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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 9:31:03 GMT -5
I think most of us have read articles about the loss of civility in our society. I think I see it now more than ever. I think where it aggravates me the most is when I’m trying to make a left turn and the person in the crosswalk, usually a teenager, saunters across like they have nothing else to do. A week or so ago this high schooler stopped in the crosswalk to take a call! I realize they have the right of way but there was a time when they would at least keep walking.
Am I just getting old?
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Post by guido2 on Oct 28, 2018 11:34:11 GMT -5
Nope you are not getting old at all.
It is all about me now. I am more important than you ..go f yourself....and what are you going to do about it? Attitude.
More than once as of late....I am driving up my street....and you got a few kids spread across the road....there are sidewalks on both sides....just mossing along...you tap the horn...and for the most part...well they are either deaf (which is possible) or just telling you to go f-yourself and keep mossing along....and legally they know if you did something...you would be in deep crap ...not them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 12:23:55 GMT -5
Sorry but you sound like a bunch of grumpy old men to me. And Guido as far as the "all about me now", that has been going on for quite some time.
My neighbor complains about the young people who live down the street, he complains about the mail carrier who is a young women probably in her late 20's/early 30's, in essence he complains about everyone under 50. I asked him one day if he thought he was better than the young people of today. He said of course he was, he was brought up to be respectful of his elders so I asked him: "Who brought up today's youth?" Seems to me that if today's youth are so disrespectful and "me first" they were taught that way by people who are now complaining about them being that way.
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Post by cowboyz on Oct 28, 2018 13:26:08 GMT -5
I'm tired of it myself. So many people and not just young people are "all about me". Common decency seems to have taken a back seat to people doing what's best for them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 13:39:10 GMT -5
I'm tired of it myself. So many people and not just young people are "all about me". Common decency seems to have taken a back seat to people doing what's best for them. I can agree with this. It just irritates me when people just blame the young for being selfish and lacking common decency. I see a lot of older people being just as obnoxious as some younger people.
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Post by palealeman on Oct 28, 2018 13:42:14 GMT -5
I agree, Mrs. Smith. Want to have "fun" some day? Go the the grocery store on Monday morning when all the old folks are shopping and try to avoid their grocery carts! They generally go where they're going and no one better be in their way.
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Post by cyhmn on Oct 28, 2018 14:45:31 GMT -5
I think most of us have read articles about the loss of civility in our society. I think I see it now more than ever. I think where it aggravates me the most is when I’m trying to make a left turn and the person in the crosswalk, usually a teenager, saunters across like they have nothing else to do. A week or so ago this high schooler stopped in the crosswalk to take a call! I realize they have the right of way but there was a time when they would at least keep walking. Am I just getting old? I'm 60 but I find this post to be a perfect reflection of how the generation that invented instant gratification complains about people who are just an extension of this thinking. The latest generation did not come by their behavior by accident....the boomers have ruined this country in so many ways it is sad to think about the impacts caused by a "me first attitude".....
TIME Magazine has chronicled the attention-adoring Boomer Generation from the start, beginning with a February 1948 article that described the postwar population burst as a “Baby Boom.” Twenty years after the boom began, TIME’s “Man of the Year” featured the generation “25 and Under.” When the Boomers hit 40, TIME wrote about “Growing Pains at 40.”
I suggest one engage in some self-reflection and embrace the legacy us boomers are leaving behind....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 15:02:31 GMT -5
I think most of us have read articles about the loss of civility in our society. I think I see it now more than ever. I think where it aggravates me the most is when I’m trying to make a left turn and the person in the crosswalk, usually a teenager, saunters across like they have nothing else to do. A week or so ago this high schooler stopped in the crosswalk to take a call! I realize they have the right of way but there was a time when they would at least keep walking. Am I just getting old? I'm 60 but I find this post to be a perfect reflection of how the generation that invented instant gratification complains about people who are just an extension of this thinking. The latest generation did not come by their behavior by accident....the boomers have ruined this country in so many ways it is sad to think about the impacts caused by a "me first attitude".....
TIME Magazine has chronicled the attention-adoring Boomer Generation from the start, beginning with a February 1948 article that described the postwar population burst as a “Baby Boom.” Twenty years after the boom began, TIME’s “Man of the Year” featured the generation “25 and Under.” When the Boomers hit 40, TIME wrote about “Growing Pains at 40.”
I suggest one engage in some self-reflection and embrace the legacy us boomers are leaving behind....
I'm 71 which means that I am one of the first of the boomers and I get fed up with my generation all the time. Just because we are one of the largest generations, we think we can do whatever we damn well please and to hell with everyone else. Maybe not all of us think like that but too many of us do.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 15:10:25 GMT -5
I wasn’t taught that way, nor were my kids, nor is my grandson. Society works when people respect each other. I would never drive through a crosswalk when someone is in it; the quid pro quo for that is people don’t dawdle in the crosswalk.
Someone mentioned shopping with the older folks in the morning. I don’t mind that; what I mind is the shopper who parks his or her damn cart dead center in the middle of the aisle.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 15:28:32 GMT -5
I wasn’t taught that way, nor were my kids, nor is my grandson. Society works when people respect each other. I would never drive through a crosswalk when someone is in it; the quid pro quo for that is people don’t dawdle in the crosswalk. Someone mentioned shopping with the older folks in the morning. I don’t mind that; what I mind is the shopper who parks his or her damn cart dead center in the middle of the aisle. A lot of us were not taught that way and our kids/grandkids were not taught that way, unfortunately too many of my (our?) generation didn't bother to teach our kids to teach their kids how a decent society works. Today's youth did not just decide on their own to be disrespectful. It is a learned behavior which means that they had to learn it from their elders. When the old guy screams at the kid to get off his lawn and then the kid screams at an old lady to hurry up across the street, how come only the kid gets criticized?
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Post by guido2 on Oct 28, 2018 15:36:41 GMT -5
Sorry but you sound like a bunch of grumpy old men to me. And Guido as far as the "all about me now", that has been going on for quite some time. My neighbor complains about the young people who live down the street, he complains about the mail carrier who is a young women probably in her late 20's/early 30's, in essence he complains about everyone under 50. I asked him one day if he thought he was better than the young people of today. He said of course he was, he was brought up to be respectful of his elders so I asked him: "Who brought up today's youth?" Seems to me that if today's youth are so disrespectful and "me first" they were taught that way by people who are now complaining about them being that way. Hmmmmm.... I dunno....my approach is sort of... It is illegal for you to block the road. You regardless of age should know that.' Also, I don't expect special treatment at 65 or my wife at 70. But I do expect what used to be 'social niceties' like please and thank you ….not grunts or 'the eye ball'. There are plenty of young kids/adults out there... I have even have had some hold a door open. And I say Thank you...I can see it in their eyes....I don't think many adults...as you point out...extend the courtesy.
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Post by guido2 on Oct 28, 2018 15:40:51 GMT -5
I wasn’t taught that way, nor were my kids, nor is my grandson. Society works when people respect each other. I would never drive through a crosswalk when someone is in it; the quid pro quo for that is people don’t dawdle in the crosswalk. Someone mentioned shopping with the older folks in the morning. I don’t mind that; what I mind is the shopper who parks his or her damn cart dead center in the middle of the aisle. What I hate is when some damn jerk double parts in a one way road....and expects you to back up because they are picking someone up. I also hate...idiots that blow the horn to pick someone for church at 6AM on Sunday....and blow and blow and blow. Legs broke....KNOCK ON THE DOOR. Jesus would want you to. 😸
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Post by Bartman on Oct 28, 2018 15:42:31 GMT -5
Too many people just think they can do whatever they want. They drive like crap, walk like crap, talk like crap and everything else. You just can't go through life like that. In my job, we went through quite a few Young people that you just couldn't teach them to do a Job. After a couple months we had to let them go for lateness, absenteeism or just non-performance. Best guy we got was Older into his 50's and he was the best thing to come along since sliced bread! Sadly after like 5 years or so he had the Big Cackaroo one day at work and just dropped dead. Now I have one guy in his 40's that's doing Fine but this kid in his 20's we have, well I don't know how much longer we can keep him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 16:01:49 GMT -5
Sorry but you sound like a bunch of grumpy old men to me. And Guido as far as the "all about me now", that has been going on for quite some time. My neighbor complains about the young people who live down the street, he complains about the mail carrier who is a young women probably in her late 20's/early 30's, in essence he complains about everyone under 50. I asked him one day if he thought he was better than the young people of today. He said of course he was, he was brought up to be respectful of his elders so I asked him: "Who brought up today's youth?" Seems to me that if today's youth are so disrespectful and "me first" they were taught that way by people who are now complaining about them being that way. Hmmmmm.... I dunno....my approach is sort of... It is illegal for you to block the road. You regardless of age should know that.' Also, I don't expect special treatment at 65 or my wife at 70. But I do expect what used to be 'social niceties' like please and thank you ….not grunts or 'the eye ball'. There are plenty of young kids/adults out there... I have even have had some hold a door open. And I say Thank you...I can see it in their eyes....I don't think many adults...as you point out...extend the courtesy. I'm not saying anything about anything being legal or illegal. All I'm saying is that the youth of today are not different than the oldsters of today. There are inconsiderates among all age brackets. Too many older people tend to think that only the youth are self-centered, obnoxious jerks.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 17:17:45 GMT -5
My favorite is kids texting each other when they are 5 ft apart.
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Post by guido2 on Oct 28, 2018 18:02:06 GMT -5
I don't think sweating all this small stuff is good for anyone's health. Remember to take deep breaths and let your brain move along. Spright ...with all due respect. What you think is small stuff is NOT for all others small stuff. And my brain moves along just fine....thank you very much.
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Post by apexbud on Oct 28, 2018 18:36:06 GMT -5
In the metro area, my job consisted of a constant interaction with people bringing their cars to me to either be maintained, or repaired.
Sometimes, big money was involved, and that can bring out the worst in people. Not only did I have to deal with multiple types of personalities, sometimes those multiple personalities surfaced in one person. I believe it was one of the worst of the "retail jobs" out there.
I retired to West Virginia to get out of the Metro area, and out into a wilderness situation to be away from toxic, obnoxious people.
But I have discovered something. Out here, it's like I've been transported back to the '50s or '60s. People drive politely. Car drivers wave to passing cars, and to folks in their yards. Young people hold doors for you, and speak respectfully. The art of conversation with neighbors, cashiers, road construction crews, and fellow diners in restaurants and bars, still exist! Here, people still take the time to be civil to one another. It has been an uplifting revelation.
My neighborhood is miles away from the nearest paved road. This summer we had a nasty storm that blew maybe 30 trees down across the road out. Electricity and phone lines were down. The neighbors gathered with chainsaws, pickups, ropes and chains to cut our way out to the main road. People along the way brought out cold drinks and sandwiches to those working to clear the road out. It turned into a big work party! Cut wood was loaded into pickups and delivered to those in the neighborhood who heated in the winter with wood. The road was cleared before the electricity was back on.
People pulled together, and helped each other out spontaneously. It was a great feeling.
Now when I wave to folks in their yards cutting grass, I'm waving to my friends, Hank, or Miz JoEtta, or Mr. Cannon.
Moving here has restored my faith in humanity. I just wish I had moved here years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 20:46:54 GMT -5
I wasn’t taught that way, nor were my kids, nor is my grandson. Society works when people respect each other. I would never drive through a crosswalk when someone is in it; the quid pro quo for that is people don’t dawdle in the crosswalk. Someone mentioned shopping with the older folks in the morning. I don’t mind that; what I mind is the shopper who parks his or her damn cart dead center in the middle of the aisle. Sideways! A "excuse me" and push them aside works for me BUT it shouldn't be needed.
How do I see it.... pay phones no longer exist and no self serve even for handicap... how do they get gas?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 20:59:30 GMT -5
In the metro area, my job consisted of a constant interaction with people bringing their cars to me to either be maintained, or repaired. Sometimes, big money was involved, and that can bring out the worst in people. Not only did I have to deal with multiple types of personalities, sometimes those multiple personalities surfaced in one person. I believe it was one of the worst of the "retail jobs" out there. I retired to West Virginia to get out of the Metro area, and out into a wilderness situation to be away from toxic, obnoxious people. But I have discovered something. Out here, it's like I've been transported back to the '50s or '60s. People drive politely. Car drivers wave to passing cars, and to folks in their yards. Young people hold doors for you, and speak respectfully. The art of conversation with neighbors, cashiers, road construction crews, and fellow diners in restaurants and bars, still exist! Here, people still take the time to be civil to one another. It has been an uplifting revelation. My neighborhood is miles away from the nearest paved road. This summer we had a nasty storm that blew maybe 30 trees down across the road out. Electricity and phone lines were down. The neighbors gathered with chainsaws, pickups, ropes and chains to cut our way out to the main road. People along the way brought out cold drinks and sandwiches to those working to clear the road out. It turned into a big work party! Cut wood was loaded into pickups and delivered to those in the neighborhood who heated in the winter with wood. The road was cleared before the electricity was back on. People pulled together, and helped each other out spontaneously. It was a great feeling. Now when I wave to folks in their yards cutting grass, I'm waving to my friends, Hank, or Miz JoEtta, or Mr. Cannon. Moving here has restored my faith in humanity. I just wish I had moved here years ago. Further out you get the better it is. I'm 7 miles away from nearest store, gas, bread anything. Paved roads and they do a pretty good job of plowing, neighbors are fine for the most part, only have to deal with one. Grandkids love ATV rides up the hills with Popop. Life is good, no complaints, no poachers, trespassers or thieves (knock on wood) until I turn on the news or get the tax bill. I'd LIKE to be more your situation but I made my last move 4 years ago. Enjoy your solitude and never look back until you can no longer physically do it. You did well!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 21:04:35 GMT -5
My favorite is kids texting each other when they are 5 ft apart. Dumb yes BUT at least they're not hurting anybody. It DID irk me when two girls in their early 20's were doing it to each other at a Japanese Steak house hibachi while the chef was asking them if they wanted this or that with their meal. They were sitting NEXT to each other.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 9:12:22 GMT -5
How do you know who these kids are actually texting? Are you leaning over their shoulders, reading their phones? I was in a restaurant in Nashville and saw a couple ladies texting during dinner, unlike you, I didn't assume that they were texting each other but friends/relatives who were not at the restaurant with them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 9:20:05 GMT -5
How do you know who these kids are actually texting? Are you leaning over their shoulders, reading their phones? I was in a restaurant in Nashville and saw a couple ladies texting during dinner, unlike you, I didn't assume that they were texting each other but friends/relatives who were not at the restaurant with them. Fingers rapidly moving on a phone usually means texting. I've seen it done. Many times it too send something either found while scanning. Maybe its easy to just send it to them than show it and talk about it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 10:01:16 GMT -5
How do you know who these kids are actually texting? Are you leaning over their shoulders, reading their phones? I was in a restaurant in Nashville and saw a couple ladies texting during dinner, unlike you, I didn't assume that they were texting each other but friends/relatives who were not at the restaurant with them. Fingers rapidly moving on a phone usually means texting. I've seen it done. Many times it too send something either found while scanning. Maybe its easy to just send it to them than show it and talk about it. I know what texting looks like. I'm wondering exactly how you know that they are texting each other and not someone not there. Seems you are spending a lot of time watching what the young girls are doing and not paying attention to the people you are with.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 10:44:13 GMT -5
Fingers rapidly moving on a phone usually means texting. I've seen it done. Many times it too send something either found while scanning. Maybe its easy to just send it to them than show it and talk about it. I know what texting looks like. I'm wondering exactly how you know that they are texting each other and not someone not there. Seems you are spending a lot of time watching what the young girls are doing and not paying attention to the people you are with. I've seen both sexes do it. I've seen kids of family & friends do it. I've seen my own do it at a football tailgate. They would send something to each other 10 ft away.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 10:44:36 GMT -5
In the metro area, my job consisted of a constant interaction with people bringing their cars to me to either be maintained, or repaired. Sometimes, big money was involved, and that can bring out the worst in people. Not only did I have to deal with multiple types of personalities, sometimes those multiple personalities surfaced in one person. I believe it was one of the worst of the "retail jobs" out there. I retired to West Virginia to get out of the Metro area, and out into a wilderness situation to be away from toxic, obnoxious people. But I have discovered something. Out here, it's like I've been transported back to the '50s or '60s. People drive politely. Car drivers wave to passing cars, and to folks in their yards. Young people hold doors for you, and speak respectfully. The art of conversation with neighbors, cashiers, road construction crews, and fellow diners in restaurants and bars, still exist! Here, people still take the time to be civil to one another. It has been an uplifting revelation. My neighborhood is miles away from the nearest paved road. This summer we had a nasty storm that blew maybe 30 trees down across the road out. Electricity and phone lines were down. The neighbors gathered with chainsaws, pickups, ropes and chains to cut our way out to the main road. People along the way brought out cold drinks and sandwiches to those working to clear the road out. It turned into a big work party! Cut wood was loaded into pickups and delivered to those in the neighborhood who heated in the winter with wood. The road was cleared before the electricity was back on. People pulled together, and helped each other out spontaneously. It was a great feeling. Now when I wave to folks in their yards cutting grass, I'm waving to my friends, Hank, or Miz JoEtta, or Mr. Cannon. Moving here has restored my faith in humanity. I just wish I had moved here years ago. Same her in South Brunswick Co NC. The interesting part is most of my neighbors are seniors from the North, but the millennials here also are more respectful of even the little things. Could be hearing the waves washing up on the beach continuously. Want to get really discouraged... youtube search Uber riders. Ugh!
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Post by guido2 on Oct 29, 2018 10:58:52 GMT -5
Fingers rapidly moving on a phone usually means texting. I've seen it done. Many times it too send something either found while scanning. Maybe its easy to just send it to them than show it and talk about it. I know what texting looks like. I'm wondering exactly how you know that they are texting each other and not someone not there. Seems you are spending a lot of time watching what the young girls are doing and not paying attention to the people you are with. I have no idea what he saw....but I have seen it...easy to ID. Tap tap tap...a look to the other... a giggle ….tap tap...giggle...both giggle....tap tap tap....a look at the other a slight shove a giggle....tap tap tap. Easy really.
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Post by guido2 on Oct 29, 2018 11:04:56 GMT -5
I know what texting looks like. I'm wondering exactly how you know that they are texting each other and not someone not there. Seems you are spending a lot of time watching what the young girls are doing and not paying attention to the people you are with. I've seen both sexes do it. I've seen kids of family & friends do it. I've seen my own do it at a football tailgate. They would send something to each other 10 ft away. My sister and BIL are way different in many ways....but with their girls …. I give them credit. If you are at the table ...no cell....if you in a conversation...face to face...no phone...and heaven help you if an adult is talking to them and they whip out the phone. We were all out at a local fair in Ventnor. My sis and BIL are the unofficial Mayors of the town...know everybody. So there was a lot of stopping and chit chatting. And the girls were spoken to about college and stuff by adults. Well one of the got a 'bing!' and pulled out her cell....smoothest action I ever saw. She pulls it out...my BIL...in one motion...all while talking to someone...like a magician...one move...cell...hand...in Dad's pocket. Never missed a beat kept talking smooth as silk....even while turning it off. Very cool.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 11:22:55 GMT -5
I know what texting looks like. I'm wondering exactly how you know that they are texting each other and not someone not there. Seems you are spending a lot of time watching what the young girls are doing and not paying attention to the people you are with. I have no idea what he saw....but I have seen it...easy to ID. Tap tap tap...a look to the other... a giggle ….tap tap...giggle...both giggle....tap tap tap....a look at the other a slight shove a giggle....tap tap tap. Easy really. So you know for a fact that they aren't texting friends of theirs who are not present. My sister-in-law and I have done exactly what you are describing only we were texting my other sisters-in-law not each other but I guess you would have assumed we were texting each other.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 11:37:06 GMT -5
People think I'm texting but I'm really playing "Candy Crush".
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Post by guido2 on Oct 29, 2018 17:16:31 GMT -5
I have no idea what he saw....but I have seen it...easy to ID. Tap tap tap...a look to the other... a giggle ….tap tap...giggle...both giggle....tap tap tap....a look at the other a slight shove a giggle....tap tap tap. Easy really. So you know for a fact that they aren't texting friends of theirs who are not present. My sister-in-law and I have done exactly what you are describing only we were texting my other sisters-in-law not each other but I guess you would have assumed we were texting each other. I think you are making way to big of a deal of this. Fine...whatever...
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