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Post by pickle20 on Apr 29, 2022 7:43:43 GMT -5
Although Brown never really reached his potential, I always liked him. He seemed to come up big in big moments. But I like the move. Getting a first-rounder for him was a win but I wouldn't be surprised to see him flourish in Arizona.
Great picks in the first round. Sounds like we got a stud in Hamilton and Linderbaum fills a gaping hole on OL. End of the day OL was bigger need than WR.
Great first round for Ravens.
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Post by alienrace on Apr 29, 2022 9:25:25 GMT -5
Brown reportedly told DeCosta he wanted to be traded some time ago. Not sure of the reasons, he just came off of his best year with 91 catches and over 1000 yards. It's not like he wasn't getting targeted(and had he not been so inconsistent with drops he'd have had more I bet). I think it was that he was looking for 20 mil per year, and the Ravens were like "nope". Especially with Bateman who was starting to become more favored by Lamar. It sucks to lose a 1000 yard receiver, but they are deep, and probably will trade for or draft another.
The Kyle Henderson pick is a mix of good and bad. The bad is that they *just* signed Marcus Williams. The good is that Henderson was a top five talent that fell into their laps. He's a versatile player, and with Tavon Young gone, I suspect he will be on the field quite a bit, and at some point down the road he'll be the main guy back there.
Picking a center in the first round is always viewed peculiar, but Linderbaum is the top rated at his position, and #25 overall (which is where he was picked). Some are saying he "doesn't fit with what the Ravens do", which is soley based on him being 290 lbs.
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Post by pickle20 on Apr 29, 2022 9:28:29 GMT -5
Kyle Hamilton
Sounds like it was a BPA pick, which has been the Ravens MO for decades. No problem with the pick at all and Clark is likely done as a Raven after this year.
Still think Brown could be an elite WR and has more of a chance to become that in Arizona, but his stats should be pretty easy to replace here. Shoot, Bateman will probably do that this year. Duvarnay too.
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Post by ivanbalt on Apr 29, 2022 12:10:42 GMT -5
Brown reportedly told DeCosta he wanted to be traded some time ago. Not sure of the reasons, he just came off of his best year with 91 catches and over 1000 yards. It's not like he wasn't getting targeted(and had he not been so inconsistent with drops he'd have had more I bet). I think it was that he was looking for 20 mil per year, and the Ravens were like "nope". Especially with Bateman who was starting to become more favored by Lamar. It sucks to lose a 1000 yard receiver, but they are deep, and probably will trade for or draft another. The Kyle Henderson pick is a mix of good and bad. The bad is that they *just* signed Marcus Williams. The good is that Henderson was a top five talent that fell into their laps. He's a versatile player, and with Tavon Young gone, I suspect he will be on the field quite a bit, and at some point down the road he'll be the main guy back there. Picking a center in the first round is always viewed peculiar, but Linderbaum is the top rated at his position, and #25 overall (which is where he was picked). Some are saying he "doesn't fit with what the Ravens do", which is soley based on him being 290 lbs. Is Arizona going to give Brown $20 mil a year? Hopkins is making like $27 mil a year (worth it) and Murray is coming up on a deal.
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Post by alienrace on Apr 29, 2022 12:26:34 GMT -5
Is Arizona going to give Brown $20 mil a year? Hopkins is making like $27 mil a year (worth it) and Murray is coming up on a deal. They are dumb enough to probably do it. In other AFCN news, the Steelers picked Kenny Pickett, who fell down to them. He was the only QB drafted yesterday in what was considered a very weak QB class. He had a monster year as a fifth year senior, and I wouldn't sleep on ACC qb's. I honestly think this was a good pick in their position of greatest need, though they might have been able to get him in the second round or trade down. There are questions his size of hands because of the pro ball being fatter, but that didn't stop Drew Brees.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Apr 29, 2022 17:22:05 GMT -5
I like the picks, but losing Brown hurts even if he was inconsistent. According to the sports guy this morning, Brown asked for a trade. With free agency nearing, and an rush-favoring offense that expects him to block and does not give him the exposure (he thinks) that will allow him to build a resume which can earn him a fat contract, the move makes sense from his perspective. Both Harbaugh and DaCosta discussed the matter with Jackson. DaCosta apparently negotiated the deal a few days ago.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Apr 30, 2022 18:55:46 GMT -5
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Post by pickle20 on May 1, 2022 7:29:57 GMT -5
Looks like this could rival the team’s best drafts of previous years.
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Post by Evil Yoda on May 1, 2022 16:03:07 GMT -5
Browns have appeared in an update to the above list. Graded B+.
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Post by guido2 on May 1, 2022 18:51:35 GMT -5
They drafted a safety. Then they traded Hollywood and the #100 pick to the Cardinals for the #23 pick. I guess the felt that extending Hollywood wasn't on the table, so the next best thing is to move on while they could get something for him. The fact that Jackson was throwing with Bateman but not Brown in the off-season may have influenced the thinking, but Jackson and Brown had been thick as thieves. I wonder if Brown tried to get his cousin here to a degree that injured his prospects? Actually, I think letting Brown go was a smart move for several reasons. - The Ravins track record with drafted receivers is pretty poor. Maybe they are finally getting the idea that at least when it comes to receivers it's put up or shut up. Produce or your out. - Frankly, I am amazed by the recent releases about Brown's grousing but if we are just hearing about it. How long has this been going on. - Going back to the previous point. Brown in quote and tweet seems to believe that he is the star and everybody are cast member. IOWs he is NOT a team player. Which as a member of the Ravens team you better damn well be. - Today in the paper Preston said that Browns biggest fault is that he is soft. And I don't know exactly what he meant by 'soft'. But for some reason it sure fits in my head. - Preston also went on to say the 'break-up' might be the best of things. With no 'crutches' each will either grow up on their own or fail. That said, it seems any pro that was weak on the O's or R's seems to blossom elsewhere. I guess we'll see.
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Post by Evil Yoda on May 1, 2022 19:21:55 GMT -5
Actually, I think letting Brown go was a smart move for several reasons. - The Ravins track record with drafted receivers is pretty poor. Maybe they are finally getting the idea that at least when it comes to receivers it's put up or shut up. Produce or your out. - Frankly, I am amazed by the recent releases about Brown's grousing but if we are just hearing about it. How long has this been going on. - Going back to the previous point. Brown in quote and tweet seems to believe that he is the star and everybody are cast member. IOWs he is NOT a team player. Which as a member of the Ravens team you better damn well be. - Today in the paper Preston said that Browns biggest fault is that he is soft. And I don't know exactly what he meant by 'soft'. But for some reason it sure fits in my head. - Preston also went on to say the 'break-up' might be the best of things. With no 'crutches' each will either grow up on their own or fail. That said, it seems any pro that was weak on the O's or R's seems to blossom elsewhere. I guess we'll see. Brown thinks the reason he hasn't become a star is the offensive scheme here. And has been asking for a trade for at least two seasons. When someone tells you they don't want to play for you, listen to them. Whether Brown is a prima donna or not is less clear. He did not show #1 receiver talent but apparently thinks of himself as a #1 receiver. Perhaps the Cardinals will let him prove it. He wasn't going to be that here because the Ravens run, and that's Lamar's strength. Yes, the Ravens have been quite bad at drafting receivers, going back years. Then again, true #1 receivers tend to be few, and are often gone well before the Ravens pick. That's what they get for playing good football. Quite a few Ravens have left for better paychecks elsewhere and had mediocre follow-up careers. A few have done better.
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Post by pickle20 on May 2, 2022 7:45:34 GMT -5
The Ringer gave them an A+. Really excited for this season. If they don't extend Lamar this will be his last year on his rookie deal so winning the SB now before he eats up a chunk of the salary cap would be nice.
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Post by alienrace on May 2, 2022 9:19:02 GMT -5
Really excited for this season. If they don't extend Lamar this will be his last year on his rookie deal so winning the SB now before he eats up a chunk of the salary cap would be nice. Definitely one of the best drafts they've had. Usually they get one "steal" pick, but they got 3 or 4. David Ojabo stands out to me, this guy was a top 15 player. He probably won't start the season, but should be good to go by October. With he and Oweh, that's going to present major matchup problems. The issue the Ravens have had is that since Suggs left, they haven't had more than one really effective pass rusher, which has allowed for far too many double teams. This would get them that second "beast" to be accounted for.
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Post by Evil Yoda on May 19, 2022 19:57:34 GMT -5
Sam Koch retires, and will join the coaching staff as a special consultant. That handwriting was on the wall when they drafted a punter.
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Post by guido2 on Jun 11, 2022 18:22:15 GMT -5
Can anyone explain the pictures of players with what looks like waffles over their helmets. Is this a Raven thing or are other teams advertising for Ihop as well.
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Post by guido2 on Jun 14, 2022 11:02:30 GMT -5
Sam Koch retires, and will join the coaching staff as a special consultant. That handwriting was on the wall when they drafted a punter. I just saw a picture of Stout. He looks like he could be Thor's brother.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jun 14, 2022 15:57:08 GMT -5
Following a second hip surgery, the team has reached an injury settlement with Derek Wolfe, and will release him. He announced the second surgery on social media, essentially saying, "I just want to live a normal life." Which I would assume means he's been told going back on a professional football field would be a Bad Idea. I wish him the best, including that normal life.
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Post by guido2 on Jun 16, 2022 14:20:28 GMT -5
Following a second hip surgery, the team has reached an injury settlement with Derek Wolfe, and will release him. He announced the second surgery on social media, essentially saying, "I just want to live a normal life." Which I would assume means he's been told going back on a professional football field would be a Bad Idea. I wish him the best, including that normal life. Well for all it's flaws at least the NFL has a way to negotitate out of a contract where the player frankly could not do the job for all the megabucks they get paid. Unlike the O's that had the albatross of Davis's contract for ever it seems. I credit Wolfe that he acknowledge that it was a nice ride but it was time to get off with dignity.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jun 16, 2022 16:35:45 GMT -5
Well for all it's flaws at least the NFL has a way to negotitate out of a contract where the player frankly could not do the job for all the megabucks they get paid. Unlike the O's that had the albatross of Davis's contract for ever it seems. I credit Wolfe that he acknowledge that it was a nice ride but it was time to get off with dignity. Baseball owners shamelessly mistreated their employees for the better part of a century. Free agency has existed since 1970 or so. Subsequently owners colluded and got caught. As a consequence of these and other events players do not trust owners and probably never will. If owners tell players the sun rises in the east players will check in the morning to be certain. For this reason owners cannot represent something they think baseball needs, like contracts with medical or performance buyouts or salary caps, without players assuming they are lying and opposing them be reflex. These ownership actions also produced a player's union that is arguably the strongest union in professional sports, and likely to remain so. I don't know how injury settlements work in the NFL but the player is probably paid a significant chunk of his due salary. Otherwise they would have to pay him his entire salary while he sits on IR. Injury settlements are probably as much about lightning the cap burden in exchange for money, as well. When you have a rare skill and you are one of the elites, the people who need that skill are caught. It was like this when I wrote software, though to a far lesser degree: engineers could dictate certain things to employers in ways a lot of others could not.
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Post by guido2 on Jun 16, 2022 17:19:22 GMT -5
Well for all it's flaws at least the NFL has a way to negotitate out of a contract where the player frankly could not do the job for all the megabucks they get paid. Unlike the O's that had the albatross of Davis's contract for ever it seems. I credit Wolfe that he acknowledge that it was a nice ride but it was time to get off with dignity. Baseball owners shamelessly mistreated their employees for the better part of a century. Free agency has existed since 1970 or so. Subsequently owners colluded and got caught. As a consequence of these and other events players do not trust owners and probably never will. If owners tell players the sun rises in the east players will check in the morning to be certain. For this reason owners cannot represent something they think baseball needs, like contracts with medical or performance buyouts or salary caps, without players assuming they are lying and opposing them be reflex. These ownership actions also produced a player's union that is arguably the strongest union in professional sports, and likely to remain so. I don't know how injury settlements work in the NFL but the player is probably paid a significant chunk of his due salary. Otherwise they would have to pay him his entire salary while he sits on IR. Injury settlements are probably as much about lightning the cap burden in exchange for money, as well. When you have a rare skill and you are one of the elites, the people who need that skill are caught. It was like this when I wrote software, though to a far lesser degree: engineers could dictate certain things to employers in ways a lot of others could not. I am barely old enough to remember when they did and could. Even mediocre programmers could demand big bucks for programming in RPGII, Cobol and Fortran. And if you could to Assembler language IBM-360 you had a parking space next to the door. Then like computers they themselves they became 'toasters'. When I just started in the field working for Sysorex followed by Digital etc. I looked around and noticed.... call it prophesy..... and talked to other IT people and said. "yah know it might not be a bad idea to unionize somehow". Response " we are irreplaceable, your nuts. " AAAhhhaaaaa 🙄🤓
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Post by alienrace on Jul 11, 2022 9:03:02 GMT -5
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jul 15, 2022 13:46:20 GMT -5
Former Raven Orlando Brown will play for Kansas City under the franchise tag this year, according to "sources" (okay, the radio).
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jul 26, 2022 17:18:12 GMT -5
The Ravens have restructured Marlon Humphries' contract to free about $7M of cap space. One wonders if a Lamar extension is in the offing. They also signed veteran RB Corey Clement because Dobbins and Edwards are still on the PUP list.
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Post by alienrace on Jul 27, 2022 6:58:22 GMT -5
The Ravens have restructured Marlon Humphries' contract to free about $7M of cap space. One wonders if a Lamar extension is in the offing. They also signed veteran RB Corey Clement because Dobbins and Edwards are still on the PUP list. Seems likely to happen soon.
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