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Post by cowboyz on Feb 12, 2024 9:22:41 GMT -5
I will vote for him for Senate. I would, if I could!
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Post by pickle20 on Feb 12, 2024 9:30:32 GMT -5
Whether Hogan is a "rino" or not, he'd still get Republican votes over Democrat Trone as they certainly wouldn't vote for Trone, assuming they come out to the polls. If it were a non-presidential election year I think those hardcore republican voters stay home in a Hogan v Trone ticket. Hogan doesn't generate a lot of enthusiasm from the right. But he does have a lot of support from independents and some on the left. I think I remember a poll saying that many more Dems would vote for him as president than Republicans.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Feb 12, 2024 12:07:22 GMT -5
I doubt that would be the case, but hey, what you are posting fits with your simplistic "all republicans are evil" bias. Politicians in the House and Senate vote how the whip tells them to. Particularly Republicans. It's got nothing to do with good or evil and everything to do with needing party support.
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Post by ishmael on Feb 12, 2024 12:09:35 GMT -5
I doubt that would be the case, but hey, what you are posting fits with your simplistic "all republicans are evil" bias. Politicians in the House and Senate vote how the whip tells them to. Particularly Republicans. It's got nothing to do with good or evil and everything to do with needing party support. Really? So tell me, why wasn't Mayorkas impeached?
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Post by Evil Yoda on Feb 12, 2024 12:20:44 GMT -5
Politicians in the House and Senate vote how the whip tells them to. Particularly Republicans. It's got nothing to do with good or evil and everything to do with needing party support. Really? So tell me, why wasn't Mayorkas impeached? Okay, you got me. 99% of the time they do what the whip tells them to. A few of them reject the party's stupider ideas, that's true.
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Post by grindelwald on Feb 15, 2024 16:23:04 GMT -5
But he will never win so I don't why anyone is in an uproar about his run. Really? He was pretty popular as governor, and David Trone doesn't seem very likeable. It's Maryland and it's a federal election. He will lose by at 10-15 which would be a great result for a Republican.
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Post by soulflower on Feb 18, 2024 11:20:30 GMT -5
I think Hogan is a longshot to win a US senate seat in MD but I also think he will be competitive. Meaning, it's not likely to be a layup for the Dems. They're going to be forced to spend more money and resources than they normally would for a Maryland Senate race.
He's still broadly liked in this state across party lines and he's anti-MAGA.
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Post by ishmael on Feb 18, 2024 12:09:04 GMT -5
Has anyone seen a Hogan for Senate ad yet?
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Post by guido2 on Feb 18, 2024 14:41:59 GMT -5
I think Hogan is a longshot to win a US senate seat in MD but I also think he will be competitive. Meaning, it's not likely to be a layup for the Dems. They're going to be forced to spend more money and resources than they normally would for a Maryland Senate race. He's still broadly liked in this state across party lines and he's anti-MAGA. Hogans biggest drawback is that .... like it or not.... he has an R after his name. I think way more people than just myself realize that, regardless of what a 'good and even handed man' Hogan might be/was. His getting elected gives the GQP one more on their side of the tally sheet. Or another way of looking at it is one less Dem. vote that could be counted on. That said and going back to the 'good and even handed man' thing. Many a 'good man' GOPer has been destroyed by the MAGA party or beaten into submission. Yes, Hogan could possibly be better than Trone or Alsobrooks. But I think most voters in Maryland agree anybody with an R is not to be trusted at this point. IMO
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Post by Evil Yoda on Feb 18, 2024 16:51:03 GMT -5
Has anyone seen a Hogan for Senate ad yet? No, but I don't expect to until after the primaries. He's not running against Trone at this point, but against other Republicans, no?
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Post by ishmael on Feb 18, 2024 20:54:06 GMT -5
Has anyone seen a Hogan for Senate ad yet? No, but I don't expect to until after the primaries. He's not running against Trone at this point, but against other Republicans, no? Valid point. Still, can you see another Republican beating him?
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Post by pickle20 on Feb 19, 2024 13:15:03 GMT -5
Has anyone seen a Hogan for Senate ad yet? No, but I don't expect to until after the primaries. He's not running against Trone at this point, but against other Republicans, no? Candidates Declared Moe Barakat, consultant[38] Chris Chaffee, homebuilding contractor, perennial candidate, and nominee for U.S. Senate in 2022[38] Robin Ficker, former state delegate (1979–1983) and perennial candidate[120] Lorie Friend, nurse and candidate for U.S. Senate in 2022[40] Larry Hogan, former governor of Maryland (2015–2023)[5] John A. Myrick, federal executive consultant and U.S. Air Force veteran[38] Laban Seyoum, business owner[38] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_Senate_election_in_MarylandI'm not familiar with anyone outside of Hogan but if they run to the right of him, they'll win. Hogan was not very popular with Republicans, especially later in his second term. He's a RINO to them.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Feb 19, 2024 14:55:16 GMT -5
No, but I don't expect to until after the primaries. He's not running against Trone at this point, but against other Republicans, no? Valid point. Still, can you see another Republican beating him? No, based on his popularity as governor. But the Maryland Republican party, like the Republican party elsewhere, is full of nutty Trump supporters. Look who it tried to get elected governor last time out. If it chooses to stand someone like that and declines to support Hogan financially, which I regard as a realistic scenario, he might lose the primary.
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Post by alienrace on Feb 20, 2024 9:59:07 GMT -5
So essentially if it's Trone vs Hogan, it's the Dino vs the Rhino Haha politics are fun
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Post by upstream on Feb 20, 2024 12:20:51 GMT -5
So essentially if it's Trone vs Hogan, it's the Dino vs the Rhino Haha politics are fun I think Trone is to the left of Alsobrooks.
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Post by alienrace on Feb 20, 2024 13:18:46 GMT -5
So essentially if it's Trone vs Hogan, it's the Dino vs the Rhino Haha politics are fun I think Trone is to the left of Alsobrooks. Wasn't he actively donating to the Republican party at some point?
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Post by upstream on Feb 20, 2024 14:50:00 GMT -5
I think Trone is to the left of Alsobrooks. Wasn't he actively donating to the Republican party at some point? Yeah for the purpose of making sure red states could partake of his total wine. Lol. I don’t like it, but I can’t fault him for that. His voting record speaks for itself.
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Post by augustwest on Feb 21, 2024 8:11:37 GMT -5
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Post by augustwest on Feb 21, 2024 8:12:02 GMT -5
If a MAGA runs against him in the primary he’ll lose. That’s the only way he loses.
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Post by mrsmlh on Feb 21, 2024 8:20:20 GMT -5
It says against potential Democrats but he would still have to win the Republican primary which I'm not sure he can do with all the MAGAs in Maryland.
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Post by pickle20 on Feb 21, 2024 8:45:10 GMT -5
If a MAGA runs against him in the primary he’ll lose. That’s the only way he loses. He was smart to file on the last day of eligibility.
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Post by soulflower on Feb 21, 2024 9:19:51 GMT -5
To be fair, I think the Dem primary candidates will be more competitive once they decide on a nominee for the Senate. Hogan for now has 100% name recognition while people are still learning about the candidates running on the Dem side. But yeah, I still wouldn't underestimate Hogan. Not sure if he can win but I won't say he can't win.
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Post by guido2 on Feb 21, 2024 16:39:43 GMT -5
That’s the only way he loses. He was smart to file on the last day of eligibility. Which begs the question: Why do you think that. Just curious.
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Post by guido2 on Feb 21, 2024 16:46:26 GMT -5
To be fair, I think the Dem primary candidates will be more competitive once they decide on a nominee for the Senate. Hogan for now has 100% name recognition while people are still learning about the candidates running on the Dem side. But yeah, I still wouldn't underestimate Hogan. Not sure if he can win but I won't say he can't win. Odds are pretty good that Hogan will win the ahhhh .... GOP nomination. However, my gut says, that at least in MD, a very blue state. That he has no chance of taking the seat. Not because he would not be a good Senator. But rather.... I think.... that people here have seen from the GOP way to much of the 'Lucy>Charlie Brown>football activity. And how, even the best people like Chaney, are chewed up and spit out by MAGA or bent to the will of TFG, and the GOPer they voted for is gone or morphed. IMHO.
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Post by pickle20 on Feb 21, 2024 17:49:14 GMT -5
He was smart to file on the last day of eligibility. Which begs the question: Why do you think that. Just curious. So some other MAGA candidate couldn't file to run against him in the primary.
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Post by guido2 on Feb 21, 2024 18:31:14 GMT -5
Which begs the question: Why do you think that. Just curious. So some other MAGA candidate couldn't file to run against him in the primary. Not trying to pull a vosa, stevez, RJ here............ But are you saying that, few if any (sorry not really paying attention to losers) GQPer had the bxlls to run, but might have if he had thrown his hat in the ring earlier? Frankly, I am still perplexed that Hogan did, considering all the other stuff, and the possibility of his being elected was near zero.
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Post by grindelwald on Feb 23, 2024 8:19:35 GMT -5
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Post by grindelwald on Feb 23, 2024 8:20:46 GMT -5
All the Dem has to do is ask who he will vote for as Senate Majority Leader and his campaign is over.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Feb 24, 2024 11:26:22 GMT -5
I liked Hogan as governor, but he can't have my vote for the Senate. It is *vital* to keep the seat out of Republican hands. *VITAL*.
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Post by guido2 on Feb 24, 2024 17:26:48 GMT -5
Nope sorry, I don't see TFG putting it aside to help the GOP/MAGA. Hogan 'dissed' Trump on more than one occasion and Trump is more concerned about getting even that help the ahhhh...... party. Further, it is pretty obvious now, that any GOP/MAGA down ticket candidate is going to be sucking wind if they expect the 'Party' to supplement their expenses. Because whatever money the 'Party' has is only weeks ..... maybe days away from becoming TFGs legal slush fund. It is kind of fun watching the train wreck.
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