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Post by pickle20 on Jun 24, 2019 11:09:51 GMT -5
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Post by guido2 on Jun 24, 2019 12:25:09 GMT -5
And people wonder why RCs are not going to church …. duh! Double duh!
Can you spell hypocracy?
My head is spinning....you have pedifiles, you have non-heterosexual sex in the priesthood. And all we RCs get is smoke an mirrors and another letter of intent...on an on and on regarding 'fixing' those things.
But they drop the hammer on a none clerical teacher. Or the school is screwed. I dunno....hypocrisy AND extortion all rolled into one.
Smh....
I nolonger feel the 'guilt' of not attending church anymore. So I have a 'sin'.......I'll discuss it with Jesus and/or God when I see them. I got a feeling they will give me a pass.
I am absolutely disgusted.
PS; I am not a homophobic, you like someone of the same sex...fine. But, the audacity and stupidity of condemning priest for wanting to be married to a women....and gloss over the other stuff.
Old saying 'Physician heal thyself' is more than appropriate.
More and more....
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Post by smokey1 on Jun 24, 2019 12:33:13 GMT -5
I attend a protestant church where at least a third of our congregation are former Catholics.
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Post by guido2 on Jun 24, 2019 12:43:43 GMT -5
I attend a protestant church where at least a third of our congregation are former Catholics. I have attended mass at St. Mary's Episcopal Church, also known as the Church of St. Mary the Virgin, here in Woodlawn. To totally upfront and honest. I felt MORE welcome and got the 'vibe' if you will that they were more concerned about praising God and his healing power of unity than I EVER felt in any Catholic church. Seemed like good people doing good work in the name of God as it was intended.
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Post by smokey1 on Jun 24, 2019 12:57:03 GMT -5
I attend a protestant church where at least a third of our congregation are former Catholics. I have attended mass at St. Mary's Episcopal Church, also known as the Church of St. Mary the Virgin, here in Woodlawn. To totally upfront and honest. I felt MORE welcome and got the 'vibe' if you will that they were more concerned about praising God and his healing power of unity than I EVER felt in any Catholic church. Seemed like good people doing good work in the name of God as it was intended. The Episcopal Church is very similar to the Catholic Church without the connection to the Vatican. It is basically the American version of the Church of England which was the offshoot when Henry VIII kicked the Catholic Church out of England for not letting him divorce one of his wives.
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Post by upstream on Jun 24, 2019 13:08:17 GMT -5
And people wonder why RCs are not going to church …. duh! Double duh! Can you spell hypocracy?My head is spinning....you have pedifiles, you have non-heterosexual sex in the priesthood. And all we RCs get is smoke an mirrors and another letter of intent...on an on and on regarding 'fixing' those things. But they drop the hammer on a none clerical teacher. Or the school is screwed. I dunno....hypocrisy AND extortion all rolled into one. Smh.... I nolonger feel the 'guilt' of not attending church anymore. So I have a 'sin'.......I'll discuss it with Jesus and/or God when I see them. I got a feeling they will give me a pass. I am absolutely disgusted. PS; I am not a homophobic, you like someone of the same sex...fine. But, the audacity and stupidity of condemning priest for wanting to be married to a women....and gloss over the other stuff. Old saying 'Physician heal thyself' is more than appropriate. More and more.... Apparently no.
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Post by littleme on Jun 24, 2019 13:46:15 GMT -5
And people wonder why RCs are not going to church …. duh! Double duh! Can you spell hypocracy?My head is spinning....you have pedifiles, you have non-heterosexual sex in the priesthood. And all we RCs get is smoke an mirrors and another letter of intent...on an on and on regarding 'fixing' those things. But they drop the hammer on a none clerical teacher. Or the school is screwed. I dunno....hypocrisy AND extortion all rolled into one. Smh.... I nolonger feel the 'guilt' of not attending church anymore. So I have a 'sin'.......I'll discuss it with Jesus and/or God when I see them. I got a feeling they will give me a pass. I am absolutely disgusted. PS; I am not a homophobic, you like someone of the same sex...fine. But, the audacity and stupidity of condemning priest for wanting to be married to a women....and gloss over the other stuff. Old saying 'Physician heal thyself' is more than appropriate. More and more.... Apparently no. One of the best posts ever!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 14:47:17 GMT -5
The RCC fosters little doubt about its stand on gay marriage. This should come as no surprise to the teacher.
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Post by guido2 on Jun 24, 2019 15:21:13 GMT -5
Have your fun gang. Yah I goofed...so shoot me. 😄 But I guess I did catch myself. Soooo ooopsss 1 typo...as I said...so shoot me.
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Post by guido2 on Jun 24, 2019 15:27:03 GMT -5
The RCC fosters little doubt about its stand on gay marriage. This should come as no surprise to the teacher. So what is your point with that statement?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 15:34:08 GMT -5
The headline appears to be inaccurate. They did not fire him for being a homosexual, they fired him for contracting a same sex marriage, which is a clear violation of Church teaching. Although I am sad that he lost his job, (I have been out of work and know what it's like), it appears that he had an employment contract which he violated. Did he not understand the contract he entered into? Does anyone in America know that the Catholic Church teaches that same sex relationships are sinful, especially those people who work for the Catholic Church?
I don't honestly know how this is "hypocritical," unless the Catholic Church allowed a Catholic man to marry another Catholic mam and then fired him. Please explain this to me.
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Post by guido2 on Jun 24, 2019 15:40:30 GMT -5
Have your fun gang. Yah I goofed...so shoot me. 😄 But I guess I did catch myself. Soooo ooopsss 1 typo...as I said...so shoot me. More than one. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) But just having some fun with you. That was my hope...bbbbuuuttttt…….. 😏😄
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Post by guido2 on Jun 24, 2019 15:42:36 GMT -5
The headline appears to be inaccurate. They did not fire him for being a homosexual, they fired him for contracting a same sex marriage, which is a clear violation of Church teaching. Although I am sad that he lost his job, (I have been out of work and know what it's like), it appears that he had an employment contract which he violated. Did he not understand the contract he entered into? Does anyone in America know that the Catholic Church teaches that same sex relationships are sinful, especially those people who work for the Catholic Church?
I don't honestly know how this is "hypocritical," unless the Catholic Church allowed a Catholic man to marry another Catholic mam and then fired him. Please explain this to me.
This sort of ties back to my previous post to motr2
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 15:43:45 GMT -5
I attend a protestant church where at least a third of our congregation are former Catholics. I have attended mass at St. Mary's Episcopal Church, also known as the Church of St. Mary the Virgin, here in Woodlawn. To totally upfront and honest. I felt MORE welcome and got the 'vibe' if you will that they were more concerned about praising God and his healing power of unity than I EVER felt in any Catholic church. Seemed like good people doing good work in the name of God as it was intended. Protestant churches do not have "Masses." They have "Eucharist," which is not the same as a Catholic Mass.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 15:44:15 GMT -5
The headline appears to be inaccurate. They did not fire him for being a homosexual, they fired him for contracting a same sex marriage, which is a clear violation of Church teaching. Although I am sad that he lost his job, (I have been out of work and know what it's like), it appears that he had an employment contract which he violated. Did he not understand the contract he entered into? Does anyone in America know that the Catholic Church teaches that same sex relationships are sinful, especially those people who work for the Catholic Church?
I don't honestly know how this is "hypocritical," unless the Catholic Church allowed a Catholic man to marry another Catholic mam and then fired him. Please explain this to me.
This sort of ties back to my previous post to motr2 How so?
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Post by guido2 on Jun 24, 2019 16:03:23 GMT -5
I have attended mass at St. Mary's Episcopal Church, also known as the Church of St. Mary the Virgin, here in Woodlawn. To totally upfront and honest. I felt MORE welcome and got the 'vibe' if you will that they were more concerned about praising God and his healing power of unity than I EVER felt in any Catholic church. Seemed like good people doing good work in the name of God as it was intended. Protestant churches do not have "Masses." They have "Eucharist," which is not the same as a Catholic Mass. Thanks for providing that information. I will file it away for the next time I run into a conversation about the labels people apply to ceremonies that are in honor of God and his son. 🙄
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 16:18:14 GMT -5
Protestant churches do not have "Masses." They have "Eucharist," which is not the same as a Catholic Mass. Thanks for providing that information. I will file it away for the next time I run into a conversation about the labels people apply to ceremonies that are in honor of God and his son. 🙄 Any response to my other query?
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Post by stevez51 on Jun 24, 2019 16:26:49 GMT -5
Another misleading story title. Gets you all worked up and then find out he voided his contract.
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Post by guido2 on Jun 24, 2019 16:44:25 GMT -5
Thanks for providing that information. I will file it away for the next time I run into a conversation about the labels people apply to ceremonies that are in honor of God and his son. 🙄 Any response to my other query? Sorry, you have totally lost me.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jun 24, 2019 16:54:24 GMT -5
You win the Internet. It is yours now, use it wisely. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 17:00:39 GMT -5
Any response to my other query? Sorry, you have totally lost me. I wrote:
The headline appears to be inaccurate. They did not fire him for being a homosexual, they fired him for contracting a same sex marriage, which is a clear violation of Church teaching. Although I am sad that he lost his job, (I have been out of work and know what it's like), it appears that he had an employment contract which he violated. Did he not understand the contract he entered into? Does anyone in America know that the Catholic Church teaches that same sex relationships are sinful, especially those people who work for the Catholic Church? I don't honestly know how this is "hypocritical," unless the Catholic Church allowed a Catholic man to marry another Catholic mam and then fired him. Please explain this to me. Read more: baltimoresunreunited.freeforums.net/thread/4021/save-catholic-identity-indianapolis-cathedral?page=2#ixzz5rnzhkWpq
You wrote in reply:
This sort of ties back to my previous post to motr2
I wrote in response to you:
Sorry, you have totally lost me.
My response to you is,
Any response to my other query?
So my question to you, is, how does this tie into motr2 response? Thanks!
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Post by Evil Yoda on Jun 24, 2019 17:02:02 GMT -5
When I look for moral guidance, I never consider the Catholics. They ceded their right to claim any sort of moral authority when they became an organization that routinely abused women and children, and that routinely covered that up. If they keep their noses clean - and I mean spotless - until around 2050 or so, they can ask again. That would be a period of contrition roughly as long as their known period of abuse. Until then, they ought to keep a really low profile.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 17:03:24 GMT -5
You win the Internet. It is yours now, use it wisely. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) How did he "win"?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 17:04:10 GMT -5
When I look for moral guidance, I never consider the Catholics. They ceded their right to claim any sort of moral authority when they became an organization that routinely abused women and children, and that routinely covered that up. If they keep their noses clean - and I mean spotless - until around 2050 or so, they can ask again. That would be a period of contrition roughly as long as their known period of abuse. Until then, they ought to keep a really low profile. He broke an employment contract.
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Post by guido2 on Jun 24, 2019 17:11:54 GMT -5
Sorry, you have totally lost me. I wrote:
The headline appears to be inaccurate. They did not fire him for being a homosexual, they fired him for contracting a same sex marriage, which is a clear violation of Church teaching. Although I am sad that he lost his job, (I have been out of work and know what it's like), it appears that he had an employment contract which he violated. Did he not understand the contract he entered into? Does anyone in America know that the Catholic Church teaches that same sex relationships are sinful, especially those people who work for the Catholic Church? I don't honestly know how this is "hypocritical," unless the Catholic Church allowed a Catholic man to marry another Catholic mam and then fired him. Please explain this to me. Read more: baltimoresunreunited.freeforums.net/thread/4021/save-catholic-identity-indianapolis-cathedral?page=2#ixzz5rnzhkWpq
You wrote in reply:
This sort of ties back to my previous post to motr2
I wrote in response to you:
Sorry, you have totally lost me.
My response to you is,
Any response to my other query?
So my question to you, is, how does this tie into motr2 response? Thanks!
Simply stated in the previous motr2/Guido2 exchange he said some vague comment as to why those people were fired. I was asking more or less ….was he thinking it was due to a contractual agreement or something else. And the something else is at issue here. That is all. Chill.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 17:16:13 GMT -5
And people wonder why RCs are not going to church …. duh! Double duh! Can you spell hypocracy?Apparently no. you win the internets sir
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Post by Ranger John on Jun 24, 2019 17:17:54 GMT -5
Look, the Catholic Church is RUN by gay men. It manifestly has no issues with homosexuality. He wasn’t fired for being gay. He was fired for breach of contract.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 17:18:19 GMT -5
I wrote:
The headline appears to be inaccurate. They did not fire him for being a homosexual, they fired him for contracting a same sex marriage, which is a clear violation of Church teaching. Although I am sad that he lost his job, (I have been out of work and know what it's like), it appears that he had an employment contract which he violated. Did he not understand the contract he entered into? Does anyone in America know that the Catholic Church teaches that same sex relationships are sinful, especially those people who work for the Catholic Church? I don't honestly know how this is "hypocritical," unless the Catholic Church allowed a Catholic man to marry another Catholic mam and then fired him. Please explain this to me. Read more: baltimoresunreunited.freeforums.net/thread/4021/save-catholic-identity-indianapolis-cathedral?page=2#ixzz5rnzhkWpq
You wrote in reply:
This sort of ties back to my previous post to motr2
I wrote in response to you:
Sorry, you have totally lost me.
My response to you is,
Any response to my other query?
So my question to you, is, how does this tie into motr2 response? Thanks!
Simply stated in the previous motr2/Guido2 exchange he said some vague comment as to why those people were fired. I was asking more or less ….was he thinking it was due to a contractual agreement or something else. And the something else is at issue here. That is all. Chill. He broke a Catholic employment contract, working for the Catholic church. What else is there to say? The CCC is quite clear on this.
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Post by guido2 on Jun 24, 2019 17:27:18 GMT -5
Simply stated in the previous motr2/Guido2 exchange he said some vague comment as to why those people were fired. I was asking more or less ….was he thinking it was due to a contractual agreement or something else. And the something else is at issue here. That is all. Chill. He broke a Catholic employment contract, working for the Catholic church. What else is there to say? The CCC is quite clear on this. smh...yeah fine....I explained my connection....you are spinning off somewhere in response to me.... Lets leave this at my explaination earlier ….and carry on with the others at the moment. ☮
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Post by pickle20 on Jun 24, 2019 18:18:26 GMT -5
Oh so NOW contracts and agreements are never meant to be broken.
Huh...
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