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Post by alienrace on Feb 20, 2024 9:00:45 GMT -5
With quite a few FA's, the Ravens are going to be busy.
By and large though, they should be able to retain most of the ones they want.
Nelson Agholor re-signed for a 1-year deal. That's a solid move, he was productive in his role. It also signifies that Beckam is likely not in their plans, especially given his 15-mil salary last season.
Zeitler and Simpson not extended. Simpson not surprising, he wasn't very good. Zeitler is surprising, as he expressed interest in doing that before FA started.
Dobbins and Edwards are almost surely gone. Dobbins just, sadly, cannot stay healthy. Edwards has been going downhill production wise, though he did score a lot of short TD's this year. Rumors are (very strong rumors) is that the Ravens and Derrick Henry have a mutual interest. That would be a pretty big upgrade. Hopefully Keaton Mitchell will be ready at some point early next season.
Other rumor is that the Ravens are moving on from Ronnie Stanely and Marlon Humphrey. Stanely for sure has been a shell of himself and a liability at times. Humphrey seems to be the new Jimmy Smith. Ravens do have a lot of younger options in their stockpile. I suspect the Ravens are looking squarely at OL in this draft as the skill positions are pretty stacked.
Kyle Van Noy has said "It will be expensive to sign me". I figured they'd only keep one of him or Clowney, so it's looking more like Clowney.
Geno Stone is probably gone, given he's earned starter money and the Ravens have Hamilton (an emerging All-pro) and Marcus Williams.
Madabuike will be surely franchised.
That leaves Queen as the highest profile FA question for the Ravens. If they are indeed moving on from Stanely and Humphrey, it sounds like that's making room for either Queen, or Madaduike, and Derrick Henry.
The rest of the FA's are lower priority/profile and easily replaced.
It's interesting that a number of talking heads are all-in on the Bengals or Bills next year and seem to overlook the Ravens (despite ranking them at the top of their "way too early power rankings". The stigma of choking in the AFCC is lingering for sure. Both the Bengals and Bills have significant personnel decisions looming. IMO the Bills might be the team to fall the furthest next season. I think the Bengals will find a way to keep some of their talent and contend, but the Ravens are still the team to beat in the division. The Browns have QB issues, among other things, and the Steelers look like cellar dwellers.
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Post by pickle20 on Feb 20, 2024 9:08:30 GMT -5
Yeah the defense is going to look a lot different next year. Could still be good but it'll be a step down from this year's defense.
I don't pay attention to sports media. Especially during the offseason where they're looking for stories to manufacture and give themselves something to talk about until the draft and then preseason.
I'm focused on the Orioles for the time being.
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Post by pickle20 on Feb 20, 2024 9:10:29 GMT -5
Who was the LB who played really well against the Steelers in the last regular season game?
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Post by alienrace on Feb 20, 2024 9:22:27 GMT -5
Who was the LB who played really well against the Steelers in the last regular season game? Trenton Simpson, rookie. He or, David Ojabo (if he can stay healthy) could be potential replacements for Queen.
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Post by ivanbalt on Feb 20, 2024 9:38:00 GMT -5
I just can't see Humphrey getting released, but who knows?
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Post by alienrace on Feb 20, 2024 9:55:59 GMT -5
I just can't see Humphrey getting released, but who knows? Yeah, that's a tough one, IMO. He's still not that old, but maybe they know something we don't, or maybe they feel one of the younger guys is ready to step in. Stanely on the other hand, seems like a no-brainer. Ditto for John Simpson. The one that puzzles me is Zeitler. Unless maybe he was asking for too much.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Feb 20, 2024 11:31:47 GMT -5
They could not reach a deal with Edwards, Zeitler or Stone. With Edwards gone and J. K. Dobbins athletically old now, the running room will look... different next season. They will certainly miss Zeitler or Stone, both of whom someone will pay stupid cash to acquire.
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Post by alienrace on Feb 20, 2024 11:34:04 GMT -5
J. K. Dobbins athletically old now, the running room will look... different next season. My money is on Derrick Henry, Justice Hill, and Keaton Mitchell. Possibly they retain Dalvin Cook as Mitchell's status will be unclear, and probably best-case scenario is that he's ready by the start of the season after preseason. Henry and Ravens are reported to have mutual interest.
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Post by pickle20 on Feb 20, 2024 13:09:40 GMT -5
Henry could be a decent add but his days of being a bellcow RB are over. Could be a solid change of pace with Mitchell. That said for the talk of Edwards decline and age, Henry is older.
What is Mitchell's time table? I think I heard he'll miss camp and get a late start to the season.
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Post by alienrace on Feb 23, 2024 8:43:47 GMT -5
What is Mitchell's time table? I think I heard he'll miss camp and get a late start to the season. Haven't heard, but that sounds reasonable. Only thing I read was that the tear was really clean and the surgery was not complicated.
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Post by alienrace on Feb 23, 2024 16:02:18 GMT -5
Salary cap just went up 36 mil!
Well, that's significant for the Ravens then. Along with the planned moves to reduce cap, this gives them a lot of room to re-sign some guys that they may not have been able to.
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Post by alienrace on Feb 29, 2024 8:26:11 GMT -5
Don't have a link, but Odell Beckam was re-signed last night to an extension.
Also saw that they are looking at re-signing Gus Edwards. No word on Dobbins or any of the big-name FA rbs.
This being the case, looks like they are taking the "keep the band together" approach.
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Post by ivanbalt on Feb 29, 2024 8:39:35 GMT -5
Don't have a link, but Odell Beckam was re-signed last night to an extension. Also saw that they are looking at re-signing Gus Edwards. No word on Dobbins or any of the big-name FA rbs. This being the case, looks like they are taking the "keep the band together" approach. I'd really like to see Dobbins get another shot.
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Post by alienrace on Feb 29, 2024 8:57:02 GMT -5
I'd really like to see Dobbins get another shot. Same. When healthy he was ridiculously good. Maybe some low-risk contract. I think the biggest changes are coming on the o-line. Not sure about the defense. Definitely going to lose a couple of guys, but they do have some younger ones that have potential. Ojabo comes to mind. Again, health issues have slowed some of these guys down. I don't see how they keep Queen. If this team can be 90% as good as it was in 2023, they've still got a great shot to win it all. They just need to get the Chiefs out of their heads.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Mar 3, 2024 14:01:19 GMT -5
Glad to see Odell back. He was useful. Would rather have Edwards than Dobbins at this point unless Dobbins is willing to accept a team-friendly single year deal to show he can stay healthy and contribute (as he once did - but football is very much, "What have you done for me lately?")
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Post by alienrace on Mar 4, 2024 7:20:42 GMT -5
Odell was not signed it appears, article was wrong it was using info from last year. Probably written by AI 😀
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Post by Evil Yoda on Mar 4, 2024 18:49:30 GMT -5
Odell was not signed it appears, article was wrong it was using info from last year. Probably written by AI 😀 Yeah, they did sign Agholor, and the chant is Odell is going back to New York.
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Post by ivanbalt on Mar 5, 2024 6:50:53 GMT -5
In other NFL news, Denver is set to release Russell Wilson and take an $85 million dead cap hit. So they trade 3 first round picks and other picks to end up with Sean Payton and no QB.
Denver is giving Cleveland a run for its money.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Mar 5, 2024 13:31:59 GMT -5
Madabuike was tagged.
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Post by alienrace on Mar 6, 2024 10:11:08 GMT -5
Yep, meaning, Queen is 100% gone. May have been the case anyway, as Trenton Simpson seems poised to take his spot at a much lower price (for now). Clowney seems likely to re-sign it seems. Van Noy is likely gone. Ojabo would be the hopeful replacement but has to stay healthy. Darby is projected to re-sign, Stone not so much as they are set at safety with Hamilton and Williams. Word is Dobbins looks real good in his workouts. I think one of him or Gus Edwards re-signs, not both. Henry seems to be getting more links to the team. No idea what the offensive line will look like. They seem pretty intent on rebuilding it around Linderbaum. Stanely and Moses seem likely to be gone. Both are far too old and slow in PP. It seems to be overlooked but both of them were getting abused in the AFCC and that was a huge reason they lost. I think Beckam is probably gone, but we'll see. DeCosta seemed pretty intent on keeping him. Duvernay might be too expensive to keep as a 4th or 5th option and returner. They still should be the favorites in the division, and probably the conference. Of course, the Bengals hype-train is in full force, lol.
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Post by alienrace on Mar 8, 2024 13:16:24 GMT -5
Steelers are meeting with Russell Wilson. I honestly think that would be a great fit for both parties. Wilson, even with his decline would be a massive improvement over what they have.
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Post by Rael on Mar 8, 2024 14:38:19 GMT -5
Steelers are meeting with Russell Wilson. I honestly think that would be a great fit for both parties. Wilson, even with his decline would be a massive improvement over what they have. True but are the Steelers one fading star QB away from a title or will this delay the acquisition of a true franchise QB? Will Wilson play for what he is likely to be worth today or does he think he is still (was he ever really?) that great QB from 10 years ago?
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Post by alienrace on Mar 8, 2024 15:04:49 GMT -5
Steelers are meeting with Russell Wilson. I honestly think that would be a great fit for both parties. Wilson, even with his decline would be a massive improvement over what they have. True but are the Steelers one fading star QB away from a title or will this delay the acquisition of a true franchise QB? Will Wilson play for what he is likely to be worth today or does he think he is still (was he ever really?) that great QB from 10 years ago? No, they certainly are not contenders either way next season, but if Wilson were to resurrect his career, and they plug in some holes they might right the ship and keep themselves somewhat relevant.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Mar 8, 2024 16:39:09 GMT -5
Steelers are meeting with Russell Wilson. I honestly think that would be a great fit for both parties. Wilson, even with his decline would be a massive improvement over what they have. It's extremely low risk, too, as the Broncos will be paying most of his salary. I don't know how the cap hit breaks down, though.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Mar 8, 2024 18:25:35 GMT -5
Signed to a 4 year, $98M deal, ~$55 guaranteed.
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Post by alienrace on Mar 11, 2024 10:39:23 GMT -5
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Post by Rael on Mar 11, 2024 12:31:16 GMT -5
I think the Steelers made a mistake by not targeting Fields.
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Post by alienrace on Mar 11, 2024 12:35:37 GMT -5
I think the Steelers made a mistake by not targeting Fields. Fields certainly would have been a better long-term solution; Wilson is just a stopgap. Bears are certain to draft Caleb Williams, and he's almost certain to be a bust. It's what the Bears do. Clearly, they've given up on Kenny Pickett.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Mar 11, 2024 14:00:51 GMT -5
Bears are certain to draft Caleb Williams, and he's almost certain to be a bust. It's what the Bears do. Yes. Yes, it is!
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Post by alienrace on Mar 11, 2024 14:03:04 GMT -5
Cousins to Atlanta, Barkley to Philly. The latter makes Henry more likely to go to the Ravens.
Miami lost one of its best DE's to the Raiders.
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