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Post by Ranger John on Nov 10, 2023 13:14:13 GMT -5
Wow... now there's some serious victim blaming. Netanyahu is a victim of his own policy of empowering Hamas. No one is criticizing Netanyahu currently more than the Israelis themselves. Not only is he partly responsible for the political and security environment that led up to 10/7, he has rejected opportunities to get the hostages released. CBS News: Netanyahu faces rising anger from within Israel after Hamas attackWhy aren't you calling for the destruction of Hamas as a means to free the hostages? Or at least as a means of preventing this from happening again? Because I live in the real world, not a Hollywood Action movie. Negotiating with Hamas is the best way to get the hostages freed alive. Sorry, but no. Negotiations with terrorist organizations over hostages usually only leads to more hostage taking. That's the real world. Not your fantasy land where Hamas is a reliable peace partner.
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Post by pickle20 on Nov 10, 2023 13:15:11 GMT -5
Netanyahu is a victim of his own policy of empowering Hamas. No one is criticizing Netanyahu currently more than the Israelis themselves. Not only is he partly responsible for the political and security environment that led up to 10/7, he has rejected opportunities to get the hostages released. CBS News: Netanyahu faces rising anger from within Israel after Hamas attackBecause I live in the real world, not a Hollywood Action movie. Negotiating with Hamas is the best way to get the hostages freed alive. Sorry, but no. Negotiations with terrorist organizations over hostages usually only leads to more hostage taking. That's the real world. Not your fantasy land where Hamas is a reliable peace partner. None of those hostages are coming home then.
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Post by soulflower on Nov 10, 2023 14:17:24 GMT -5
Netanyahu is a victim of his own policy of empowering Hamas. No one is criticizing Netanyahu currently more than the Israelis themselves. Not only is he partly responsible for the political and security environment that led up to 10/7, he has rejected opportunities to get the hostages released. CBS News: Netanyahu faces rising anger from within Israel after Hamas attackBecause I live in the real world, not a Hollywood Action movie. Negotiating with Hamas is the best way to get the hostages freed alive. Sorry, but no. Negotiations with terrorist organizations over hostages usually only leads to more hostage taking.
And collective punishment leads to more terrorism. The cycle continues.
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Post by augustwest on Nov 10, 2023 14:59:58 GMT -5
Sorry, but no. Negotiations with terrorist organizations over hostages usually only leads to more hostage taking.
And collective punishment leads to more terrorism. The cycle continues. That’s the right’s goal
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 10, 2023 15:21:03 GMT -5
Sorry, but no. Negotiations with terrorist organizations over hostages usually only leads to more hostage taking.
And collective punishment leads to more terrorism. The cycle continues. Hamas explicitly states that their terrorism is about wiping out Israel and killing Jews. It has never been about "collective punishment." It's about Jew hatred. But hey, don't let that get in the way of trying to run cover for them.
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Post by soulflower on Nov 10, 2023 15:42:02 GMT -5
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Post by WKDWZD on Nov 11, 2023 6:59:13 GMT -5
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Post by soulflower on Nov 11, 2023 10:43:25 GMT -5
This is arguably the biggest social movement in the world since the 2020 George Floyd protests and the biggest anti-war movement since the Iraq war.
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Post by WKDWZD on Nov 11, 2023 11:05:01 GMT -5
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Post by soulflower on Nov 11, 2023 11:37:26 GMT -5
Looks like more than 300,000 honestly
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Post by WKDWZD on Nov 11, 2023 17:20:20 GMT -5
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Post by soulflower on Nov 11, 2023 17:35:44 GMT -5
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Post by summer23 on Nov 11, 2023 18:26:10 GMT -5
Yeah. Looks lovely.
I don't suppose the march could have taken place on another day.
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Post by WKDWZD on Nov 11, 2023 18:39:13 GMT -5
Yeah. Looks lovely. I don't suppose the march could have taken place on another day.Well, if Israel could have postponed their bombing for another day, I'm sure the march could have done likewise. Personally, I can't think of a better day than Armistice Day to hold a peace march.
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Post by summer23 on Nov 11, 2023 18:48:06 GMT -5
Yeah. Looks lovely. I don't suppose the march could have taken place on another day.Well, if Israel could have postponed their bombing for another day, I'm sure the march could have done likewise. Personally, I can't think of a better day than Armistice Day to hold a peace march. Of course.
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Post by JoyinMudville on Nov 11, 2023 19:02:50 GMT -5
I see we're back to just posting random tweets.
Here's a look at some of the thuggery on display during last night's pro-Palestinian call for 'peace'
Again, there's a reason I'll never again be caught dead 'standing with' these groups, regardless of my feelings about the issue
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Post by soulflower on Nov 11, 2023 19:10:37 GMT -5
More random people behaving badly in NYC last night
Would you rather focus on that kind of stuff instead of the mostly peaceful protests that have been happening all over the world?
Be my guest…
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Post by WKDWZD on Nov 11, 2023 19:23:07 GMT -5
More random people behaving badly in NYC last night Would you rather focus on that kind of stuff instead of the mostly peaceful protests that have been happening all over the world? Be my guest… That's all they've got. As I said, their desperation is palpable.
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Post by summer23 on Nov 11, 2023 19:36:25 GMT -5
I see we're back to just posting random tweets. Here's a look at some of the thuggery on display during last night's pro-Palestinian call for 'peace' Again, there's a reason I'll never again be caught dead 'standing with' these groups, regardless of my feelings about the issue Per the moderator - focus on the positive! That would be anything anti-Israel in case you're confused.
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Post by soulflower on Nov 11, 2023 19:39:13 GMT -5
I see we're back to just posting random tweets. Here's a look at some of the thuggery on display during last night's pro-Palestinian call for 'peace' Again, there's a reason I'll never again be caught dead 'standing with' these groups, regardless of my feelings about the issue Per the moderator - focus on the positive! That would be anything anti-Israel in case you're confused. Pro-Israel comments are welcome here! But it’s a discussion forum. Which means, others may disagree with your comments.
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Post by summer23 on Nov 11, 2023 19:43:04 GMT -5
Per the moderator - focus on the positive! That would be anything anti-Israel in case you're confused. Pro-Israel comments are welcome here! But it’s a discussion forum. Which means, others may disagree with your comments. No kidding?? So glad that you edited your post to make that clear.
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Post by soulflower on Nov 11, 2023 19:53:45 GMT -5
Pro-Israel comments are welcome here! But it’s a discussion forum. Which means, others may disagree with your comments. No kidding?? So glad that you edited your post to make that clear. Sometimes I need more than one draft to make my points 🙂
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Post by summer23 on Nov 11, 2023 20:00:00 GMT -5
No kidding?? So glad that you edited your post to make that clear. Sometimes I need more than one draft to make my points 🙂 The fact that you felt the need to claim that "Pro-Israel" comments are welcome says more than you know. But that's okay, soulflower. We get it.
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Post by JoyinMudville on Nov 11, 2023 20:35:59 GMT -5
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Post by soulflower on Nov 11, 2023 21:14:50 GMT -5
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Post by msmaggie on Nov 12, 2023 9:07:44 GMT -5
Bibi really screwing the pooch on this.
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Post by WKDWZD on Nov 12, 2023 18:58:46 GMT -5
More random people behaving badly in NYC last night Would you rather focus on that kind of stuff instead of the mostly peaceful protests that have been happening all over the world? Be my guest… His name is Uzi Rosha, a lawyer and CEO of One-Compliance in the New York City metropolitan area. He also founded Aviv Compliance in 2017. What a nasty piece of work!? Honi soit qui mal y pense
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Post by JoyinMudville on Nov 12, 2023 19:12:07 GMT -5
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Post by soulflower on Nov 13, 2023 7:52:35 GMT -5
American Jews continue to express solidarity with the Palestinians and demand a ceasefire Also, the ADL once again proves themselves to be an extension of the pro-Israel lobby by labeling Jewish Voice for Peace "anti-semitic". If they're expanding the definition of anti-semitism so broadly that it includes Jews who criticize Israel, they are discrediting themselves. American Jews have mobilized several thousand Jews across the U.S. to call for a ceasefire in Gaza. ADL calls these Jewish organizations 'hate groups'After several thousand Jews and their allies marched on the U.S. Capitol on October 18 calling for a ceasefire, ADL DC released a statement equating anti-Zionism with antisemitism. Greenblatt piled on, calling the groups that organized the protest, including Jewish Voice for Peace, “hate groups.”
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Americans can and should protest against or boycott any country they want. No one calls criticism of Iran or Russia "hate speech". Disagreements over politics and war cannot be equated with "hate speech"...
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Post by WKDWZD on Nov 13, 2023 8:23:48 GMT -5
American Jews continue to express solidarity with the Palestinians and demand a ceasefire Also, the ADL once again proves themselves to be an extension of the pro-Israel lobby by labeling Jewish Voice for Peace "anti-semitic". If they're expanding the definition of anti-semitism so broadly that it includes Jews who criticize Israel, they are discrediting themselves. American Jews have mobilized several thousand Jews across the U.S. to call for a ceasefire in Gaza. ADL calls these Jewish organizations 'hate groups'After several thousand Jews and their allies marched on the U.S. Capitol on October 18 calling for a ceasefire, ADL DC released a statement equating anti-Zionism with antisemitism. Greenblatt piled on, calling the groups that organized the protest, including Jewish Voice for Peace, “hate groups.”
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Americans can and should protest against or boycott any country they want. No one calls criticism of Iran or Russia "hate speech". Disagreements over politics and war cannot be equated with "hate speech"... More anti-Semitism machinations of the ADL. Some people don't like it when you draw attention to it.
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