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Post by Ranger John on Apr 6, 2023 12:10:30 GMT -5
Anyone who shoots Bud Light is doing us all a favor. *nods* Legit gun control.
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Post by alienrace on Apr 6, 2023 12:12:32 GMT -5
Don't acknowledge their existence, or we will cancel you. I don't think it's about acknowledging their existence, it's more about accepting it as "normal". |
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Post by guido2 on Apr 6, 2023 12:15:56 GMT -5
So now Nike Women has signed Dylan to promote their new sports bra on social media. Come on, really ......... You strike me as a Skechers guy. Hey watch it. I own 4 pairs. 
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Post by guido2 on Apr 6, 2023 12:17:23 GMT -5
Hillbilly snowflake Travis Tritt dropping AB products. If he would stop performing, it would be a double win.
Travis Tritt...now there's a name I haven't heard in a while. People are free to vote with their feet and wallets as much as they want. All this does is illustrate the hate and bigotry directed toward the trans community by a certain segment of the US population. Don't acknowledge their existence, or we will cancel you. Travis Tritt...now there's a name I never heard of before. 
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Post by guido2 on Apr 6, 2023 12:20:35 GMT -5
Don't acknowledge their existence, or we will cancel you. I don't think it's about acknowledging their existence, it's more about accepting it as "normal". And if they have their image of normal firmly entrenched in their heads. Then why all the fuss? I mean, I have never seen a 'normal' glance at a trans. or gay couple etc, and suddenly turn into a pillar of salt or spontaneously combust.
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Post by mrsmlh on Apr 6, 2023 12:32:14 GMT -5
I wonder how many people have actually met a trans individual and really knew that they were meeting a trans person.
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Post by pickle20 on Apr 6, 2023 12:49:27 GMT -5
Don't acknowledge their existence, or we will cancel you. I don't think it's about acknowledging their existence, it's more about accepting it as "normal". So...what is the alternative? Keep ostracizing them, calling them mentally ill, legislating away their freedom and rights, and pretend they don't exist? "Normal" being thrown around a lot lately. What is normal? Are gay people normal? What about people who go to Brony-Con? What about interracial marriages?
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Post by alienrace on Apr 6, 2023 13:09:54 GMT -5
legislating away their freedom and rights What rights have been legislated away? Freedom to use the bathroom of their choice? Interesting...I don't have that freedom. Pretending to be something you're not and expecting everyone else to go along with that is probably not normal, and a dysphoric mental illness. Now I'm fine with people doing that, and living their lives as they see fit - my only issue is don't call me a bigot because my personal belief is that it's mental illness, and don't get upset at me if I don't want to go along with the pretending. |
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Post by pickle20 on Apr 6, 2023 13:15:06 GMT -5
legislating away their freedom and rights What rights have been legislated away? Freedom to use the bathroom of their choice? Interesting...I don't have that freedom. Pretending to be something you're not and expecting everyone else to go along with that is probably not normal, and a dysphoric mental illness. Now I'm fine with people doing that, and living their lives as they see fit - my only issue is don't call me a bigot because my personal belief is that it's mental illness, and don't get upset at me if I don't want to go along with the pretending. Legislating away their freedom to express themselves in certain settings, like schools, for one. Denying them and their families the freedom to choose medical care, for two. Forbidding them to change their name, legally, for three. What you or I think about a trans person, or anyone else, is irrelevant. I may surprise you with some of the thoughts and beliefs I have about trans issues but we should all be against the government dictating how someone can live their life as long as it doesn't harm anyone else. Whether it's "normal" or not. A white man marrying an Asian woman was once considered not normal. Normal appears nowhere in the constitution.
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Post by alienrace on Apr 6, 2023 13:28:35 GMT -5
Denying them and their families the freedom to choose medical care What medical care are they being denied? Forbidding them to change their name, legally, for three. I have seen no actual evidence of that. Not allowing them to put whatever name they want on their drivers license isn't equivalent to what you're saying. |
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Post by pickle20 on Apr 6, 2023 13:34:42 GMT -5
Denying them and their families the freedom to choose medical care What medical care are they being denied? Forbidding them to change their name, legally, for three. I have seen no actual evidence of that. Not allowing them to put whatever name they want on their drivers license isn't equivalent to what you're saying. Gender affirming care.
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Post by augustwest on Apr 6, 2023 13:46:51 GMT -5
So now Nike Women has signed Dylan to promote their new sports bra on social media. Come on, really ......... Bob? |
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Post by Ranger John on Apr 6, 2023 13:52:46 GMT -5
legislating away their freedom and rights What rights have been legislated away? Freedom to use the bathroom of their choice? Interesting...I don't have that freedom. Pretending to be something you're not and expecting everyone else to go along with that is probably not normal, and a dysphoric mental illness. Now I'm fine with people doing that, and living their lives as they see fit - my only issue is don't call me a bigot because my personal belief is that it's mental illness, and don't get upset at me if I don't want to go along with the pretending. This exactly. Most trans people just want to be able to live their lives, and adults should be free to alter their bodies pretty much any way they want. But the mental illness can actually be dangerous. Imagine a circumstance where a trans person has been in an accident and are unconscious. They're taken to the hospital, and the surgeries and treatments have been so effective that their biology doesn't even come close to matching their appearance. Their driver's license says they're male, but they are, in fact, a biological female. And they're pregnant. The ER uses treatments and medications that cause a miscarriage because they wrongly assumed they had a man. The thing is, people need to be CAREFUL - there have been a LOT of unintended and unpleasant consequences of doing these things. And we need to keep the kids away from it. If you're too young for a tattoo, you're too young for a double mastectomy.
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Post by pickle20 on Apr 6, 2023 13:54:06 GMT -5
What rights have been legislated away? Freedom to use the bathroom of their choice? Interesting...I don't have that freedom. Pretending to be something you're not and expecting everyone else to go along with that is probably not normal, and a dysphoric mental illness. Now I'm fine with people doing that, and living their lives as they see fit - my only issue is don't call me a bigot because my personal belief is that it's mental illness, and don't get upset at me if I don't want to go along with the pretending. This exactly. Most trans people just want to be able to live their lives, and adults should be free to alter their bodies pretty much any way they want. But the mental illness can actually be dangerous. Imagine a circumstance where a trans person has been in an accident and are unconscious. They're taken to the hospital, and the surgeries and treatments have been so effective that their biology doesn't even come close to matching their appearance. Their driver's license says they're male, but they are, in fact, a biological female. And they're pregnant. The ER uses treatments and medications that cause a miscarriage because they wrongly assumed they had a man. The thing is, people need to be CAREFUL - there have been a LOT of unintended and unpleasant consequences of doing these things. And we need to keep the kids away from it. If you're too young for a tattoo, you're too young for a double mastectomy. You should write novels with the bullsht you can come up with.
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Post by alienrace on Apr 6, 2023 13:54:59 GMT -5
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Post by pickle20 on Apr 6, 2023 14:00:22 GMT -5
For families who make their own decisions as it relates to healthcare.
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Post by alienrace on Apr 6, 2023 14:04:26 GMT -5
For families who make their own decisions as it relates to healthcare. So that's a hard "no" then.
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Post by pickle20 on Apr 6, 2023 14:53:32 GMT -5
For families who make their own decisions as it relates to healthcare. So that's a hard "no" then. You're the one who mentioned adults. Apparently you don't believe a family (ie, parents) should be able to make decisions concerning their children. Punky Brewster had breast reduction at 16. Under current GQP agenda she'd have to wait until she was 18.
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Post by alienrace on Apr 6, 2023 14:55:48 GMT -5
Punky Brewster had breast reduction at 16. Under current GQP agenda she'd have to wait until she was 18. You're comparing apples to melons  |
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Post by pickle20 on Apr 6, 2023 14:58:34 GMT -5
Punky Brewster had breast reduction at 16. Under current GQP agenda she'd have to wait until she was 18. You're comparing apples to melons Not really but I see what you did there. And that day was a day of sadness for me.
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Post by alienrace on Apr 6, 2023 15:13:23 GMT -5
And that day was a day of sadness for me. Haha me too |
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Post by stevez51 on Apr 6, 2023 17:11:10 GMT -5
I wonder how many people have actually met a trans individual and really knew that they were meeting a trans person. Crocodile Dundee didn't know .........
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Post by stevez51 on Apr 6, 2023 17:30:35 GMT -5
I don't think it's about acknowledging their existence, it's more about accepting it as "normal". So...what is the alternative? Keep ostracizing them, calling them mentally ill, legislating away their freedom and rights, and pretend they don't exist? "Normal" being thrown around a lot lately. What is normal? Are gay people normal? What about people who go to Brony-Con? What about interracial marriages? There's a few countries passing laws that will fine you for misgendering, criticize or protest against transgenders. Canada, Germany & Spain. Normal is not a dude who dresses up like a little girl. But its making him lots of money so expect copy cats.
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Post by stevez51 on Apr 6, 2023 17:32:14 GMT -5
Don't acknowledge their existence, or we will cancel you. I don't think it's about acknowledging their existence, it's more about accepting it as "normal". And you know ignoring them will only make them more angry.
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Post by carllafong on Apr 6, 2023 19:45:17 GMT -5
]Normal is not a dude who dresses up like a little girl. But its making him lots of money so expect copy cats. Is that why he calls himself Kid rock? |
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Post by pickle20 on Apr 7, 2023 6:16:32 GMT -5
So...what is the alternative? Keep ostracizing them, calling them mentally ill, legislating away their freedom and rights, and pretend they don't exist? "Normal" being thrown around a lot lately. What is normal? Are gay people normal? What about people who go to Brony-Con? What about interracial marriages? There's a few countries passing laws that will fine you for misgendering, criticize or protest against transgenders. Canada, Germany & Spain. Normal is not a dude who dresses up like a little girl. But its making him lots of money so expect copy cats. If you try to legislate "normal" don't be surprised when they come for you. That is all I am saying.
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Post by pickle20 on Apr 7, 2023 6:28:22 GMT -5
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Post by augustwest on Apr 7, 2023 7:23:27 GMT -5
legislating away their freedom and rights What rights have been legislated away? Freedom to use the bathroom of their choice? Interesting...I don't have that freedom. Pretending to be something you're not and expecting everyone else to go along with that is probably not normal, and a dysphoric mental illness. |
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Post by msmaggie on Apr 7, 2023 8:44:52 GMT -5
For families who make their own decisions as it relates to healthcare. So that's a hard "no" then. So a 16 yr old and parents want professional counseling as kid struggles with gender confusion. You say "no". Exactly how is this your business? And you say it's a mental illness but would deny therapy? Yikes. |
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Post by alienrace on Apr 7, 2023 8:48:38 GMT -5
So that's a hard "no" then. So a 16 yr old and parents want professional counseling as kid struggles with gender confusion. You say "no". Exactly how is this your business? And you say it's a mental illness but would deny therapy? Yikes. Show me were a 16 year old is denied mental health therapy?
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