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Post by Evil Yoda on Jan 4, 2023 21:45:25 GMT -5
Was originally flexed to 4:00pm, but will now take place at 1:00pm due to the injury to Damar Hamlin which suspended the Bills/Bengals contest. That game will not resume, if it resumes at all, until after week 18.
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Post by ivanbalt on Jan 5, 2023 6:13:43 GMT -5
I think this one is a loss with or without Lamar.
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Post by alienrace on Jan 5, 2023 8:01:23 GMT -5
I think this one is a loss with or without Lamar. I don't think Lamar will play. I'm also wondering if Lamar's time in Baltimore is over - something isn't kosher for sure. Certainly Greg Roman is gone after the season.
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Post by pickle20 on Jan 5, 2023 9:02:24 GMT -5
I think this one is a loss with or without Lamar. I don't think Lamar will play. I'm also wondering if Lamar's time in Baltimore is over - something isn't kosher for sure. Certainly Greg Roman is gone after the season. Been saying this for a few weeks. It's possible Lamar has played his last snap as a Raven.
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Post by up2 on Jan 5, 2023 9:21:33 GMT -5
This offense was built around Lamar. If he goes, a good part of the offensive personnel designed for him goes, along with Roman. A total rebuild? I just don't see that happening. I'm thinking everyone is overreacting.
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Post by alienrace on Jan 5, 2023 11:17:46 GMT -5
I'm thinking everyone is overreacting. Maybe. It's what fans do. You look at any team's page, and it's "fire the coordinators!" or "blow the whole thing up" after any loss. However, Lamar is still not practicing ahead of what could be a very significant game for them, and at the very least a tuneup before the playoffs. For an injury that he was expected to be over 2 weeks ago.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jan 5, 2023 12:09:16 GMT -5
I think this one is a loss with or without Lamar. Without. He did not practice yesterday. But I agree. I begin to believe he does not want to sign with the Ravens.
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Post by Rael on Jan 5, 2023 16:19:51 GMT -5
I think this one is a loss with or without Lamar. Without. He did not practice yesterday. But I agree. I begin to believe he does not want to sign with the Ravens. But isn't missing the final 4 to five games in the last two years likely to hurt his price point? If you are paying a guy 35 million a year for 17 games and he only plays 12, that is the equivalent of paying him 49.5 million a year. Flacco's strategy. I'll play the best I ever have and lead the guys to the Superbowl and then negotiate. Jackson's strategy: I'll show how much they really miss me by tanking two seasons when we could have been contenders and then negotiate. One strategy seems better than the other.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jan 5, 2023 21:23:48 GMT -5
Without. He did not practice yesterday. But I agree. I begin to believe he does not want to sign with the Ravens. But isn't missing the final 4 to five games in the last two years likely to hurt his price point? If you are paying a guy 35 million a year for 17 games and he only plays 12, that is the equivalent of paying him 49.5 million a year. Flacco's strategy. I'll play the best I ever have and lead the guys to the Superbowl and then negotiate. Jackson's strategy: I'll show how much they really miss me by tanking two seasons when we could have been contenders and then negotiate. One strategy seems better than the other. My view is not rationally derived and I admit that. It's just a feeling. Because you are absolutely right that the last two seasons have done very little to demonstrate why he deserves the kind of money an elite QB normally commands. I also kind of hope DaCosta doesn't "settle" for him because doing something else might produce a negative fan reaction as the team would be bad until it can draft his replacement. At this point I would rather sign Smith and keep the defense strong.
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Post by alienrace on Jan 6, 2023 11:39:30 GMT -5
At this point I would rather sign Smith and keep the defense strong. Agreed. I know it's not popular here, but I'd franchise Lamar, trade him to Las Vegas for Derek Carr and Devonta Smith. Roman is gone either way, so a new coordinator, new offense that is more balanced and if you sign Roquan Smith and the defense continues to improve, I think you have a team that might more resemble the 2010-2012 years that won a championship and should have won two. I love Lamar Jackson and watching him play. I just don't think you can pay one player that much and still have a decent team.
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Post by alienrace on Jan 6, 2023 11:41:56 GMT -5
Incidentally, the Ravens can no longer officially "win" the AFC North but can win home field over the Bengals by winning Sunday and winning a coin toss. Seems reasonably fair. However, it does sound like the Ravens don't care much, and probably aren't trying to win the game Sunday, saying they don't want to tip their hand to the Bengals too much or something along those lines.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jan 8, 2023 12:20:55 GMT -5
Quite a few men, including Dobbins and Andrews, are inactive. They appear to have written this game off to rest these men in anticipation of next week's playoff game.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jan 8, 2023 15:35:36 GMT -5
Joe Mixon mocked the league's coin flip plan, so he can expect his pay stub to be a little light this week. One thing the league will not tolerate is players mocking it. And for nothing.
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Post by alienrace on Jan 8, 2023 17:22:21 GMT -5
Joe Mixon mocked the league's coin flip plan, so he can expect his pay stub to be a little light this week. One thing the league will not tolerate is players mocking it. And for nothing. Bengals have zero class. I don't think the Ravens mind playing them again after this one.
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Post by ivanbalt on Jan 9, 2023 6:09:18 GMT -5
Is there a team entering the playoffs with less momentum than the Ravens?
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Post by pickle20 on Jan 9, 2023 7:49:48 GMT -5
Is there a team entering the playoffs with less momentum than the Ravens? Dolphins? If Lamar plays we have a much better chance but with or without him I don’t expect a win.
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Post by pickle20 on Jan 9, 2023 7:54:51 GMT -5
Rematch is set for Sunday 8:15 pm.
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Post by alienrace on Jan 9, 2023 8:11:00 GMT -5
Is there a team entering the playoffs with less momentum than the Ravens? Dolphins? If Lamar plays we have a much better chance but with or without him I don’t expect a win. Without Lamar there is little chance. That said, had we had competent QB play yesterday, we win that game. The defense smothered the Bengals who really only were able to do anything because of all of the turnovers. They were definitely not looking happy at the end of the game allowing a team to hang with them that was resting six starters on offense. I really don't have a clue about this game. Lamar, if he plays, probably rusty. Run game could be dominant though. Defense could continue with what they've done to them in both games this year. (of course now watch Marcus Peters allow 3 big TD passes, lol). After looking like the team to beat in the AFC a month ago, the Bengals have been underwhelming while continuing their win streak. It's hard to say - we haven't seen the Ravens at full strength in a long, long time.
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Post by pickle20 on Jan 9, 2023 9:47:10 GMT -5
The one thing that Lamar brings to the table just by showing up is preventing the Bengals defense from selling out against the run. Lamar isn't a great passer but he has his moments, although our WR are awful and people need to be fired for going into the season with this ragtag bunch of nobodies. So while Cincy will focus on stopping the run, at least they do have to consider Lamar as a passer which no defense has done since he got hurt.
If he's not 100 percent I don't think we can rely on him as a runner, which does limit his threat level.
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Post by Rael on Jan 9, 2023 9:52:55 GMT -5
The one thing that Lamar brings to the table just by showing up is preventing the Bengals defense from selling out against the run. Lamar isn't a great passer but he has his moments, although our WR are awful and people need to be fired for going into the season with this ragtag bunch of nobodies. So while Cincy will focus on stopping the run, at least they do have to consider Lamar as a passer which no defense has done since he got hurt. If he's not 100 percent I don't think we can rely on him as a runner, which does limit his threat level. He doesn't have to run a lot to help the run game. Just the idea of him running will make linebackers a bit more hesitant to commit to tackling the RB and could allow for a quick cut to take advantage of that hesitation. Have him keep on the RPO a couple of times early and it will loosen up the defense for the whole game.
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Post by pickle20 on Jan 9, 2023 10:46:58 GMT -5
ESPN has it on good authority that Lamar will play on Sunday.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jan 9, 2023 12:14:54 GMT -5
If Lamar wants to work in the fall he'd better play on Sunday and he'd better bring his top game. And I don't just mean "play here". A lot of read option guys start strong and then tail off. He's kind of on an RGIII trajectory, I feel.
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Post by alienrace on Jan 9, 2023 14:19:42 GMT -5
Just saw ESPN has a good source that Lamar will in fact be playing Sunday
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jan 9, 2023 14:31:40 GMT -5
Just saw ESPN has a good source that Lamar will in fact be playing Sunday Let's hope they are right. The Ravens have two chances to beat the Bengals, Slim and None. Whether Slim leaves town on a fast stage kinda depends on Lamar showing up ready to go.
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Post by alienrace on Jan 9, 2023 15:16:45 GMT -5
ESPN has it on good authority that Lamar will play on Sunday. Just saw ESPN has a good source that Lamar will in fact be playing Sunday God I'm getting old. LOL.
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Post by pickle20 on Jan 9, 2023 15:17:21 GMT -5
ESPN has it on good authority that Lamar will play on Sunday. Just saw ESPN has a good source that Lamar will in fact be playing Sunday God I'm getting old. LOL. And you liked my post.
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Post by Rael on Jan 9, 2023 15:25:56 GMT -5
Just saw ESPN has a good source that Lamar will in fact be playing Sunday Let's hope they are right. The Ravens have two chances to beat the Bengals, Slim and None. Whether Slim leaves town on a fast stage kinda depends on Lamar showing up ready to go. I have a bit more confidence. After the second half defense yesterday. I mean they got 21 points directly on turnovers. And they should have had more turnovers. Brown should have had a 4 in t 1 fumble day. Clean that up and we would have had a close game even without Andrews, Dobbins and Edwards. Speaking of which, are they going to play? The defense was great yesterday EXCEPT, can we please learn how to tackle? I only saw the first half as I was driving back from Pittsburgh but we should have had Burrows on the ground EASILY at least 3 times.
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Post by alienrace on Jan 9, 2023 15:49:35 GMT -5
The defense was great yesterday EXCEPT, can we please learn how to tackle? I only saw the first half as I was driving back from Pittsburgh but we should have had Burrows on the ground EASILY at least 3 times. Burrow definitely made some great escapes in the first half. The second half he wasn't quite so fortunate. Tackling was really good in the second half for sure.
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Post by alienrace on Jan 9, 2023 16:24:29 GMT -5
And you liked my post. Short term memories...ahh the memories Look like Adam Shefter has gotten to the bottom of it all, supposedly. Jackson's knee has had persistent swelling that was expected to go down weeks ago but hasn't. However, there is a strong chance he plays on Sunday.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jan 9, 2023 21:25:03 GMT -5
Look like Adam Shefter has gotten to the bottom of it all, supposedly. Jackson's knee has had persistent swelling that was expected to go down weeks ago but hasn't. However, there is a strong chance he plays on Sunday. That is cause for concern. If swelling was expected to resolve and has not done so then he is either not receiving the correct treatment for some reason, or there is something wrong that diagnosticians have so far failed to detect. Neither is good news.
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