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Post by WKDWZD on Jul 6, 2023 6:33:01 GMT -5
American beer drinkers are damn fickle, eh. My favourite brewery could have taken a dump in the old Queen's handbag, and I'd still be drinking their ale. 
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Post by cowboyz on Jul 6, 2023 6:34:29 GMT -5
I don't think so workerbee. First, a high profile MAGA wouldn't do that right now. That's a political death sentence. Second, all they want is an apology from BL for their wokeness, not the weak statements that they have shared. Third, over the July 4th holiday BL had a military heavy, rah, rah USA commercial and it still wasn't well received. I did see another where they went back to being funny. Yup... that didn't help either. Their marketing department is working OT and it's just not helping. People want an apology and no way is BL or AB going to give it to them.
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Post by pickle20 on Jul 6, 2023 6:39:06 GMT -5
Nor should they apologize. They did nothing wrong.
The people upset about this are bigots who believe trans people shouldn’t be acknowledged.
They can choose to drink whatever beer they want and it’s a free country but let’s call this what it is.
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Post by alienrace on Jul 6, 2023 7:03:11 GMT -5
believe trans people shouldn’t be acknowledged. Yeah, I don't think that's really it. |
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Post by mrsmlh on Jul 6, 2023 7:28:24 GMT -5
believe trans people shouldn’t be acknowledged. Yeah, I don't think that's really it. You seem to have forgotten to post the entire sentence but I guess you think that's funny.
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Post by msmaggie on Jul 6, 2023 7:29:46 GMT -5
believe trans people shouldn’t be acknowledged. Yeah, I don't think that's really it. That's precisely it. |
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Post by alienrace on Jul 6, 2023 7:45:55 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't think that's really it. That's precisely it. No, unless you narrow down the scope of what acknowledging encompasses. Most people acknowledge the existence of trans people. It's the normalization, mainstreaming of it they object to. People are objecting to being told how they are supposed to feel about that. Calling it a "phobia" is beyond silly too.
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Post by msmaggie on Jul 6, 2023 8:14:53 GMT -5
No, unless you narrow down the scope of what acknowledging encompasses. Most people acknowledge the existence of trans people. It's the normalization, mainstreaming of it they object to. People are objecting to being told how they are supposed to feel about that. Calling it a "phobia" is beyond silly too. AB produced ONE can with the image of Ms D on it, sent it to her and paid for placement of her posing on her Twitter account w said can. That was it. How is anyone being "told" how to feel about anything. Ms D is an "influencer" in the queer sphere. Who do you suppose follows her on Twitter? Had you ever heard of her before? The hate mongers jumped on this and made it a thing. You acknowledge the existence of trans people--damn big of you. But you don't want them "normalized". What does that mean? They should hide? How you "feel" about it is up to you. Does it hurt? Poor thing. Your pain must be debilitating. How we as a society treat these people is the issue. Nobody gives a **** how you or I "feel" about the issue. |
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Post by Jimmy Jazz on Jul 6, 2023 8:18:49 GMT -5
How many other brands does InBev own? I dunno but a lot. I’m sure the company is well represented at venues like Citi Field by other brands and will be fine. |
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Post by alienrace on Jul 6, 2023 8:20:43 GMT -5
No, unless you narrow down the scope of what acknowledging encompasses. Most people acknowledge the existence of trans people. It's the normalization, mainstreaming of it they object to. People are objecting to being told how they are supposed to feel about that. Calling it a "phobia" is beyond silly too. AB produced ONE can with the image of Ms D on it, sent it to her and paid for placement of her posing on her Twitter account w said can. That was it. How is anyone being "told" how to feel about anything. Ms D is an "influencer" in the queer sphere. Who do you suppose follows her on Twitter? Had you ever heard of her before? The hate mongers jumped on this and made it a thing. You acknowledge the existence of trans people--damn big of you. But you don't want them "normalized". What does that mean? They should hide? How you "feel" about it is up to you. Does it hurt? Poor thing. Your pain must be debilitating. How we as a society treat these people is the issue. Nobody gives a **** how you or I "feel" about the issue. Anyone else see the problem here? (aside from Maggie having a meltdown)
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Post by msmaggie on Jul 6, 2023 8:28:50 GMT -5
AB produced ONE can with the image of Ms D on it, sent it to her and paid for placement of her posing on her Twitter account w said can. That was it. How is anyone being "told" how to feel about anything. Ms D is an "influencer" in the queer sphere. Who do you suppose follows her on Twitter? Had you ever heard of her before? The hate mongers jumped on this and made it a thing. You acknowledge the existence of trans people--damn big of you. But you don't want them "normalized". What does that mean? They should hide? How you "feel" about it is up to you. Does it hurt? Poor thing. Your pain must be debilitating. How we as a society treat these people is the issue. Nobody gives a **** how you or I "feel" about the issue. Anyone else see the problem here? (aside from Maggie having a meltdown) Oh I see. So you aren't transphobic. You just feel compelled to defend people who are. Right. |
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Post by alienrace on Jul 6, 2023 8:31:52 GMT -5
So you aren't transphobic. You just feel compelled to defend people who are. Right. 1) I'm not afraid of trans people, therefore, I'm not trans "phobic". 2) I didn't defend anyone. |
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Post by msmaggie on Jul 6, 2023 8:35:55 GMT -5
So you aren't transphobic. You just feel compelled to defend people who are. Right. 1) I'm not afraid of trans people, therefore, I'm not trans "phobic". 2) I didn't defend anyone. If you say so, I believe you. But explaining that people object to "normalizing" trans people? As if that deems them NOT transphobic? Yikes. |
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Post by mrsmlh on Jul 6, 2023 9:13:07 GMT -5
1) I'm not afraid of trans people, therefore, I'm not trans "phobic". 2) I didn't defend anyone. If you say so, I believe you. But explaining that people object to "normalizing" trans people? As if that deems them NOT transphobic? Yikes. Actually I think he probably is phobic using definition #2 of phobia (an aversion toward, dislike of, or disrespect for a thing, idea, person or group"
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Post by cowboyz on Jul 6, 2023 9:17:52 GMT -5
There is nothing normal about Dylan Mulvaney.
Clearly, he has some mental issues. He needs help, not encouragement.
He is way over the top type of trans that makes people uncomfortable. He dresses and acts like a little girl... a little girl, a baby doll. Ughhhh. That makes me uncomfortable. He tries to sound like a little girl and it's off putting. All he is doing is playing dress up and he really thinks he's a girl.... he is not! Putting on make up and women's clothes does not make him a woman. I actually believe he is hurting the trans community. I feel bad for the trans people just trying to live their lives quietly... like most of us.
Some of his videos are simply cringy and uncomfortable for people.
People can accept trans, they don't have to embrace it or support it.
These Bud Light drinkers are simply saying enough is enough and it's working.
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Post by msmaggie on Jul 6, 2023 9:25:48 GMT -5
There is nothing normal about Dylan Mulvaney. Clearly, he has some mental issues. He needs help, not encouragement. He is way over the top type of trans that makes people uncomfortable. He dresses and acts like a little girl... a little girl, a baby doll. Ughhhh. That makes me uncomfortable. He tries to sound like a little girl and it's off putting. All he is doing is playing dress up and he really thinks he's a girl.... he is not! Putting on make up and women's clothes does not make him a woman. I actually believe he is hurting the trans community. I feel bad for the trans people just trying to live their lives quietly... like most of us. Some of his videos are simply cringy and uncomfortable for people. People can accept trans, they don't have to embrace it or support it. These Bud Light drinkers are simply saying enough is enough and it's working. Mulvaney has completed gender transition. Why do you refer to her as "he"? Is this "accepting trans"? Most trans people live quiet lives. Just like straight people. Do straight people who live unquiet lives bother you? Like Kid Rock? |
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Post by cowboyz on Jul 6, 2023 9:49:14 GMT -5
There is nothing normal about Dylan Mulvaney. Clearly, he has some mental issues. He needs help, not encouragement. He is way over the top type of trans that makes people uncomfortable. He dresses and acts like a little girl... a little girl, a baby doll. Ughhhh. That makes me uncomfortable. He tries to sound like a little girl and it's off putting. All he is doing is playing dress up and he really thinks he's a girl.... he is not! Putting on make up and women's clothes does not make him a woman. I actually believe he is hurting the trans community. I feel bad for the trans people just trying to live their lives quietly... like most of us. Some of his videos are simply cringy and uncomfortable for people. People can accept trans, they don't have to embrace it or support it. These Bud Light drinkers are simply saying enough is enough and it's working. Mulvaney has completed gender transition. Why do you refer to her as "he"? Is this "accepting trans"? Most trans people live quiet lives. Just like straight people. Do straight people who live unquiet lives bother you? Like Kid Rock? Completed gender transition by dressing like a girl and acting like a little girl? Just announcing it does not make you a woman. Sorry, I don't agree. Okay, he has feminine facial surgery so he could stop shaving his face. Ya know... cuz men have facial hair. He is taking on girlhood not womanhood, that is really strange. A man acting like a little girl is creepy as s%&*. He has done videos showing how he had to learn how to use feminine products. Cmon.... gross! WHAT? It depends on what you mean by unquiet? What is Kid Rock doing that is unquiet? You don't hear from from him anymore until he decides to shoot up some cans. That did not bother me the way a creepy man dressing, acting and sounding like a little girl bothers me.
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Post by alienrace on Jul 6, 2023 10:05:28 GMT -5
ulvaney has completed gender transition. Why do you refer to her as "he"? Is this "accepting trans"? Completed? Does Dylan still have frank and beans? Perhaps if Mulvaney wasn't using a man's name people would be more apt to call him a "she"? |
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Post by alienrace on Jul 6, 2023 10:07:57 GMT -5
That did not bother me the way a creepy man dressing, acting and sounding like a little girl bothers me. It doesn't bother me; people are free to do as they please in that regard. Just don't ask me to pretend that the guy isn't mentally ill. Otherwise, I really don't care if people want to celebrate Pride, and I'm not one to boycott things based on silly advertising campaigns. |
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Post by msmaggie on Jul 6, 2023 10:08:11 GMT -5
Mulvaney has completed gender transition. Why do you refer to her as "he"? Is this "accepting trans"? Most trans people live quiet lives. Just like straight people. Do straight people who live unquiet lives bother you? Like Kid Rock? Completed gender transition by dressing like a girl and acting like a little girl? Just announcing it does not make you a woman. Sorry, I don't agree. Okay, he has feminine facial surgery so he could stop shaving his face. Ya know... cuz men have facial hair. He is taking on girlhood not womanhood, that is really strange. A man acting like a little girl is creepy as s%&*. He has done videos showing how he had to learn how to use feminine products. Cmon.... gross! WHAT? It depends on what you mean by unquiet? What is Kid Rock doing that is unquiet? You don't hear from from him anymore until he decides to shoot up some cans. That did not bother me the way a creepy man dressing, acting and sounding like a little girl bothers me. You certainly seem to have had a lot of exposure to her social media posts. Why do you watch things that make you uncomfortable? |
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Post by msmaggie on Jul 6, 2023 10:11:58 GMT -5
ulvaney has completed gender transition. Why do you refer to her as "he"? Is this "accepting trans"? Completed? Does Dylan still have frank and beans? Perhaps if Mulvaney wasn't using a man's name people would be more apt to call him a "she"? Sigh. Gender identity: it's not about what's between your legs, It's about what's between your ears. And Dylan is an increasingly popular girl's name. |
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Post by alienrace on Jul 6, 2023 10:15:19 GMT -5
Sigh. Gender identity: it's not about what's between your legs, It's about what's between your ears. Yeah, well "identity" still doesn't make you a different gender. People identify as cats too. Doesn't make them a cat. 
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Post by cowboyz on Jul 6, 2023 10:19:17 GMT -5
That did not bother me the way a creepy man dressing, acting and sounding like a little girl bothers me. It doesn't bother me; people are free to do as they please in that regard. Just don't ask me to pretend that the guy isn't mentally ill. Otherwise, I really don't care if people want to celebrate Pride, and I'm not one to boycott things based on silly advertising campaigns. Agreed... we aren't banning Bud Light either. My husband still drinks it. That's the confusing part to me.... for years we have been preached to about mental illness and people needing help. This guy is clearly mentally ill and he is being praised and lifted. Supporting and encouraging him is only making him delusional. I truly believe that he truly believes he is a little girl. It's sad because he's not. If a grown man embracing girlhood isn't mentally ill, someone give me a new definition.
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Post by msmaggie on Jul 6, 2023 10:19:32 GMT -5
Sigh. Gender identity: it's not about what's between your legs, It's about what's between your ears. Yeah, well "identity" still doesn't make you a different gender. People identify as cats too. Doesn't make them a cat. So trans people are the same as people who think they're cats? Good thing you're not transphobic. |
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Post by cowboyz on Jul 6, 2023 10:21:30 GMT -5
Completed gender transition by dressing like a girl and acting like a little girl? Just announcing it does not make you a woman. Sorry, I don't agree. Okay, he has feminine facial surgery so he could stop shaving his face. Ya know... cuz men have facial hair. He is taking on girlhood not womanhood, that is really strange. A man acting like a little girl is creepy as s%&*. He has done videos showing how he had to learn how to use feminine products. Cmon.... gross! WHAT? It depends on what you mean by unquiet? What is Kid Rock doing that is unquiet? You don't hear from from him anymore until he decides to shoot up some cans. That did not bother me the way a creepy man dressing, acting and sounding like a little girl bothers me. You certainly seem to have had a lot of exposure to her social media posts. Why do you watch things that make you uncomfortable? That's all you have? Turning it to me for knowing what I'm talking about. He pops up everywhere, sometimes I watch, sometimes I don't. I guess you don't know much about this creepy little man posing as a little girl.
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Post by cowboyz on Jul 6, 2023 10:23:04 GMT -5
Completed? Does Dylan still have frank and beans? Perhaps if Mulvaney wasn't using a man's name people would be more apt to call him a "she"? Sigh. Gender identity: it's not about what's between your legs, It's about what's between your ears. And Dylan is an increasingly popular girl's name. That's the real problem.... what is between his ears.
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Post by cowboyz on Jul 6, 2023 10:24:54 GMT -5
Yeah, well "identity" still doesn't make you a different gender. People identify as cats too. Doesn't make them a cat. So trans people are the same as people who think they're cats? Good thing you're not transphobic. What is wrong with someone that thinks they are a cat?
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Post by msmaggie on Jul 6, 2023 10:25:09 GMT -5
You certainly seem to have had a lot of exposure to her social media posts. Why do you watch things that make you uncomfortable? That's all you have? Turning it to me for knowing what I'm talking about. He pops up everywhere, sometimes I watch, sometimes I don't. I guess you don't know much about this creepy little man posing as a little girl. Never heard of her prior to the "outrage" over Bud L. Certainly doesn't pop up everywhere for me. Guess we have different social media profiles. I looked into it once it started getting mainstream media attention. |
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Post by msmaggie on Jul 6, 2023 10:33:35 GMT -5
So trans people are the same as people who think they're cats? Good thing you're not transphobic. What is wrong with someone that thinks they are a cat? Clinical lycanthrophy is a rare psychological disorder, recognized as mental illness by the AMA. |
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Post by cowboyz on Jul 6, 2023 10:35:20 GMT -5
That's all you have? Turning it to me for knowing what I'm talking about. He pops up everywhere, sometimes I watch, sometimes I don't. I guess you don't know much about this creepy little man posing as a little girl. Never heard of her prior to the "outrage" over Bud L. Certainly doesn't pop up everywhere for me. Guess we have different social media profiles. I looked into it once it started getting mainstream media attention. I'd def seen him before but I too looked more into him after the Bud Light debacle started. So, no need to dismiss everything I said and turn it into wondering why I know these things. That was meant to be a dig and pretty unfair. At least I know enough to know he is clearly sick.
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