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Post by alienrace on Apr 10, 2023 8:36:00 GMT -5
It's definitely interesting and probably throws a curveball to the largely speculative narrative. No way Beckam signs unless something regarding the QB position is happening, or was promised.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Apr 10, 2023 17:22:45 GMT -5
It's definitely interesting and probably throws a curveball to the largely speculative narrative. No way Beckam signs unless something regarding the QB position is happening, or was promised. Chant is Jackson recruited Beckham. So I guess Jackson plans to play. Well, for the first 3/4 of the season or so, anyway.
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Post by guido2 on Apr 12, 2023 18:43:40 GMT -5
It's definitely interesting and probably throws a curveball to the largely speculative narrative. No way Beckam signs unless something regarding the QB position is happening, or was promised. Chant is Jackson recruited Beckham. So I guess Jackson plans to play. Well, for the first 3/4 of the season or so, anyway. Well, say what you will. But the Raven's called Jacksons bluff again. And the management shot down another fallacy. 1- Ok. Though not said out loud, Jackson never said it ..... but it was an obvious complaint. That the Ravens.... aside from the TE's haven't had serious deep threat receivers for him to throw to. And the few that came close, broke like toys more frequently that I change my underwear. So that point is tabled as to what Lamar's worth is. OK prove it. 2- It is pretty apparent that Jacksons head makes him out to be worth more than the market is willing to pay for numerous reasons. He breaks at the worst time, he had no real offensive threats .... especially at wide receiver..... and the former offensive coordinator was ..... well whatever. And, he had no takers, he now has a really solid O'line, God and health willing ..... he has a really good group of running backs, TE's ....obvious.... and now he has TWO experienced slot and wide receivers of All pro caliber plus (hopefully) several potential breakout ones. So, I guess as they say it is time for Lamar to put his damn cell phone away, seize the opportunity to PROVE that he is NOT a one dimensional QB. Now, can he man up and take that on? We'll see.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2023 8:46:14 GMT -5
So is Jackson now with the Ravens now or not?
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Post by alienrace on Apr 14, 2023 9:15:13 GMT -5
So is Jackson now with the Ravens now or not? He has yet to sign his franchise tag tender, so technically he is not and could sit out the season. Generally players don't sign the tender right away so that they can hear offers from other teams, if they are on the unrestricted version which Jackson is. I don't see any scenario where Jackson isn't playing for the Ravens in 2023. No teams are interested in setting the price for the Ravens, and hopefully he doesn't do something incredibly stupid like sit the season out. I think with Beckam in the mix, that's really unlikely he'd pass up the chance to have a top receiver to throw to.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Apr 14, 2023 15:47:30 GMT -5
I expect him to play for the Ravens in '23 and then move on, as he will probably be playing angry. It is also unclear how many weeks he will play before the inevitable injury, and he will have no compelling reason to hurry back from even a minor problem, as well. In short, I expect an acrimonious divorce.
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Post by guido2 on Apr 15, 2023 18:21:24 GMT -5
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Post by Evil Yoda on Apr 16, 2023 16:14:53 GMT -5
I don't know anything about Lombardi's credibility, but... if the tail thinks it can wag the dog, they need to move on.
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Post by alienrace on Apr 17, 2023 11:41:09 GMT -5
I don't know anything about Lombardi's credibility, but... if the tail thinks it can wag the dog, they need to move on. He has none. Jalen Hurts just signed a 255 million, 5 year contract with 178 million guaranteed. This is the bar that has been set that is more realistic.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Apr 17, 2023 11:47:12 GMT -5
I don't know anything about Lombardi's credibility, but... if the tail thinks it can wag the dog, they need to move on. He has none. Jalen Hurts just signed a 255 million, 5 year contract with 178 million guaranteed. This is the bar that has been set that is more realistic. Perhaps the Ravens should release a statement, as a gesture of good faith, denying Lombardi's assertion. Granted, that makes it seem like Lombardi matters. But if the Ravens deny it that is more credible than if Jackson denies it. Hopefully Jackson comes to agree with your assessment of the Hurts deal as a more realistic benchmark. Then they could sign him and move on with the offseason.
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Post by alienrace on Apr 18, 2023 12:10:25 GMT -5
Just saw on FB, Ian Rappaport reporting that the Ravens and Lamar are getting close on a deal.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Apr 24, 2023 12:39:41 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see what kind of deal they agree to, if they can agree. At this point Lamar's best choice might be to play under the tag and show the Ravens that he's worth what he thinks he is worth, if he can. At a minimum that means he plays more than 2/3 of the season and it means they make the playoffs, if he things he's worth Watson money.
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Post by alienrace on Apr 24, 2023 13:22:30 GMT -5
if he things he's worth Watson money. The Hurts contract shows that he isn't, and nobody is. He may be starting to get it. Calais Campbell said Friday that Lamar has told him personally that there is some "wiggle room" with what he is asking.
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Post by Rael on Apr 24, 2023 14:33:04 GMT -5
Jalen Hurts: "Money is great but championships are better".
Lamar Jackson: "I want 200 million or you'll never see me on the field in the last quarter of the season, ever again".
Ok, I made up that last quote, but Hurts statement makes Jackson look that much worse.
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Post by pickle20 on Apr 24, 2023 14:40:41 GMT -5
Saw a mock draft that had the Ravens trading LJ to the Niners for Lance and a first rounder.
Not sure I love that.
I think I'd rather have Lamar if he comes down from that mountain he thinks he's on top of.
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Post by alienrace on Apr 24, 2023 15:26:26 GMT -5
Saw a mock draft that had the Ravens trading LJ to the Niners for Lance and a first rounder. I highly doubt the Ravens would make that trade, Lance has very little value at this point. Now if they wanted to trade Purdy, I think there'd be some interest.
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Post by alienrace on Apr 26, 2023 10:22:12 GMT -5
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Post by guido2 on Apr 26, 2023 15:36:07 GMT -5
I just love the tail wagging the dog. Guess next Lamar is going to demand to be a part owner.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Apr 27, 2023 11:12:06 GMT -5
DeCosta sound bite on the news this morning about how the Ravens traditionally draft defensive players early, and how they want more picks. Given that anything said before the draft is at best misdirection and at worst an outright lie, I wonder if they plan to trade *up* so they can take a QB. We'll know by tomorrow...
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Post by pickle20 on Apr 27, 2023 13:02:22 GMT -5
Saw a mock draft that had the Ravens trading LJ to the Niners for Lance and a first rounder. I highly doubt the Ravens would make that trade, Lance has very little value at this point. Now if they wanted to trade Purdy, I think there'd be some interest. I want nothing to do with Purdy. Not crazy about Lance either.
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Post by alienrace on Apr 27, 2023 13:56:55 GMT -5
I want nothing to do with Purdy. What why?
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Post by pickle20 on Apr 27, 2023 14:14:18 GMT -5
I want nothing to do with Purdy. What why? Game manager. After his injury I wonder about him too.
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Post by alienrace on Apr 27, 2023 14:37:35 GMT -5
Game manager. After his injury I wonder about him too. I dunno about that. He had a strong supporting cast, but he still made big plays and was deadly accurate and had excellent pocket presence. His numbers (107 rating, 65 qbr, 16 td 4 int, 8.1 ypa) those are really good. There's a reason that the Niners have said it's his team now. He's got the "it" factor, reminds me a lot of a young Tom Brady, but way more athletic. The injury shouldn't be an issue. Surgery went well, it's the same thing Josh Allen had done.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Apr 27, 2023 15:29:34 GMT -5
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Post by alienrace on Apr 27, 2023 15:34:25 GMT -5
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Post by alienrace on Apr 27, 2023 15:36:25 GMT -5
5 year extension, details coming soon.
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Post by soulflower on Apr 27, 2023 15:42:46 GMT -5
5 year extension, details coming soon. I wonder if there's more pressure before or after pro-athletes get their big payday? Hopefully he stays healthy.
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Post by alienrace on Apr 27, 2023 15:45:57 GMT -5
I wonder if there's more pressure before or after pro-athletes get their big payday? Hopefully he stays healthy. I'd say more, in the sense that you won't get one if you don't create value. As for staying healthy, I'd say that is going to be his biggest challenge going forward. To that end, the Ravens need to make sure he has a decent offensive line in front of him. Both of his injuries were because the line couldn't protect him, and he got hurt in the pocket. Ravens have had mostly poor pass protection for as long as they've been around. A few years they had some good personel and schemes, like the last super bowl year and 2014.
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Post by pickle20 on Apr 27, 2023 18:29:43 GMT -5
Glad he’s signed and coming back. Situation was dire without him.
That said it’ll be interesting to see how fans treat him. I imagine boo birds will be out in force when he has a bad game.
Sure did seem like fans turned on him last year when he didn’t play in playoffs.
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Post by guido2 on Apr 27, 2023 18:50:05 GMT -5
5 year extension, details coming soon. I wonder if there's more pressure before or after pro-athletes get their big payday? Hopefully he stays healthy. EXACTLY. All this is a big deal..... cause he signed the damn contract. Now what will matter is what are the terms of getting a 5 year contract at around 52 M. Is it guaranteed, how much, is it based on performance, is it paid forward or backward or what? And in conjunction with that.... how is going to effect cap space, and whom they can draft. But wait, Lamar will wag the dog to dictate what the decision makers should make. I dunno, I hate to say this but this smells so much of Chris Davis. But we'll see.
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