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Post by alienrace on Nov 21, 2022 8:20:02 GMT -5
Steelers did Ravens no favors. Looks like Tomlin is all but guaranteed his first losing season. Pickett is not an NFL caliber QB. His throws are strange. Like he has a lot of arm motion and the ball doesn't really move fast for that amount of motion. He doesn't have any zip at all. The Bengals didn't look particularly good either in winning. Chucking the ball up for grabs to Tyler Boyd isn't a long term offensive strategy that will have consistent success.
What the Cowboys did to the Vikings should put everyone on notice. They are the best NFC team. The Eagles are looking a lot more like the 2020 Steelers with every passing game.
Chiefs/Chargers game was super enjoyable! Kinda knew Mahomes would pull that out. I think the Chiefs have just enough defense to make a deep run.
The Commies are still playing hard, and in the mix. The Giants might be coming back to earth, losing to the Lions at home. That's a very Giants thing to do.
Jets lost a heartbreaker, and as much as I dislike the Patriots, that was pretty wild to watch the ending of that.
Browns are done. Bills righted their ship somewhat.
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Post by pickle20 on Nov 21, 2022 9:39:19 GMT -5
I'm not ready to crown the Cowboys yet. They just lost to GB.
the next Eagles/Cowboys game will be interesting.
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Post by alienrace on Nov 21, 2022 10:26:56 GMT -5
I'm not ready to crown the Cowboys yet. They just lost to GB. the next Eagles/Cowboys game will be interesting. The definitely blew the GB game - but - I still think they are the best NFC team - which isn't saying a lot actually, as I don't feel there are any teams in the NFC that are in the class of the top AFC teams.
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Post by alienrace on Nov 23, 2022 12:15:43 GMT -5
Jet's bench Wilson - www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35091901/sources-jets-players-told-qb-zach-wilson-start-sundayIt's more than just a benching, he's inactive. White gets the start with Flacco as the backup. As someone said on NFL Network last night, fantasy owners might want to pick Flacco up now, because Mike White isn't going to hold onto that position long. And so it goes on for the Jets and the QB's they draft. Since Joe Namath, they've hit on exactly one - Chad Pennington. Only the Cleveland Mistakes By The Lakes have rivaled the ineptness at drafting QB's.
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Post by pickle20 on Nov 23, 2022 12:16:31 GMT -5
Flacco gives them the best chance to win IMO and the Jets are 6-4. White is no better than Wilson. Not sure what Salah is doing here. Maybe see what White can do if you're 4-6 but this is the best record the Jets have had this late into the season in a long time.
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Post by ivanbalt on Nov 23, 2022 13:01:44 GMT -5
Jet's bench Wilson - www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35091901/sources-jets-players-told-qb-zach-wilson-start-sundayIt's more than just a benching, he's inactive. White gets the start with Flacco as the backup. As someone said on NFL Network last night, fantasy owners might want to pick Flacco up now, because Mike White isn't going to hold onto that position long. And so it goes on for the Jets and the QB's they draft. Since Joe Namath, they've hit on exactly one - Chad Pennington. Only the Cleveland Mistakes By The Lakes have rivaled the ineptness at drafting QB's. No surprise he's inactive. He's been terrible, Sunday's second half was as abysmal as it gets (2 yds) and then he took no ownership in the post-game meeting with the press.
Sanchize had some moments as Jets QB, but they pretty much torpedoed his chances of growth when they brought in Tebow for absolutely no reason.
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Post by alienrace on Nov 23, 2022 13:18:57 GMT -5
Sanchize had some moments as Jets QB Most notably, "The Butt Fumble" I remember being at Sanchez's first preseason game in 2009 - it was against the Ravens. My buddy and I both said "Man, he's overmatched at this level". I give him credit though - he did have some moments and wound up in back-to-back AFCC games.
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Post by ivanbalt on Nov 23, 2022 13:23:11 GMT -5
Sanchize had some moments as Jets QB Most notably, "The Butt Fumble" I remember being at Sanchez's first preseason game in 2009 - it was against the Ravens. My buddy and I both said "Man, he's overmatched at this level". I give him credit though - he did have some moments and wound up in back-to-back AFCC games. His jersey number might also still be tatooed on Rex Ryan.
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Post by Rael on Nov 23, 2022 17:22:33 GMT -5
Steelers did Ravens no favors. Looks like Tomlin is all but guaranteed his first losing season. Pickett is not an NFL caliber QB. His throws are strange. Like he has a lot of arm motion and the ball doesn't really move fast for that amount of motion. Like my daughter pitching in softball. Lots of fast windup and lots of arms and legs everywhere and the ball come out s-l-o-w. The coach, who is apparently great at the backhanded compliment game, said she had a great natural change-up.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 24, 2022 15:31:39 GMT -5
The Ravens have failed hard at drafting wide receivers, but on balance I'll take that over failed hard at drafting quarterbacks.
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Post by alienrace on Nov 25, 2022 9:22:04 GMT -5
The Ravens have failed hard at drafting wide receivers, but on balance I'll take that over failed hard at drafting quarterbacks. They certainly wiffed on a few of the first round picks like Brashad Perriman, Mark Clayton, and the one who's name escapes me from the 2000 draft. Though, it should be noted that Perriman is still in the league, and Clayton was somewhat serviceable for a time. I think Torrey Smith was a good pick and had some good years, and definitely was key in a SB run. Hollywood Brown played pretty well, but his brain apparently isn't right much like his cousin. Some of their later round picks have panned out and been fairly productive/useful. They have crushed it on TE's though. Long list of really good TE's, in fact it seems they've had to let quality ones go due to a glut of good ones. (thinking Ed Dickson, Hayden Hurst, and I'm thinking one of this year's will have to go too). But Heap, Pitta, Andrews, Boyle, Likely, these guys have been home runs at what they do. Maybe Boyle isn't quite a home run, but he's still pretty good as a blocking TE. They've also been very good at drafting fullbacks, RB's, and o-line. Actually aside from WR's, it seems like there is a lot of ex-ravens still floating around the league.
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Post by ivanbalt on Nov 25, 2022 10:43:55 GMT -5
The Ravens have failed hard at drafting wide receivers, but on balance I'll take that over failed hard at drafting quarterbacks. They certainly wiffed on a few of the first round picks like Brashad Perriman, Mark Clayton, and the one who's name escapes me from the 2000 draft. Though, it should be noted that Perriman is still in the league, and Clayton was somewhat serviceable for a time. I think Torrey Smith was a good pick and had some good years, and definitely was key in a SB run. Hollywood Brown played pretty well, but his brain apparently isn't right much like his cousin. Some of their later round picks have panned out and been fairly productive/useful. They have crushed it on TE's though. Long list of really good TE's, in fact it seems they've had to let quality ones go due to a glut of good ones. (thinking Ed Dickson, Hayden Hurst, and I'm thinking one of this year's will have to go too). But Heap, Pitta, Andrews, Boyle, Likely, these guys have been home runs at what they do. Maybe Boyle isn't quite a home run, but he's still pretty good as a blocking TE. They've also been very good at drafting fullbacks, RB's, and o-line. Actually aside from WR's, it seems like there is a lot of ex-ravens still floating around the league. Travis Taylor. The man who could make the occasional spectacular catch, but put the ball on his hands or chest and he dropped it.
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Post by Rael on Nov 25, 2022 14:12:11 GMT -5
The Ravens have failed hard at drafting wide receivers, but on balance I'll take that over failed hard at drafting quarterbacks. They certainly wiffed on a few of the first round picks like Brashad Perriman, Mark Clayton, and the one who's name escapes me from the 2000 draft. Though, it should be noted that Perriman is still in the league, and Clayton was somewhat serviceable for a time. I think Torrey Smith was a good pick and had some good years, and definitely was key in a SB run. Hollywood Brown played pretty well, but his brain apparently isn't right much like his cousin. Some of their later round picks have panned out and been fairly productive/useful. They have crushed it on TE's though. Long list of really good TE's, in fact it seems they've had to let quality ones go due to a glut of good ones. (thinking Ed Dickson, Hayden Hurst, and I'm thinking one of this year's will have to go too). But Heap, Pitta, Andrews, Boyle, Likely, these guys have been home runs at what they do. Maybe Boyle isn't quite a home run, but he's still pretty good as a blocking TE. They've also been very good at drafting fullbacks, RB's, and o-line. Actually aside from WR's, it seems like there is a lot of ex-ravens still floating around the league. Rumor was Hurst was too much of a partier when he was here.
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Post by alienrace on Nov 25, 2022 15:10:29 GMT -5
Rumor was Hurst was too much of a partier when he was here. That might explain why they let him go then. I was kind of puzzled when they did. He went to Atlanta first right? Kinda bouncing around?
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 25, 2022 17:11:11 GMT -5
Rumor was Hurst was too much of a partier when he was here. I hadn't heard that. I assumed it was because he and Lamar did not get along for some reason. Whatever was true, he did not last. But they have done a spectacular job selecting tight ends if they can afford to trade a first round talent and it does not affect them much. I liked Torrey when he was here but I classify him as a top receiver. A solid second, sure. Perriman just never worked out here, Brown has a ten cent head, Travis Taylor couldn't catch reliably, Bateman looks like the kind of bust that comes from can't stay healthy (jury's still out on him). The list is sadly extensive.
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Post by pickle20 on Nov 26, 2022 8:11:20 GMT -5
Hurst is in Cincy now.
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Post by alienrace on Dec 5, 2022 8:54:10 GMT -5
Watson returns, looked pretty awful. The Browns won, despite him.
Are the Steelers suddenly resurgent? Probably not, but one thing I can say about the Steelers, is many times they look over the abyss, and somehow find their way back. I don't think the Ravens can overlook them next week - that's definitely no gimme.
Bengals are right now the best team in the AFC. There, I said it.
Chargers and Patriots are both on the edge of being knocked out of the playoffs. Though a lot of these teams ahead of them are playing each other down the stretch, so a lot could happen there.
Dallas might be the best NFC team, though the Eagles looked damn impressive yesterday and will likely have HFA.
Vikings to me are kinda iffy.
No team in the NFCS is even good. Or close to good.
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Post by Rael on Dec 5, 2022 14:35:50 GMT -5
Watson returns, looked pretty awful. The Browns won, despite him. Are the Steelers suddenly resurgent? Probably not, but one thing I can say about the Steelers, is many times they look over the abyss, and somehow find their way back. I don't think the Ravens can overlook them next week - that's definitely no gimme. Bengals are right now the best team in the AFC. There, I said it. Chargers and Patriots are both on the edge of being knocked out of the playoffs. Though a lot of these teams ahead of them are playing each other down the stretch, so a lot could happen there. Dallas might be the best NFC team, though the Eagles looked damn impressive yesterday and will likely have HFA. Vikings to me are kinda iffy. No team in the NFCS is even good. Or close to good. How Brownsian would it be if they paid all that money, not to mention social currency, to bring in Watson and he ends up the second coming of Tim Couch?
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Post by ivanbalt on Dec 5, 2022 14:53:01 GMT -5
Watson returns, looked pretty awful. The Browns won, despite him. Are the Steelers suddenly resurgent? Probably not, but one thing I can say about the Steelers, is many times they look over the abyss, and somehow find their way back. I don't think the Ravens can overlook them next week - that's definitely no gimme. Bengals are right now the best team in the AFC. There, I said it. Chargers and Patriots are both on the edge of being knocked out of the playoffs. Though a lot of these teams ahead of them are playing each other down the stretch, so a lot could happen there. Dallas might be the best NFC team, though the Eagles looked damn impressive yesterday and will likely have HFA. Vikings to me are kinda iffy. No team in the NFCS is even good. Or close to good. How Brownsian would it be if they paid all that money, not to mention social currency, to bring in Watson and he ends up the second coming of Tim Couch? Well they have two more drafts without a #1 and 4 more years of a $55 mil cap hit so they're on their way.
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Post by Rael on Dec 5, 2022 14:59:03 GMT -5
How Brownsian would it be if they paid all that money, not to mention social currency, to bring in Watson and he ends up the second coming of Tim Couch? Well they have two more drafts without a #1 and 4 more years of a $55 mil cap hit so they're on their way. They would certainly deserve it. Giving that foul creature a quarter billion dollars is about the most depraved act I could think of in sports.
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Post by alienrace on Dec 5, 2022 14:59:19 GMT -5
At this point the Browns are the front runners for the Harvey Weinstein Award of Excellence in Women's Rights with their recent roster moves. What's next luring Ray Rice out of retirement?
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Post by alienrace on Dec 6, 2022 14:38:11 GMT -5
Just a moment here to congratulate Tom Brady (hard to believe I'm saying it). He really looked done to most everyone this year, and though his offensive line play has a lot to do with it, there was more to it than that. His decision making process is slowing down - inevitable with age as your memory banks are simply fuller and slower to access. His body isn't quite what it was (though admittedly, he does appear to be in great shape and still can fling it). Last night, with about 6 minutes to go in the game, I told my wife "It's over for him". He looked his age at long last. We were both kinda sad. An era of football was coming to an end. No more Manning, Favre, Brady, Brees, Roethlisberger. Icons of the sport that defined and spanned multiple generations. I still remember the Tuck Game. I was still living in Baltimore and had recently gotten engaged to my first wife. It was a lifetime ago in many ways. As much as I loved to hate Tom Brady and Big Ben, football without them seems rather empty. We were sad.
Then Brady got that all-too familiar look in his eye. You know, the laser point focus that could burn the skin off of a dragon. He put them on his back and drove them down to score. Then they got the ball back, with 2 minutes and some change and a timeout. A decade ago, or even less, you knew that spelled doom for the other team. Brady marched them down, got them inside the 10. The offensive line screwed up again with a horrible holding penalty that erased a would-be winning TD pass. I guess that would be it then. Nope. Brady throws a strike to get them closer. Then another to take the lead for good. The look on Andy Dalton's face said it all. The GOAT's demise may not be at hand just yet.
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Post by ivanbalt on Dec 6, 2022 14:46:14 GMT -5
I was hoping Brady would finally miss the playoffs and retire. But the good old NFC South has bailed him out (like the AFC East for 20 years) and 7 wins is likely enough for the division.
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Post by pickle20 on Dec 6, 2022 16:22:38 GMT -5
I was actually hoping he pulled it off for once. Not because I root for him, or the Saints, I just wanted to see it.
Plus my cousin is a Dallas fan and it would be funny to watch them go to TB in the Wild Card round and lose.
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Post by ivanbalt on Dec 9, 2022 9:06:20 GMT -5
Raiders blew a 13 point lead to Baker Mayfield (just signed two days prior) and the Rams who looked horrible the entire night.
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Post by pickle20 on Dec 9, 2022 9:32:04 GMT -5
Have to wonder if McDaniel is the HC next year.
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Post by ivanbalt on Dec 9, 2022 9:42:59 GMT -5
Have to wonder if McDaniel is the HC next year. The Raiders started horribly and then over the past few weeks looked like they were turning it around so maybe McDaniels would be safe. But then last night occurred so who knows. But he's on a 4-year deal and the Raiders just settled with Gruden last year for the remainder of his contract so they might not want to pay another coach to not coach.
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Post by pickle20 on Dec 9, 2022 9:51:14 GMT -5
Have to wonder if McDaniel is the HC next year. The Raiders started horribly and then over the past few weeks looked like they were turning it around so maybe McDaniels would be safe. But then last night occurred so who knows. But he's on a 4-year deal and the Raiders just settled with Gruden last year for the remainder of his contract so they might not want to pay another coach to not coach. What a mess that organization is.
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Post by alienrace on Dec 9, 2022 9:51:59 GMT -5
That game was mind blowing. Lotta props to Mayfield for pulling that entire scenario off.
Good for the Ravens - this pretty much eliminates the Raiders who were looking more likely to challenge for a WC spot than NE or SD.
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Post by alienrace on Dec 12, 2022 8:21:38 GMT -5
Looking around the NFL, it was a pretty interesting weekend.
The Chargers stayed alive for a WC with a huge win against Miami, and the Dolphins suddenly find themselves in potential trouble given they are probably going to lose @buffalo next week. They are probably safe though, thanks to the Jets losing to Buffalo in what could be dubbed the Rocky Vs Apollo Creed I game. Mike White took the beating of a lifetime. Gutty - but you may question his sanity now.
Tom Brady came back to reality. The Niners annihilated the Bucs. They might be really good even without Jimmy G. Defense is scary.
Cowboys whom I was riding high on nearly lost to the Texans?? Vikings got put on notice by the Lions, and the rest of the league might be wondering about the Lions as well.
Browns and Steelers are both done. Haha. Good riddance scumbags. I predict pain for both franchises in the coming years.
Chiefs nearly lost to the Broncos thanks to Mahomes throwing it to them. They are obviously beatable as the Bengals proved.
Looking more and more like the AFCN comes down to the game between the Ravens and Bengals. Ravens can get a huge leg up by winning at Cleveland saturday. With home games against the Falcons and Steelers as likely wins, they'd put themselves in prime position to make that last game meaningless if they can win the next 3.
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