60s and 70s) also is an important topic that hasn’t been covered in many films. I think the J Edgar movie from a few years ago touched on that topic a bit but received some criticism for how it glossed over Hoover’s racism.
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Post by pickle20 on Feb 17, 2021 12:58:27 GMT -5
Yeah I was shocked to see he was just 21 when he was killed. What do you think about the “Black trauma in film” discussion? Being that Black films typically involve some kind of suffering, whether slavery, racism, civil rights, or urban violence and apparently many filmgoers what to see the Black experience portrayed in a more positive way without violence or racism. I first saw this discussion start after Queen & Slim was released. It’s an interesting discussion. I can see both sides to the question. There’s a point where too much of anything isn’t good. I can’t speak for others but personally feel like I’ve seen enough “Boyz N The Hood” and “12 years a slave” type movies. I haven’t seen “Queen & Slim” but know it’s a fictional movie. The Black Panther Party stories surprisingly haven’t been told often in Hollywood. This movie feels a little different from the other types of movies. A little bigger than just a “Black movie”. From what I’ve read, it’s also very close to an accurate portrayal of the events that happened. They took some artistic license but not so much that it’s a complete fantasy. So it should probably be viewed more as a historical type movie. And the history of COINTELPRO (the FBI’s program intended to neutralize activists in the 60s and 70s) also is an important topic that hasn’t been covered in many films. I think the J Edgar movie from a few years ago touched on that topic a bit but received some criticism for how it glossed over Hoover’s racism. As a fan of film, including films about the Black experience, I can see how it is exhausting that most acclaimed Black films deal with slavery or racist issues. That said they're super important films about the American experience. As a fan of film I would like to see more Black films being made like The Photograph or Sylvie's Love that don't dwell on these traumatic issues. That said, films like 12 Years a Slave, Boyz N the Hood and Judas & the Black Messiah are excellent films, period. Highly recommend Queen & Slim. Excellent film...stars Kaluuya and is directed by the woman who directs many of the Insecure episodes which are always filmed so beautifully.
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