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Post by Evil Yoda on Mar 13, 2023 15:42:25 GMT -5
Campbell released to make cap space for the tag number.
Ben Powers to Denver. Good for him.
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Post by alienrace on Mar 14, 2023 7:40:09 GMT -5
Campbell released to make cap space for the tag number. Ben Powers to Denver. Good for him. Yeah, losing Powers hurts - he was good depth. But it's a good move for him to be a full-time starter. Campbell will probably re-sign with the Ravens in a more cap friendly deal. I think he wants that 100th sack more than he admits. The teams that seemed possible destinations for Lamar are all out of the picture now. I think it's unlikely he plays for anyone other than the Ravens. There were some rumors about the 49'ers, possibly doing some trade involving Brock Purdy, but I don't think they'll do it. Would have to assume his elbow surgery went well, but he'd probably miss the start of the season. I don't think the 49'ers are dumb enough to trade him.
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Post by alienrace on Mar 16, 2023 11:29:07 GMT -5
Justice Hill re-signed to a 3 year deal. So the Ravens will have their top trio of RB's in 2023, which was the strength of the offense down the stretch. They really need to figure out the Lamar situation sooner than later so that they can start planning on getting the rest of the offense sorted.
It's been nearly 24 hours since Lamar could freely talk to teams. Nothing yet. Not even a rumor, other than the 49'ers which I think is mostly just speculation or wishful thinking on some parts.
Only 3 teams really left in the market are Washington, Houston, and Indianapolis. Houston seems very unlikely. They already have the 2nd pick in the draft. Carolina was mentioned previously, but they just signed Dalton and have the first pick in the draft. Houston is light years away from being competitive, doubtful Lamar would even consider them. Indy? Washington? Maybe.
Trades are probably not likely now, but I could see a team like the 49'ers maybe putting something together that took it down to one first round pick and throwing in Purdy and Lance. Lance is garbage and not really worth much despite being a former first round pick, but Purdy looks like the real deal. This would now require Lamar's cooperation though in signing his tender. Bottom line is the Ravens aren't going to entertain a trade without getting a viable QB somehow in the mix.
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Post by pickle20 on Mar 16, 2023 14:19:32 GMT -5
I don't see Lamar making sense for SF. They'd have to part with 2 first rounders and they just signed Darnold. Granted, that doesn't move the needle but they spent a first rounder on Lance and Purdy saved their season. Doesn't seem likely they give up that much to sign Lamar.
I think Lamar should have signed the $200M guaranteed deal the Ravens offered last offseason. Now after another year of mediocrity and injury, no team is going to sign him to a deal of his liking and give up 2 firsts.
So it will come back to whether he signs what Ravens are offering or plays 2023 under the franchise tag.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Mar 17, 2023 12:29:10 GMT -5
So far there does not seem to be much interest. But you'd be unlikely to declare that interest early; that would give the Ravens longer to decide whether they want to match. I'd think you'd express that interest closer to the deadline. Plus you'd prefer to avoid a bidding war that might arise if yours isn't the only non-Ravens offer.
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Post by pickle20 on Mar 17, 2023 12:47:59 GMT -5
So far there does not seem to be much interest. But you'd be unlikely to declare that interest early; that would give the Ravens longer to decide whether they want to match. I'd think you'd express that interest closer to the deadline. Plus you'd prefer to avoid a bidding war that might arise if yours isn't the only non-Ravens offer. I thought the Ravens have 5 days to match the offer.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Mar 17, 2023 18:31:04 GMT -5
So far there does not seem to be much interest. But you'd be unlikely to declare that interest early; that would give the Ravens longer to decide whether they want to match. I'd think you'd express that interest closer to the deadline. Plus you'd prefer to avoid a bidding war that might arise if yours isn't the only non-Ravens offer. I thought the Ravens have 5 days to match the offer. Ah. I assumed that they had to do so before the window on such things closed. If they have five days regardless then making an offer only affects that subset of the other teams who might be interested. I assume that 7/15 is the end of the window for other teams to make offers, since after that he has either reached and agreement on a contract or plays under the tag in 2023. But I don't know that for certain. Presumably, if the "Gotham Knights" make an offer on 7/14 then the "Metropolis Marauders" would have only one day to put in their own bid, while the Ravens would have five days from whenever the highest bid was revealed to decide whether to match it.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Mar 22, 2023 10:59:16 GMT -5
As this continues to drag on, the divorce seems more inevitable.
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Post by alienrace on Mar 22, 2023 11:14:33 GMT -5
As this continues to drag on, the divorce seems more inevitable. Agreed. And you have to think that the Ravens are internally having discussions about it. The wrong people are in Lamar's head right now, namely his mother and the NFLPA. He is screwing himself royally.
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Post by pickle20 on Mar 22, 2023 12:16:10 GMT -5
The Ravens have the nuts. Lamar has received no offers and scant interest. He either plays for the Ravens in 2023 under the franchise tag, agrees to a long-term deal or he could sit and further hurt his earning potential down the line.
I did see something that said he'd play under the tag if it came to it. He may be stubborn but I don't think he's stupid.
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Post by guido2 on Mar 25, 2023 11:39:23 GMT -5
The Ravens have the nuts. Lamar has received no offers and scant interest. He either plays for the Ravens in 2023 under the franchise tag, agrees to a long-term deal or he could sit and further hurt his earning potential down the line. I did see something that said he'd play under the tag if it came to it. He may be stubborn but I don't think he's stupid. Unless there is a surprise, it looks like Lamar is going to be here next year. I think the less than even lukewarm interest in him.....an MVP/etc/etc QB no less..... is a pretty good indicator. And my bet is that he will pout and hold out, skip spring training and all the rest..... maybe to go so far as to sit the entire season (?), we have seen other tagged players do this. I think and feel this way because of that stunt he pulled of not showing up at the playoff. Sure he couldn't play, but he could have lent moral support and yeah maybe saw something as the game progressed and given Huntley a tip or two that might have led to a victory. IMHO.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Mar 25, 2023 16:39:54 GMT -5
The Ravens have the nuts. Lamar has received no offers and scant interest. He either plays for the Ravens in 2023 under the franchise tag, agrees to a long-term deal or he could sit and further hurt his earning potential down the line. I did see something that said he'd play under the tag if it came to it. He may be stubborn but I don't think he's stupid. Unless there is a surprise, it looks like Lamar is going to be here next year. I think the less than even lukewarm interest in him.....an MVP/etc/etc QB no less..... is a pretty good indicator. And my bet is that he will pout and hold out, skip spring training and all the rest..... maybe to go so far as to sit the entire season (?), we have seen other tagged players do this. I think and feel this way because of that stunt he pulled of not showing up at the playoff. Sure he couldn't play, but he could have lent moral support and yeah maybe saw something as the game progressed and given Huntley a tip or two that might have led to a victory. IMHO. It will be a good indication of his maturity level to see how he handles this. If he does what you suggest they need to cut ties with him and find his successor.
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Post by guido2 on Mar 25, 2023 18:19:52 GMT -5
Unless there is a surprise, it looks like Lamar is going to be here next year. I think the less than even lukewarm interest in him.....an MVP/etc/etc QB no less..... is a pretty good indicator. And my bet is that he will pout and hold out, skip spring training and all the rest..... maybe to go so far as to sit the entire season (?), we have seen other tagged players do this. I think and feel this way because of that stunt he pulled of not showing up at the playoff. Sure he couldn't play, but he could have lent moral support and yeah maybe saw something as the game progressed and given Huntley a tip or two that might have led to a victory. IMHO. It will be a good indication of his maturity level to see how he handles this. If he does what you suggest they need to cut ties with him and find his successor. I hope I am wrong, but I think I am not. Frankly, if the Ravens could find someone to trade/whatever with and somehow get a high draft pick that might let them get a QB of worth. Let him go and let him be somebody elses problem. But as I said, the lukewarm response so far indicates that..... well .... everybody else realizes that it is not worth the risk. That said and to emphasize. Believe it or not, I played football in high school, with both Joe Theismann and Drew Pearson. Both were on South Rivers' HS team and both went on to the NFL. Drew was and still is classy and a great human being. Joe.... well Joe was Donald Trump in shoulder pads. Drew would show up unannounced at our school ( I was a teacher there at that point) and bring all sorts of Dallas 'stuff'. Joe on the other hand was was invited to a anniversary of SR football which coincided with his graduation and leaving to go on to Notre Dame and the NFL. Guess what, the SOB wanted to be paid a stipend AND all expenses including flight/lodging etc. Now I am not saying that Lamar is Joe..... but both seem to be 'it's all about me'. I guess we'll see. I just hope that we don't end up in another Chris Davis situation somehow. Long term contract and spend more time in the training room than on the field.
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