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Post by alienrace on Mar 15, 2022 12:37:52 GMT -5
Probably a little late to start this... Ravens sign a new safety www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33510289/source-baltimore-ravens-safety-marcus-williams-agree-5-year-70m-dealThis is a good pickup, and much needed as this was the biggest weakness on the team. In other belated news - Ravens cut Tavon Young. Al Villeneuve retires. Should be an interesting offseason for sure. Ravens for once have some room, and they really have to focus on the lines which inevitably means a mix of FA's and draft. For the first time in forever I think they are set at all skill positions and will stand pat there. I really, really hope they can find a way to keep Patrick Ricard, but it might not be easy. Of course the big thing, is getting Lamar's extension done. I think they will, and hopefully it'll free up some more room - otherwise they are paying him 23mil against the cap this year.
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Post by pickle20 on Mar 15, 2022 13:00:27 GMT -5
We really need OL and DL help.
I like this signing.
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Post by ivanbalt on Mar 15, 2022 13:01:41 GMT -5
Good signing. Would like to see them bring back Za'Darius Smith.
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Post by alienrace on Mar 15, 2022 13:08:20 GMT -5
Good signing. Would like to see them bring back Za'Darius Smith. Could see that happening - but - he sat out most of last year with a back injury. Might be available with a friendly contract that has some health contingencies.
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Post by alienrace on Mar 16, 2022 7:13:33 GMT -5
Morgan Moses, RT signed. Ranked 16th out of 68 tackles in pass block win ratio, and he's a solid vet that could hopefully shore up that position for a couple of years.
In the bizarre, the Browns met with DeShaun Watson, and Baker Mayfield basically said his "goodbyes" to the fans.
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Post by ivanbalt on Mar 16, 2022 7:49:24 GMT -5
Morgan Moses, RT signed. Ranked 16th out of 68 tackles in pass block win ratio, and he's a solid vet that could hopefully shore up that position for a couple of years. In the bizarre, the Browns met with DeShaun Watson, and Baker Mayfield basically said his "goodbyes" to the fans. Hopefully Moses is more like Zeitler and less like Villenuava.
It's like the Browns can't resist being the Browns. Mayfield might not be Maholmes, but he's easily the best QB they've have since returning to the NFL. So instead of having Mayfield play out his final season while healthy, they'd rather give up 1 or more 1st round picks for QB that's likely facing some type of suspension and other legal messes?
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Post by pickle20 on Mar 16, 2022 8:13:32 GMT -5
Morgan Moses, RT signed. Ranked 16th out of 68 tackles in pass block win ratio, and he's a solid vet that could hopefully shore up that position for a couple of years. In the bizarre, the Browns met with DeShaun Watson, and Baker Mayfield basically said his "goodbyes" to the fans. Hopefully Moses is more like Zeitler and less like Villenuava. It's like the Browns can't resist being the Browns. Mayfield might not be Maholmes, but he's easily the best QB they've have since returning to the NFL. So instead of having Mayfield play out his final season while healthy, they'd rather give up 1 or more 1st round picks for QB that's likely facing some type of suspension and other legal messes?
Mayfield is Mitch Trubisky. They should move on but yeah, the contract issue is an albatross and Watson is probably not the route to go here.
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Post by alienrace on Mar 16, 2022 9:09:59 GMT -5
Mayfield is Mitch Trubisky. Trubisky has better numbers, they actually aren't bad. But, as I recall Trubisky's issues were when under game pressure (i.e, game on the line) he struggled. I'm not sure what the Steelers are getting with him, the Bears are such a qb quagmire, much like the Browns. Well maybe not quite as bad, lol. The Browns are gonna Brown. Even if Mayfield is their QB in 2022, he's now psychologically damaged.
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Post by pickle20 on Mar 16, 2022 9:36:43 GMT -5
Yeah pretty Brown-ish to start courting a risky QB when you still have a homegrown risky QB under contract.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Mar 16, 2022 13:34:53 GMT -5
Apparently Watson is going to skate on criminal charges. That does not mean the league won't suspend him, but it would seem to make a suspension less likely and perhaps of shorter duration.
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Post by alienrace on Mar 17, 2022 7:29:32 GMT -5
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Post by pickle20 on Mar 17, 2022 7:46:21 GMT -5
Yeah it's hard not to like the moves they've made so far.
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Post by alienrace on Mar 17, 2022 8:18:56 GMT -5
Yeah it's hard not to like the moves they've made so far. Seems like EDC has a different approach than Ozzie - making moves a bit earlier and more aggressively.
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Post by guido2 on Mar 17, 2022 13:39:39 GMT -5
Yeah it's hard not to like the moves they've made so far. This is a bit unusual for the Ravens to go this heavy into the free agency pool like this isn't it? Or is it just me? Maybe they are adopting the Tampa and LA Rams method..... win now worry about the future in the future? They do seem to be pulling in a lot of former Ravens which automatically should be great for chemistry. This season already seems way different than previous during this time.
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Post by alienrace on Mar 17, 2022 13:57:35 GMT -5
This is a bit unusual for the Ravens to go this heavy into the free agency pool like this isn't it? Or is it just me? It's not you - they normally wait till deeper in the offseason to pick up bargains and scraps. Sometimes it worked out great - sometimes it didn't. Fans certainly lamented it when pieces that looked like great fits went elsewhere while Ozzie seemingly was overly patient. However, you can't really argue with the results. They have the fourth most wins in the NFL since 2000. Two Superbowls, and a dozen or so playoff appearances in that span.
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Post by guido2 on Mar 17, 2022 14:59:23 GMT -5
This is a bit unusual for the Ravens to go this heavy into the free agency pool like this isn't it? Or is it just me? It's not you - they normally wait till deeper in the offseason to pick up bargains and scraps. Sometimes it worked out great - sometimes it didn't. Fans certainly lamented it when pieces that looked like great fits went elsewhere while Ozzie seemingly was overly patient. However, you can't really argue with the results. They have the fourth most wins in the NFL since 2000. Two Superbowls, and a dozen or so playoff appearances in that span. Not complaining at all. Been a bit disappointed at times but overall they run a good organization. But I think they are sensing that the fans are getting a bit tired or 'well one more guy' or 'one less injury' or or or. Hence my comment earlier about pulling a RAMs this year. And when you come to ...... with the construct of payrolls etc etc.....we aren't going to see ..... TEAMS..... that you can recite the line up from year to year. No...... this is a now become ..... interchangable pieces based on who is healthy and most importantly cheap at the moment. IOWs. Unlike before owners 'built' a team...... now the 'rent' a team. Probably one of the reasons I am losing interest in pro sports in general because that seems to be the trend. Build a big flash in the pan rented team win big..... and cost for 3 or more years saying you are 'rebuilding' with cast offs and cheap drafts. While collecting cheap high draft picks. The O's are the poster boys for that one.
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Post by alienrace on Mar 17, 2022 15:06:41 GMT -5
Ian Rapport just tweeted that Smith is not being signed by the Ravens after all. Given there was an accepted offer yesterday, gonna guess he failed a physical.
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Post by alienrace on Mar 18, 2022 13:05:46 GMT -5
Smith bailed out because some other DE signed a huge contract. Geeze.
Ravens sign DT Michael Pierce - that does fill a need too, but they really have to get a top flight pass rushing DE.
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Post by ivanbalt on Mar 18, 2022 13:24:31 GMT -5
Smith bailed out because some other DE signed a huge contract. Geeze. Ravens sign DT Michael Pierce - that does fill a need too, but they really have to get a top flight pass rushing DE. I'm guessing it's because Buffalo overpaid for Von Miller?
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Post by alienrace on Mar 18, 2022 15:08:23 GMT -5
I'm guessing it's because Buffalo overpaid for Von Miller? It's exactly because of that. In other news, looks like the Browns are Browning - Mayfield requests trade out of Cleveland. Watson decides now he wants to go there. LOL.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Mar 18, 2022 21:01:24 GMT -5
In other news, looks like the Browns are Browning - Mayfield requests trade out of Cleveland. Watson decides now he wants to go there. LOL. "Do not interrupt your opponent when he is making a mistake." - some moderately famous short Frenchman It appears that the Browns have chosen to mortgage the farm. Chant is three first round picks, some lower round picks, and every dollar of the contract is guaranteed. Idiots.
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Post by guido2 on Mar 19, 2022 10:17:35 GMT -5
In other news, looks like the Browns are Browning - Mayfield requests trade out of Cleveland. Watson decides now he wants to go there. LOL. "Do not interrupt your opponent when he is making a mistake." - some moderately famous short Frenchman It appears that the Browns have chosen to mortgage the farm. Chant is three first round picks, some lower round picks, and every dollar of the contract is guaranteed. Idiots. Yeah I read that deal. Especially considering his ahhhhhhh social issues. The Texans took the Browns to the cleaners. And they are ecstatic 🤪. Prediction: Watson will become their version of the O's Davis. You watch. It is kind of interesting how we have a tale of two cities here. We have our Ravens that were formally the Browns and a steady contender. And the new Browns that seem to briefly touch sucess at times and double backwards. (It seems)
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Post by alienrace on Mar 21, 2022 10:13:33 GMT -5
Ravens re-sign Patrick Ricard on a 3 year deal! Thank god, he is my favorite Raven!
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Post by Evil Yoda on Mar 21, 2022 20:00:45 GMT -5
The Colts traded Wentz to the Commanders, and then went for Matt Ryan? I... don't understand that. Wentz did not work out for them, but I assumed the Colts wanted to start over. Of course, the Falcons were kinda desperate to shed that cap hit, so they didn't ask much in return, but...
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Post by pickle20 on Mar 22, 2022 7:55:06 GMT -5
The Colts traded Wentz to the Commanders, and then went for Matt Ryan? I... don't understand that. Wentz did not work out for them, but I assumed the Colts wanted to start over. Of course, the Falcons were kinda desperate to shed that cap hit, so they didn't ask much in return, but... Colts saw firsthand that Wentz is a malcontent. It's part of what got him shipped out of Philly. That and poor play. Matt Ryan may be less talented at this point in his career but the guy is a professional and comes to work. I don't think I've ever heard anyone criticize him in that way.
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Post by Rael on Mar 22, 2022 15:53:22 GMT -5
"Do not interrupt your opponent when he is making a mistake." - some moderately famous short Frenchman It appears that the Browns have chosen to mortgage the farm. Chant is three first round picks, some lower round picks, and every dollar of the contract is guaranteed. Idiots. Yeah I read that deal. Especially considering his ahhhhhhh social issues. The Texans took the Browns to the cleaners. And they are ecstatic 🤪. Prediction: Watson will become their version of the O's Davis. You watch. It is kind of interesting how we have a tale of two cities here. We have our Ravens that were formally the Browns and a steady contender. And the new Browns that seem to briefly touch sucess at times and double backwards. (It seems) Glenn or Chris? So will he have a couple of good seasons, break the bank with a new contract, and the suck, or will he suck right out of the gate?
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Post by pickle20 on Mar 22, 2022 15:59:47 GMT -5
Watson is an elite QB, or was before last year. Easily top 5. Browns upgraded on paper but who knows what happens with suspensions, moving to a new offense and the Browns being the Browns in perpetuity.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Mar 22, 2022 16:00:10 GMT -5
The Browns want a first round pick for Baker Mayfield. Huh. Here I thought Irsay was the only cokehead owner.
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Post by pickle20 on Mar 22, 2022 16:03:45 GMT -5
The Browns want a first round pick for Baker Mayfield. Huh. Here I thought Irsay was the only cokehead owner. They'll be lucky to get a second rounder. He's only under contract for one more season and is coming off a mediocre/injury plagued season where he clashed with his players and coaches. I wouldn't be surprised to see no teams trade for him and the Browns are forced to keep him for the year to back-up Watson or be an insurance policy for suspension or sit out the season and sign somewhere as a FA next year. Atlanta signed Mariota. So that's another team that doesn't have a pressing need for a QB.
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Post by guido2 on Mar 22, 2022 16:58:48 GMT -5
Yeah I read that deal. Especially considering his ahhhhhhh social issues. The Texans took the Browns to the cleaners. And they are ecstatic 🤪. Prediction: Watson will become their version of the O's Davis. You watch. It is kind of interesting how we have a tale of two cities here. We have our Ravens that were formally the Browns and a steady contender. And the new Browns that seem to briefly touch sucess at times and double backwards. (It seems) Glenn or Chris? So will he have a couple of good seasons, break the bank with a new contract, and the suck, or will he suck right out of the gate? 😂😂 Good one. And I may be mistaken but weren't both obtained by the O's in some trade and cash from Texas. HHHHhhhhhmmmmmm I smell a conspiracy. 😉 As far as the new Browns QB. I don't know anything other than he seems pretty good and has potential.... but has ""issues"". However, from what I have been reading..... it sounds like Baker was no prize either .
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