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Post by Evil Yoda on Feb 24, 2024 19:25:32 GMT -5
I am not a fan of Biden; the fact that Trump is a bad, bad choice for a dozen or more reasons does not imply I think Biden is a good choice. He's just, in these circumstances, a better choice. Because let's face it: the dead racoon with no money that HE said his hair resembled would be a better choice. You do realize that the choice is not between Trump and Biden it's between Trump and Harris. I don't know her as well as Biden, but since I regard Trump as one of the worst possible choices, with faults almost beyond enumeration, I'd probably think she's a better choice.
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Post by palealeman on Feb 25, 2024 0:07:21 GMT -5
For some it was Obama's policies, specifically his radical idea that insurance companies needed to be reined in and payment for healthcare is broken. For others, including Trump and most of those who still support him, it was Obama's race - there's no disguising what they are. Yea, the idea that insurance companies needed to be reined in was really a radical idea. In fact, it was what Republicans were trying to do in the late 80s-early 90s. Of course, when the Dems picked it up and ran with it, the Republicans then opposed any reform.
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Post by palealeman on Feb 25, 2024 0:15:52 GMT -5
Let's see, his first criminal trial starts March 23rd... Yes lets see if he gets a fair trial. I hope you Dems are proud of yourselves with political persecutions and election interference all the while complaining about losing democracy to Trump. What a bunch of hypocrites. The Dems are the ones turning us into a third world banana republic. Ah, Smokey, you're still smoking that stuff. Political persecutions? It's amazing how that works. Get arrested for breaking a law and you go to trial. Hardly political. And election interference? Stop taking that Kook Aid. The only "proof" of election interference is in the demented mind of Donald Trump and his mindless followers.
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Post by smokey1 on Feb 25, 2024 7:28:27 GMT -5
Yes lets see if he gets a fair trial. I hope you Dems are proud of yourselves with political persecutions and election interference all the while complaining about losing democracy to Trump. What a bunch of hypocrites. The Dems are the ones turning us into a third world banana republic. Ah, Smokey, you're still smoking that stuff. Political persecutions? It's amazing how that works. Get arrested for breaking a law and you go to trial. Hardly political. And election interference? Stop taking that Kook Aid. The only "proof" of election interference is in the demented mind of Donald Trump and his mindless followers. If Trump wasn't running for office none of the charges he now faces would have been brought. Pathetic that ignorant people support this.
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Post by pickle20 on Feb 25, 2024 8:49:30 GMT -5
I am not a fan of Biden; the fact that Trump is a bad, bad choice for a dozen or more reasons does not imply I think Biden is a good choice. He's just, in these circumstances, a better choice. Because let's face it: the dead racoon with no money that HE said his hair resembled would be a better choice. You do realize that the choice is not between Trump and Biden it's between Trump and Harris. Coming from the guy who said Biden wouldn’t make it four years. You should really stop making predictions. I don’t think you’ve ever been right once.
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Post by pickle20 on Feb 25, 2024 8:50:52 GMT -5
Ah, Smokey, you're still smoking that stuff. Political persecutions? It's amazing how that works. Get arrested for breaking a law and you go to trial. Hardly political. And election interference? Stop taking that Kook Aid. The only "proof" of election interference is in the demented mind of Donald Trump and his mindless followers. If Trump wasn't running for office none of the charges he now faces would have been brought. Pathetic that ignorant people support this. You don’t know this. It’s pure conjecture. LOL do you ever say anything factually correct?
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Post by palealeman on Feb 25, 2024 9:59:54 GMT -5
Ah, Smokey, you're still smoking that stuff. Political persecutions? It's amazing how that works. Get arrested for breaking a law and you go to trial. Hardly political. And election interference? Stop taking that Kook Aid. The only "proof" of election interference is in the demented mind of Donald Trump and his mindless followers. If Trump wasn't running for office none of the charges he now faces would have been brought. Pathetic that ignorant people support this. Even more pathetic that the really ignorant think this is all political. Having nuclear secrets in the bathroom should merit some penalty, don't you think? And fraud really is a crime. I realize that you idolize the land that Trump walks on. I just find that even more pathetic.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Feb 25, 2024 14:11:37 GMT -5
For some it was Obama's policies, specifically his radical idea that insurance companies needed to be reined in and payment for healthcare is broken. For others, including Trump and most of those who still support him, it was Obama's race - there's no disguising what they are. Yea, the idea that insurance companies needed to be reined in was really a radical idea. In fact, it was what Republicans were trying to do in the late 80s-early 90s. Of course, when the Dems picked it up and ran with it, the Republicans then opposed any reform. My sentence was meant to be sarcastic, but tone is so often lost... In fact, insurance companies tend to be among our worst corporate citizens, which is saying something...
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Post by palealeman on Feb 25, 2024 15:06:56 GMT -5
Yea, the idea that insurance companies needed to be reined in was really a radical idea. In fact, it was what Republicans were trying to do in the late 80s-early 90s. Of course, when the Dems picked it up and ran with it, the Republicans then opposed any reform. My sentence was meant to be sarcastic, but tone is so often lost... In fact, insurance companies tend to be among our worst corporate citizens, which is saying something... Yea, I missed the sarcasm. Lack of vocal tone and facial expression. Sorry.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Feb 25, 2024 16:08:24 GMT -5
People on the right (chiefly) who oppose regulations on business consistently fail to understand that almost every regulation is a reaction to misbehavior.
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Post by vosa on Feb 25, 2024 16:40:26 GMT -5
You do realize that the choice is not between Trump and Biden it's between Trump and Harris. Coming from the guy who said Biden wouldn’t make it four years. You should really stop making predictions. I don’t think you’ve ever been right once. The 4 years aren't over yet. BTW, only the first 3 words in your 3rd sentence are correct.
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Post by pickle20 on Feb 26, 2024 8:49:04 GMT -5
Coming from the guy who said Biden wouldn’t make it four years. You should really stop making predictions. I don’t think you’ve ever been right once. The 4 years aren't over yet. BTW, only the first 3 words in your 3rd sentence are correct. Michelle Obama is going to announce her candidacy any day now.
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Post by Rael on Feb 26, 2024 9:34:29 GMT -5
I am not a fan of Biden; the fact that Trump is a bad, bad choice for a dozen or more reasons does not imply I think Biden is a good choice. He's just, in these circumstances, a better choice. Because let's face it: the dead racoon with no money that HE said his hair resembled would be a better choice. You do realize that the choice is not between Trump and Biden it's between Trump and Harris. I heard that theory the first time around. It didn't work then, but keep trying, it may work soon. He is old after all.
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Post by Rael on Feb 26, 2024 9:35:59 GMT -5
People on the right (chiefly) who oppose regulations on business consistently fail to understand that almost every regulation is a reaction to misbehavior. True, but sometimes an overreaction.
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Post by WKDWZD on Feb 26, 2024 9:37:08 GMT -5
The 4 years aren't over yet. BTW, only the first 3 words in your 3rd sentence are correct. Michelle Obama is going to announce her candidacy any day now. What is the latest stage that Michelle could run?
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Post by vosa on Feb 26, 2024 11:04:24 GMT -5
You do realize that the choice is not between Trump and Biden it's between Trump and Harris. I heard that theory the first time around. It didn't work then, but keep trying, it may work soon. He is old after all. You didn't hear that from me.
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Post by vosa on Feb 26, 2024 11:07:19 GMT -5
Michelle Obama is going to announce her candidacy any day now. What is the latest stage that Michelle could run? She could be nominated at the Democrat convention scheduled to take place Aug. 19-22, 2024, at the United Center in Chicago.
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Post by pickle20 on Feb 26, 2024 11:07:33 GMT -5
I heard that theory the first time around. It didn't work then, but keep trying, it may work soon. He is old after all. You didn't hear that from me. Yes we did, you've been claiming Biden wouldn't last the full four years since he was elected.
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Post by pickle20 on Feb 26, 2024 11:09:16 GMT -5
What is the latest stage that Michelle could run? She could be nominated at the Democrat convention scheduled to take place Aug. 19-22, 2024, at the United Center in Chicago. Monkeys could fly out of my butt tomorrow, too.
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Post by vosa on Feb 26, 2024 11:12:30 GMT -5
You didn't hear that from me. Yes we did, you've been claiming Biden wouldn't last the full four years since he was elected. Before November 3, 2020 I never said the choice was between Trump and Harris. It was after Biden was elected that I said Biden wouldn't last the full four years. You really ought to read your own posts before your hit the Create Post button.
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Post by pickle20 on Feb 26, 2024 11:13:16 GMT -5
Yes we did, you've been claiming Biden wouldn't last the full four years since he was elected. Before November 3, 2020 I never said the choice was between Trump and Harris. It was after Biden was elected that I said Biden wouldn't last the full four years. You really ought to read your own posts before your hit the Create Post button. It's the same thing.
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Post by vosa on Feb 26, 2024 14:04:18 GMT -5
Before November 3, 2020 I never said the choice was between Trump and Harris. It was after Biden was elected that I said Biden wouldn't last the full four years. You really ought to read your own posts before your hit the Create Post button. It's the same thing. So what you're saying is that I said Biden wouldn't last the full four years before he was elected. If you really think I have that kind of prognosticating power then why do you ridicule my suggestion that Michelle Obama might be the (D)s nominee for POTUS this year?
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Post by Rael on Feb 26, 2024 14:16:40 GMT -5
What is the latest stage that Michelle could run? She could be nominated at the Democrat convention scheduled to take place Aug. 19-22, 2024, at the United Center in Chicago. Care to wager? Assuming Biden is still alive and campaigning at the time of the convention, I'll give you 10-1 odds on a bet up to $200. You could make a cool $2K. Feelin' lucky?
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Post by pickle20 on Feb 26, 2024 14:23:49 GMT -5
So what you're saying is that I said Biden wouldn't last the full four years before he was elected. If you really think I have that kind of prognosticating power then why do you ridicule my suggestion that Michelle Obama might be the (D)s nominee for POTUS this year? Because they were both wrong and pretty stupid in the first place. Just like the "Hillary is gonna run!" stuff that was said up to the day before the last election. You righties aren't too good at predictions.
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Post by vosa on Feb 26, 2024 14:54:27 GMT -5
She could be nominated at the Democrat convention scheduled to take place Aug. 19-22, 2024, at the United Center in Chicago. Care to wager? Assuming Biden is still alive and campaigning at the time of the convention, I'll give you 10-1 odds on a bet up to $200. You could make a cool $2K. Feelin' lucky? 1. Your wager proposal means that you'd have to meet me in person and I know you don't want that. 2. My suggestion that Michelle might be the nominee is predicated on Biden dropping out of the race. Sorry if I did not make that clear.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Feb 26, 2024 15:07:39 GMT -5
I believe that if Biden planned to drop out of the race he'd have done that by now.
Of course, the Reaper may well have plans of his own. Biden is quite old now. Too old, really - the only reason he'll get my vote is because the alternative does not bear contemplation, lest that corrode one's sanity and will to live!
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Post by Rael on Feb 26, 2024 16:20:13 GMT -5
Care to wager? Assuming Biden is still alive and campaigning at the time of the convention, I'll give you 10-1 odds on a bet up to $200. You could make a cool $2K. Feelin' lucky? 1. Your wager proposal means that you'd have to meet me in person and I know you don't want that. 2. My suggestion that Michelle might be the nominee is predicated on Biden dropping out of the race. Sorry if I did not make that clear. I have met many from here in person. I have no issue with that. Generally, meeting in person leads to a kinder, gentler forum. My original retort was based on Harris, not Michelle.
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Post by vosa on Feb 29, 2024 17:02:39 GMT -5
People on the right (chiefly) who oppose regulations on business consistently fail to understand that almost every regulation is a reaction to misbehavior. The problem is that too many times the misbehavior of 1 miscreant results in draconian regulations being imposed on an entire industry.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Feb 29, 2024 20:03:02 GMT -5
People on the right (chiefly) who oppose regulations on business consistently fail to understand that almost every regulation is a reaction to misbehavior. The problem is that too many times the misbehavior of 1 miscreant results in draconian regulations being imposed on an entire industry. That has happened, but it has also happened that people, in trying to compete, have copied misbehavior. If you are not the corporation misbehaving, the regulation should have little impact past some "we must analyze this and ensure we remain in compliance by ensuring our policies reflect that goal if they do not already" costs. Not zero, but not going to break anyone's back... unless they are misbehaving. It is my belief that objectives oppose regulation (1) as a knee-jerk thing and (2) because it takes profit-making options away from them. They should not be considering those options, but that doesn't mean they aren't or do not want to. In sum, I think corporations who are already behaving well are minimally affected by regulations chiefly aimed at those who do not. Until we start holding CEOs and other top management criminally responsible, regulation is the only tool we have. You can't put a corporation in prison; it has no physical body. So what else can you do? Leave it alone? We've seen that end badly all too often.
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Post by vosa on Feb 29, 2024 20:09:18 GMT -5
The problem is that too many times the misbehavior of 1 miscreant results in draconian regulations being imposed on an entire industry. That has happened, but it has also happened that people, in trying to compete, have copied misbehavior. If you are not the corporation misbehaving, the regulation should have little impact past some "we must analyze this and ensure we remain in compliance by ensuring our policies reflect that goal if they do not already" costs. Not zero, but not going to break anyone's back... unless they are misbehaving. It is my belief that objectives oppose regulation (1) as a knee-jerk thing and (2) because it takes profit-making options away from them. They should not be considering those options, but that doesn't mean they aren't or do not want to. In sum, I think corporations who are already behaving well are minimally affected by regulations chiefly aimed at those who do not. Until we start holding CEOs and other top management criminally responsible, regulation is the only tool we have. You can't put a corporation in prison; it has no physical body. So what else can you do? Leave it alone? We've seen that end badly all too often. Not true in the era of government overreach.
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